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Old 2001-03-07, 06:45
slpwlkr333 slpwlkr333 is offline
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Default Outline of an ether/thorazine knockout warning plan: please analyze and comment

ok, id like to get a message across to this kid whos ass i can kick but im not in the legal position to do so because of possible reprocussions so i thought up a scheme to embarrass him and have fun with my knowledge while getting my point across well enough to stop fucking with me.
we attend the same school which has a population of only around 90 students. it is set in an old mansion with very acoustic halls so noise travels all too well. this is where the ether plays in. i would like to get the victim into a remote area preferable the bathroom but not let my presence be known and perhaps use my fullback friend who he is not familiar with for this part. he will be minding his own business when all of a sudden from behind him a rag soaked in either ether or chloroform covers both his breathing passages held dangling in the assailants hand while his elbow is bend so his bicep can press over his windpipe while the assailants other arm bends the victims right arm behind his back into a painful chicken wing. once the victim hits the floor the thorazine or thorazine/ativan solution will come into play.
this i need help on. i currently am in possesion of one 50 mg thorazine and several hundred milligrams of ativan which id like to use to induce abnesia, one of its common side effects in high doses. i can obtain more thorazine but it is painstaking and i would actually like to give him just 25 mgs because i estimate his body weight to be at about 120-130 lbs max and i would like to save the other 25 incase i or a friend would ever need it to combat a bad acid trip.
as the victim is temporarly unconcious from the ether or chloroform i would roll up his sleeve revealing his defined veins because hes a really skinny(but pathetically self- confident) guy and inject a solution of thorazine or thorazine/ativan intravenously into his vein or if somehow that was not possible intramuscleurly. getting the syringe is not a problem. i then plan to write something embarrasing on him or something and leave him either out in the open or in a stall and see him in a few days. hopefully he wont remember who did it, if he does i dont really care because my school is increadably lenient.
i am wondering about opinions on mixing the ativan and thorazine and how much to use and what to use a medium since both are HCL's. care to help anyone? anyone like my plan?
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Old 2001-03-08, 05:03
biot biot is offline
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Default Re: Outline of an ether/thorazine knockout warning plan: please analyze and comment

i would just put on a mask and slam his head against the wall from behind while he is pissing at a urinal.
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Old 2001-03-08, 05:17
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i did that to someone a long time ago in 8th grade and got suspended for 3 days. heh.
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Old 2001-03-08, 09:35
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i would use about 100mg of thorazine,i was on it for a while and that should be enough to knock him out for a while,or long enough to do what you needed to do without him knowing,a guy that was in charter with me was giving 600mg and we didn't see him for 4 days but he was a big guy.

your friendly nieghborhood pothead.
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Old 2001-03-08, 23:20
slpwlkr333 slpwlkr333 is offline
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Default Re: Outline of an ether/thorazine knockout warning plan: please analyze and comment

the point is i dont wanna hurt him or rob him or anything. i just wanna make him realize how vunerable he is and i wanna get him real shook up and hes real unstable as it is so if he goes into a spiral depression because of this thats fine with me. im just gonna get his printed on the needle and use gloves to not get mine on it. everyone knows this kid will do anything he can get his hands on.i just gotta get this shit done in like minimal time like 20 secs if possible and executed perfectly
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Old 2001-03-10, 01:39
biot biot is offline
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Default Re: Outline of an ether/thorazine knockout warning plan: please analyze and comment

Slam his head against the wall while he is pissing! He'll piss on himself that will be funny, then thake some pictures, post them around the school.
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Old 2001-03-10, 06:30
heelflipGuy heelflipGuy is offline
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Slip some acid into his drink.
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Old 2001-05-27, 03:34
Lateralus Lateralus is offline
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Default Re: Outline of an ether/thorazine knockout warning plan: please analyze and comment

quote:
Originally posted by stoney665:
i would use about 100mg of thorazine,i was on it for a while and that should be enough to knock him out for a while,or long enough to do what you needed to do without him knowing,a guy that was in charter with me was giving 600mg and we didn't see him for 4 days but he was a big guy.

your friendly nieghborhood pothead.



hmmm i thought thorazine was for people who hullicunated all the time...does it really knock peeps out?
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Old 2001-05-27, 04:03
Frey Grimrod Frey Grimrod is offline
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Ok first question I assume your Thorazine is in a capsul or pill? If so you probably will want to be carefull determining the dosage. Since taking something intravenous versus orally tends to change the dosage. Also as Im sure you know binders are no good to inject but I suppose if your pissed off at this kid enough to do this you wouldnt care about that. I will say that you should be very carefull to use a sterile new needle and be sure to NOT INJECT ANY AIR into his vien. Im sure you knew that already though. Just be carefull sure knocking him out and having him remember shit may be funny shit but killing him definatly would not be worth it.
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Old 2001-05-27, 04:14
Lateralus Lateralus is offline
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if i tried chloroform on someone, would it kill them? oh and wouldn't pepper spray be just effective?

[This message has been edited by Lateralus (edited 05-27-2001).]
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Old 2001-05-27, 07:29
slpwlkr333 slpwlkr333 is offline
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Default Re: Outline of an ether/thorazine knockout warning plan: please analyze and comment

chloroform? no, wouldnt kill them, unless you held it over their mouth for a long long time. I was just looking for a short knockout time- not depleating all the oxygen in his brain out and replacing it completely.

yes, i knew about the binders and air in the solution. thank you though.
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Old 2001-05-27, 08:36
Lateralus Lateralus is offline
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i heard on here that chloroform kills you much faster then no does. I wonder if chloroform is an effective knock out mix. Is ether and chloroform the same?
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Old 2001-05-27, 08:37
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Default Re: Outline of an ether/thorazine knockout warning plan: please analyze and comment

quote:
Originally posted by slpwlkr333:
ok, id like to get a message across to this kid whos ass i can kick but im not in the legal position to do so because of possible reprocussions so i thought up a scheme to embarrass him and have fun with my knowledge while getting my point across well enough to stop fucking with me.
we attend the same school which has a population of only around 90 students. it is set in an old mansion with very acoustic halls so noise travels all too well. this is where the ether plays in. i would like to get the victim into a remote area preferable the bathroom but not let my presence be known and perhaps use my fullback friend who he is not familiar with for this part. he will be minding his own business when all of a sudden from behind him a rag soaked in either ether or chloroform covers both his breathing passages held dangling in the assailants hand while his elbow is bend so his bicep can press over his windpipe while the assailants other arm bends the victims right arm behind his back into a painful chicken wing. once the victim hits the floor the thorazine or thorazine/ativan solution will come into play.
this i need help on. i currently am in possesion of one 50 mg thorazine and several hundred milligrams of ativan which id like to use to induce abnesia, one of its common side effects in high doses. i can obtain more thorazine but it is painstaking and i would actually like to give him just 25 mgs because i estimate his body weight to be at about 120-130 lbs max and i would like to save the other 25 incase i or a friend would ever need it to combat a bad acid trip.
as the victim is temporarly unconcious from the ether or chloroform i would roll up his sleeve revealing his defined veins because hes a really skinny(but pathetically self- confident) guy and inject a solution of thorazine or thorazine/ativan intravenously into his vein or if somehow that was not possible intramuscleurly. getting the syringe is not a problem. i then plan to write something embarrasing on him or something and leave him either out in the open or in a stall and see him in a few days. hopefully he wont remember who did it, if he does i dont really care because my school is increadably lenient.
i am wondering about opinions on mixing the ativan and thorazine and how much to use and what to use a medium since both are HCL's. care to help anyone? anyone like my plan?



The ether or chloroform sounds like a great idea, I think if he is found passed out by the bathroom, he will be so embarassed that he'll have to concentrate his efforts in defending himself against the school instead of engaging in daily combat with you. You'll be in the trump position because you know more about him that he didn't choose to give you (From victim POV)

If you inject it into his muscle, that whole region will be sore when he awakens then he'll go to the doctors and run blood tests, etc find out what was injected, blah, blah, blah... And even if he does have easy to spot veins, that whole manuever is too tell tale, I wouldn't do it.

Passing out if fun enough, just do something funny, not to serious, he might try to feed off the sympathy if it's too serious
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Old 2001-05-28, 18:18
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Isn't the internet full of sites (attrition.org ie)teaching you how to get even with someone. IMHO you may use more force than necessary, how about sliding some pot in his bag then turning him to the police or the headmaster. Roofies have no color nor taste in a drink, put a couple he'd fall asleep in 15/20 minutes for 8/10 ours, roofies have a strong amnesia side as well, while asleep, write whatever u want on his forehead, or I don't know you coould crazy glue his fly while it's down, his shoes, or just crazy glue a toilet seat, manage so the other ones are occupied, heard it's very unpleasant.
One more thing: Don't fuck your career for a prick, you sound to me like a talented chemist, you're very likely to get kicked off your school using your "knowledge" to get "even", then you'd end up synthetising meth in a trailer...
Last solution: try to unterstand WHY is this kid annoying you, u know our ennemies teach us a lot about us, our weaknesses, hence we can improve ourselves, remenber:stessed people die earlier of you name it:cancer, anevrism breakup, heart attack, so try to analyse what in this kid is making you mad, if the guy is like 2 head taller than you, well learn Karate, or psychology, he might need your help one day'cause ure smarter.
But I frankly do think that you should not touch his physical integrity, especially after having talked about it here...

"Relax, have a cigar! Hell is full of high court judges..." Sting
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Old 2001-06-25, 05:20
Lateralus Lateralus is offline
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Default Re: Outline of an ether/thorazine knockout warning plan: please analyze and comment

were is the things to get back at someone on attrition.org? also i got some info on some newsgroups and they say chloroform is a bad idea to knock someone out. but would any of you think ether might be better?
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Old 2001-06-25, 23:23
Dali Dali is offline
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Sleezewalker:"id like to get a message across to this kid whos ass i can kick but im not in the legal position to do so because of possible reprocussions"

Oh, Sleeze will your stand-up comedy tour ever end? Suuure you can kick his ass.

Listen girlfriend, nobody picks on someone who can kick there ass. If someone smaller than I mouthed off to me, I would simply give them a nod of disaproval and a stare of death. They would inherently know not to fuck around after that. The fact that you have to resort to such measures screams that this kid could kick your ass to kingdom come.
What's really sad is that he's only 130lbs.
Which tells me that you are a complete pansy.
Lay off the meth dude and start eating spinich. Maybe practice boxing with Richard Simmons or Gary Coleman (use headgear though). Next year when you guys are in the 5th grade he'll be less likely to pick on you.

[This message has been edited by Dali (edited 06-25-2001).]
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Old 2001-06-26, 06:44
slpwlkr333 slpwlkr333 is offline
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whats this?
another lame flame?
dont pretend you know me
yall just failed the name game
under 130?
clean your ass up dirty
unfortuneately you dont come to chat
come there n ill have your ass lookin dumb you'll be spinnin cirlces in your cum- stained computer chair and clickin out IRC
yea most those people know what i look like
they know i'm not some small school tike
shit i met sumblier on this board
ya getting laughed at by all the other totse registries, sux losin another fight.
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Old 2001-06-26, 06:45
dankgirl420 dankgirl420 is offline
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If I remember dali...you're the crystal smoker. maybe you should "lay off and eat some spinach"...
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Old 2001-06-26, 08:16
slpwlkr333 slpwlkr333 is offline
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LoL. Something to the effect of what dali said-

"I come from the meth capital of the U.S.(since the US leads in meth production doesnt that mean of the world?), a small town not on the map, and ive been smoking methedrine, which is a methamphetamine hcl(hydrochloride salt, i dont think he knows that) presciption medication that they stopped making before i was in dipers. God i love my crystal methedrine" -got that from East Coast Pariah when he was high so it might not be entirely accurate

Well, this is what happens when you are a newbie and get the prestige' of the &totse BLTC pissed. Oh, btw, dank knows what i look like there guy. It ain't meek either there powderpuff. **blows dali a kiss with salvia splendens smoke**
 
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