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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, making beer, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2000-10-12, 18:34
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MIEN KAMPF 
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PILLS AND EXTRACT
ok i need to know the best pills and the easyest extract method im a frist timer so be easy please thanks
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#2
 2000-10-12, 19:24
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Mister_Clean 
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Re: PILLS AND EXTRACT
best pills........ hmm any pills containing psuedo would work fine.. there are millions of ways to clean them this is only one that i will share.. materials distilled h2o strainer pills methanol gatorade or other simillar bottles funnel filter paper of a few coffee filters put together
Ok put your pills in the strainer and add some CRUSHED ICE made with DISTILLED water. shake this up t remove as much of the red as possible. Then remove your pills from the strainer and let them dry. Now place them in a coffee grinder or grind them yourself into a almost powder. put theese pills in a gataorade or simillar container add some methanol shake it up.. let it settle for about 4-6 hours shaking randomly. Now filter this solution pour it slowly as all them nasty fillers will clog your filter.. KEEP the methanol NOT the shit in yor filter.. the pfed is now dissolved in your methanol. now evaporate this. you can use a stove but make sure you have some *visionware* shit to heat it in. DONT BOIL IT.. heat it slowly a;sp have a fan blowing over the top of the bowl to dispurse the flammable fumes and speed up evap time... Ok when this evaporates there will be a layer of pfed on the bottom let this dry and scrape it up.. dissolve that in distilled h2o and shake it up! place it in the freezer for about 4 hours and you will again see another layer of shit at the bottom. filter keeping the water and discarding the shit. evap the water and you now have psuedoephedrine.. you can test it if ya want.. put the tip of your finger in the ater and taste,, if it is Bitter as all hell you did it... again evap SLOWLY if the water is boiling it is way way way too HOT. keep it at almost the lowest setting possible..
This method may seem hard but it is very easy.. can be completed in 1 day with no problems.
Clean.
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#3
 2000-10-12, 20:48
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acidmelt 
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Re: PILLS AND EXTRACT
i don't feel like posting my extraction method but i will give you a tip on the best pills. The best pills would be white(no red coating), without a wax coating, and make sure that they are 60mg pills. you can find these exact pills at a store that no doubt is in your town, for as low as $3 per 100. I wont tell you teh source but think CHEAP, im talkin REAL cheap.
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#4
 2000-10-12, 23:30
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Mister_Clean 
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Re: PILLS AND EXTRACT
share the aource.. dont hold back.. I have looked everywhere from gas stations to walgreens and found nothing like what you mention.. Please share.. you can e-mail me if ya dont want to post it mister_clean@privacyx.com SHARE  Clean.
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#5
 2000-10-16, 14:30
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slimshady 
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Re: PILLS AND EXTRACT
Hmm, pill extraction...
Well, as anyone who as actually even seen a "pill" should know, starting with a water extraction has been an outdated technique for several years now. If anyone cares to hear it, I will expound on the many reasons why this is so, but for know.... AN ACTUAL PILL EXTRACTION TECHNIQUE THAT IS NOT BULLSHIT.
If your pills have a red coating, it may be left on, I prefer to remove by this method: take a canning jar, punch several small holes in the lid with an icepick or whatever. dump in the pills along with 1 or two icecubes. Invert and shake. then add about 20-30ml acetone. shake the piss out of it while inverting (better do this over a bucket or something, that red dye will stain everything). repeat the acetone step2-3 times, then dump the pills onto a paper towel to blot dry. You will never get the red 100% out this way, but dont worry.
Now take the pills and add about 10ml of methanol per gram of pseudo. ( you can crush if you want, but most brands will dissolve rapidly). let the pills dissolve for 30 min. place the methanol/pills in the freezer and let sit for about 1 hour.
after 1 hour you will see all the pill gunk has settled to the bottom. CAREFULLY pour the methanol off the top into a filter (coffee filters are OK, I use a sand filter which is better). Do not try to get ALL of it, as you dont want ANY of the solids.
repeat the cold soak with another volume of methanol, about 7ml per g this time. Do a total of 3 pulls. on the third pull, after youve poured of the methanol and it's gone through the filter, then pour the sludge into the filter. some liquid will drain off this as well.
Allow the methanol to evap. do NOT hurry this along on a burner, a hair dryer is much safer and more effective.
When the methanol is evaporated you will have some goopy looking pseudo. Take this goop, and boil it in toluene, (if you cant get tol, use naptha). be sure and break up the clumps so the tol has a chance to get in and dissolve some crap.
repeat the tol wash 3 times. Save the tol in a separate comtainer (theres nothing good in it but it can be reused after cleaning)
now add some cold anhydrous acetone to the pseudo. Be sure once again to break up any clumps. Repeat this 3 times. (the crap goes into the acetone)
Now you have PRETTY clean pseudo. To clean further you can perform an A/B extraction, but if youve followed my instructions dilligently, this will not usually be necessary.
Slim.
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#6
 2000-10-16, 15:00
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slimshady 
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Re: PILLS AND EXTRACT
Now, lets examine a different method, step by step....
"best pills........ hmm any pills containing psuedo would work fine.. there are millions of ways to clean them this is only one that i will share..
Well, actually, any pills containing pseudo or ephedrine will work. However you should avoid: pills with acetaminophen, pills with caffeine, and pills with guaifenesin (tricky stuff).
materials distilled h2o strainer pills methanol gatorade or other simillar bottles funnel filter paper of a few coffee filters put together
Or you could read mister cleans post on sand filters at the hive, or perhaps any of his several posts advising against using water for pill extraction. He's said it himself well over 100 times.
Ok put your pills in the strainer and add some CRUSHED ICE made with DISTILLED water.
Any ice that you buy will be made from distilled water. Ask mrclean. He knows why this is.
shake this up t remove as much of the red as possible.
now after this step, the ice has melted carrying equal amounts of dye and pseudo down your drainpipe...
Then remove your pills from the strainer and let them dry.
why would you want to do that? Sounds like a waste of time to me. the acetone I advised will remove the water almost immediately.
Now place them in a coffee grinder or grind them yourself into a almost powder.
good idea, now you have a fucked up coffee grinder... you coulda spent that money on a sep funnel.
put theese pills in a gataorade or simillar container add some methanol shake it up..
which, if you hadnt ground up, would have dissolved anyway in the methanol....
let it settle for about 4-6 hours shaking randomly.
which makes little sense. in the freezer they settle in 20 minutes along with any wax. At room temp you will get all kinds of crapola.
Now filter this solution pour it slowly as all them nasty fillers will clog your filter.. KEEP the methanol NOT the shit in yor filter.. the pfed is now dissolved in your methanol. now evaporate this. you can use a stove
Unless its a gas stove, in which you could use an ambulance. A hairdryer is FASTER and SAFER.
but make sure you have some *visionware* shit to heat it in. DONT BOIL IT..
Why the hell not, if your dumb enough to put it on the stove...
heat it slowly a;sp have a fan blowing over the top of the bowl to dispurse the flammable fumes and speed up evap time... Ok when this evaporates there will be a layer of pfed on the bottom let this dry and scrape it up..
Dont forget to put out the flaming kitchen...
dissolve that in distilled h2o and shake it up! place it in the freezer for about 4 hours and you will again see another layer of shit at the bottom.
a layer at the bottom.... hmmmm ICE??
filter keeping the water and discarding the shit.
How the fuck do you filter a block of ice? Wait, I know!!! You didnt close the freezer door, so after four hours you DONT have a fucking block of ice.
evap the water and you now have psuedoephedrine..
Which you had when you started. You also have microcrystalline cellulose, povidone, methoxycellulose, and all sorts of crap waiting to fuck up your reaction. You did nothing to remove the real shit they put in those pills.
you can test it if ya want.. put the tip of your finger in the ater and taste,, if it is Bitter as all hell you did it... again evap SLOWLY if the water is boiling it is way way way too HOT. keep it at almost the lowest setting possible..
And say byebye to some of that pseudo you worked so hard for. Misterclean knows better than that..
This method may seem hard but it is very easy.. can be completed in 1 day with no problems.
really? yes, a 14 hour day. then you gotta clean up, dispatch the evidence, and the next day you gotta go back and get the other half of the pseudo you missed.
Slim.
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