I need to make some meth and some people are assholes just cause i posted the same message twice. It was an accident i fucked up sorry. But on the for real i really need to know where to find "lye". I want to know if i can use Crystal Drano or not and what name brand product i can use if any and also where can i find and buy the shit. Sorry if i offended anyone. Please help me. I would really appreaciate it.

I dont know why i am going to help you espically after you called me an asshole... Now Listen to me very carefully... YOU CANNOT MAKE REAL METH FROM VICKS.. you can make l-meth you want d-meth. l-meth is just like eatin some ephedrine.. or any pills containing ephedrine. Dont waste your time. If you want meth do it right, dont risk getting arrested for making something the wrong way. and dont think for one second that if you go into a store and buy a shit load of vicks they wont question it.
here i will make it easy for you goto http://www.ketamine.net/crystal/pushpull.html
read that and follow it. You can get the red phosphorus by scraping the strikers of matchbooks. just cut the strikers off soak them in acetone (or nail polish remover) and the striker pad comes right off. then filter the acetone through 4 coffee filters put together. now let this dry and follow the push/pull method. Now are you happy.. no one will answer that question because its a waste of time. You are definately lucky that you got the info i gave you. Noww.... Let the Flaming begin!

Stupid people should not make meth (concider that your warning) Remember the dea watches for meth makers everywhere... You have been warned...

Clean.

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Theoretically there is a better way to make that perticular compound from ephedrine that requires no phosphorus or iodine.

At least that's what I heard from the Village Idiot.

Do share do share.. are you talking about the birch reduction? uses Li and ammonia?? ahhhh and you plan to get this ANHYDROUS ammonia from where?? ahh yes do tell do tell.... as i am interesteed in this.. Also a p/p reduction with RP/I2 is much much much easier than a birch.. espically for a first timer.!

Clean.

Mister clean do you know how to make or prapare any other drugs?

Lots... the internet is the biggest source on information ever.. Just ask.. i am sure i can find what you need.


Clean.

Still waiting for your birch writeup Dyler.... Well since i dont think he is going to even post it i will iif anyone wants me to. Just a few words of caution. Annhydrous Ammonia can be deadly... dont attempt it unless you have a industrial fume hood. or a giant field with no one living around you. Still want to try it? let me know and i will post the synth.

Clean..

I prefer to use birch as a fire wood.

Actually, I was referring to the low pressure hydrogenolysis of perchloric esters in acetic acid using a palladium catalyst.



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I am young and you know that and I am new to the whole drug world so any drugs that you think are makeable easily and are good for a beginner to use please post a link to the site.

As well please post any good drug information sites. similar to www.hyperreal.org or www.erowid.org

I still prefer the Iodoephedrine route. Means you don't have to spend time at the metal dealer asking for wierd things... (Which is tricky in the UK...)

Most people here are teenagers and people in thier early 20's.. do you really think they can afford palladium??

Clean..

Absolutely!

I'm sure if they think real hard they can easily find a place to salvage an extruded ceramic honeycomb structure of a refractory material such as cordierite or mullite, Formed metallic foil monolithic structures are also commonly used. This monolithic structure is wash coated with a thin layer of a catalyst carrier such as alumina or zirconium oxide of very high surface area. The high surface area carrier is usually impregnated uniformly throughout with a noble metal mixture such as platinum, palladium, rhodium.

BLAH-BLAH-BLAH

Silly Rabbit synthesis isn't for kids!

What are you suggesting with your BLAH-BLAH-BLAH?

Pure hydrogen can easily be produce from water and already prepared high efficiency noble metal catalysts are everywhere!

According to Hartung and Simonoff in chapter 5 of "Organic Reactions"
the article is entitled "Hydrogenolysis of Benzyl Groups Attached to
Oxygen, Nitrogen, or Sulfur", pp 263-326; "Hydrogenolysis of Benzyl
Groups",
"The hydrochlorides of arylalpha-aminoalkyl ketones are reduced only to
the amino alcohol when paladium catalyst is employed; however, if the amino
ketone or the amino alcohol is hydrogenated in acetic acid at 80-90 C with
palladium on barium sulfate in the presence of perchloric acid, excellent
yields of the desoxy compound are obtained. It is suggested that in the
presence of perchloric acid the reduction proceeds through the acetic acid
ester of the amino alcohol." They reference Rosenmund and Karg, Ber.,
(Berichte Chemische), v 75, p 1850, 1942.



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