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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, making beer, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2000-07-26, 13:37
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Dev 
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kava and XTC
Hey people,
Has anyone one ever tried YOHIMBE [heard it was herbal XTC]? Or KAVA KAVA? If so please let me know your expereinces.
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#2
 2000-08-03, 08:54
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Re: kava and XTC
Yohimbe contains yohimbine. It is a stimulant aphordisiac. There is reason believe that yohimbe is a MAOI. Kava contains kavaloactones. Kava is an intoxican/relaxant. Ecstasy contains MDMA (sometimes other chems such as heroin or coke), it is an amphetamine/phenethelamine.
Anyway neither of those is anything like ecstasy.
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#3
 2000-08-03, 17:06
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neur0t0xicity 
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Re: kava and XTC
XTC doesnt contain heroin fool! you are not the first to think that though...
check ou this link, it contains a comment and an answer about heroin in x http://www.ecstasy.org/qanda/q2.html
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#4
 2000-08-03, 17:09
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neur0t0xicity 
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Re: kava and XTC
and no pill maker would add coke to his pills. (unles he doent care about money and profit)
You know how much pills cost to make with no coke? well, not much... if you add coke, the price would go up like hell though!
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#5
 2000-08-03, 19:13
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Re: kava and XTC
Sorry but I've seen it with my own eyes. Wasn't pill form, it was powder. Other people have also told me about this and it was also powder. I'm sure the person making the mdma wouldn't want to cut it with something like that.
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#6
 2000-08-03, 19:47
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Re: kava and XTC
otherside,....
XTC and heroin togther? You make me laugh boy, you people are taking myths too seriously. why don't you go and check out any pharm chem book, do yourself a favor. There is no additive in this world that will be able to contain both MDMA and heroin in a solid pill form together for longer than a couple days, second, good point, it's too expensive to make, third, why sell both, when you can sell them separately, therefore, higher profit. You think that drug dealer is looking out for your high? They don't give a shit about you or your mother, they want money, so nobody will spend incredible amounts to figure out additives needed to contain both drugs in solid form. This is literaly insane, does anybody else care to tell me why people are not curious enough about what they take?
You think coke goes with mdma? I can't help it but call you an uneducated little retard. Do your homework first, then claim the land, this is not a 6 lane highway you're threading on, my friend. Watch your step.
[This message has been edited by sckbch (edited 08-03-2000).]
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#7
 2000-08-03, 20:03
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Re: kava and XTC
damn dude your a prick(anyone ever tell you that) the boy and girl thing everyone has heard ive never rolled myself,but i wouldnt think you would put coke with amphetamine. just wanted to say that dudes a prick.. 4:20 anyone?
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#8
 2000-08-04, 01:37
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Re: kava and XTC
I don't undedrstand what 4:20 means. I'm stoned now. What it mean?
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#9
 2000-08-04, 15:21
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sckbch 
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Re: kava and XTC
As far as I know that's the popular time to get high, 4 hours and twenty minutes, that's when Amerikans break out their weed and smoke away with one-hitters. I am still at work though. Sometimes. I think.
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#10
 2000-08-06, 05:16
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Re: kava and XTC
Yeah, I agree, from what I know, MDMA and coke wouldn't exactly mix too good together...
Of course, being a nonparticipant in all such matters, I'm hardly an expert..
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#11
 2000-08-06, 14:34
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Re: kava and XTC
TheOtherSide, what have you seen with your own eyes? a white powder that people said contained herion/coke with mdma? well how do you know it really contained thos chems? did you test it? or did people just say it did, or did some of your friends thenselfs just mix coke with mdma... Other people have also told you about this? really, well my friend, thats what i call "rumours" 
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#12
 2000-08-07, 01:03
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Re: kava and XTC
if you truly believed the coke/heroine was mixed in with the xtc then you could gett tha shit ripped off of you, depending on your understanding of the concept of having mdma mixed with coke/heroine, and the results that would follow.
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#13
 2000-10-06, 19:57
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Re: kava and XTC
I have heard that X came in two forms 'speed-base' and 'heroin-base'. Although I am no expert I have noticed that the x that was passed off as heroin based had a more relaxed trip, whereas on the speed based you couldn't stay still (even if you wanted to). But like I said I am not an expert on what is in it only on how it makes me feel. I don't see why cutting your x with either meth or herion would hurt your profit. Herion is cheep compared to x and a little bit of good meth goes a long way. So it would seem that if you cut a tab of x with a drug half the cost you would be increasing your profit...
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#14
 2000-10-06, 20:59
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Re: kava and XTC
otherside- the resposes you got are the reasons Im thinking about leaving this board. Heaven forbid these people ever get some E thats been cut (wich IS what fucked up dealers do because they think its funny). Theyll just be laying there dieing cause theyre OD'ing on horse CONVINCED that E is never cut with anything- its sad 
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#15
 2000-10-07, 16:27
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dj 
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Re: kava and XTC
OK well now as far as cutting 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine with herion nope not going to happen there ph ballence is to far apart from each other mix the two and you cahange the composition of the two wich leaves you with squat for mdma but herion thats still close enough to be active the only way to mix the two and keep them fresh and separate would be to suspend the e in its own base such as a time releas chain. Coke also has the same delima. Now as far as it being cut with methamphetamine well duh look at its chemical name its a methamphetamine base compound. So in ending if you got a pill that had coke or heroin in it , it wasnt e to begin with, and as far as the diffrent highs asssociated with e ...lets all remember all the diffrent analogs that can be made and they all have there own properties....mdma,mda,mdbe,mmda plus all the other chains that have e like efects go do some reading.....Go search the hive at lysaeum archives 
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