Good day fellas (and lesbians I suppose)!
May I ask what you think is better and why: a girly little prissy girl or one who isn't afraid to get her hands dirty and is kinda tomboyish?

To treat as an object a prissy girl.

To actually enjoy having a relationship with a tomboy.

Clearly a bit of both. A girl who can look cute and girly girl as you put it. But also will be tomboyish at other times.

Tomboy, definitely. They're generally more real, more true to themselves, more confident, and girls who don't like to do anything active normally bore the shit out of me. Real quiet, demure types turn me off... grow a spine already.

all but 1 of all the black girls i have gone out with were tomboys. I dont really like them, so that is why i got out with mexican and white girls(and phillipeno).

of course everyman wants the tomboy personality with the prissy bitche's looks all rolled into one package. if i have to choose i pick the middle ground because lets face it, except for a select few all the hardcore tomboys also look like boys.

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Originally posted by syphon detonator:
except for a select few all the hardcore tomboys also look like boys.

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This is very true

yeah i think everyone would want a combination but its more of a which side do you like more.

I'd have to go tomboy too.

My experience as a girl is that guys like both......and especially both at the SAME TIME in the SAME GIRL. I can catch all the guys attention and preferences when I do a mostly guy's sport (my skateboarding), and while doing it wear hot, feminine clothes (Gallaz stuff- short shorts, or cargo pants with tank top, and of course knee pads and Vans shoes). When I get on my board (with blue risers for night riding) and do a kick-flip on a fly box, or a 50-50 truck slide on a grind box or do a pipe, both the guys who like feminine girls and the guys who like what you call "tom-boys", are looking with hungry eyes. Works for me!!(ha ha). Love, Venus.

Mmmmm jsut thinking about it.... I say, if it was a scale, more towards the girly girl side, even so she should have a personality and have her own mind. I just want an interesting girl, perhaps one of those hot gamer girls out there, I know they exist

Falcon the number of hot gaming girls would be close to 100 at best.

Not just in US btw.

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Originally posted by CallMeBob:
Falcon the number of hot gaming girls would be close to 100 at best.

Not just in US btw.

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Well shit, I feel all proud then. Assuming you include all consoles and PC games, I know at least 5% of the hot gamer girls on the planet. That's pretty impressive for one person.

to pick up a tombo is different to picking up a girly girl, or atleast for me it is, i personally find girl girls better because i know how get them but i'm screwed when it comes to tomboys...

tomboys scare the shit out of me every once in a while. sometimes its hard to tell the diference between a tomboy and just a normal boy. but ...yeh...a mixture of the two would be nice. a pretty skater girl.

I like girls that can take care of themselves and aren't going to fall to peices on me. I like 'em a little tough, and a little rough.

Both are extremes. But I definitly go more for the tomboy type girls, as long as they're good looking. But what really gets me is a girl who looks feminine but doesn't really act it. I guess what I like is the type of girl that looks girly, but isn't afraid to get in a serious fight with someone bigger than her, and doesn't act all scared of everything.

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Originally posted by CallMeBob:
Falcon the number of hot gaming girls would be close to 100 at best.

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That just makes the chase more fun! but seriously, there are plenty of hot girl gamers out there and they don't all flock to girly games like everquest. Some play the very same FPS that you enjoy. It may be only a small percentage, but hey: They're out there!

I don't like fps games.. prefer THPS and that kind of stuff

The current Asian cutesy kitsch thing shits me no end.

Tomboy, so long as she looks like a female.

A girl who doesnt complain about every little thing and isnt afraid of insects, gardner snakes or mice.

Any one seen a woman jump on a chair and screams when she sees a daddy long legs knows what I mean.

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Originally posted by bribble13:
to pick up a tombo is different to picking up a girly girl, or atleast for me it is, i personally find girl girls better because i know how get them but i'm [b]screwed when it comes to tomboys...[/B]

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A tomboy would be different in your case. If a tomboy liked you, she would be hitting on you instead of waiting like the girly girls.

speaking of girly girls, what do you think about those j-lo sweatsuits, totally gross or just 'girly'?

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Originally posted by gombowlzombie:
A tomboy would be different in your case. If a tomboy liked you, she would be hitting on you instead of waiting like the girly girls.

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that's why i'm screwed, because i can't pick them up. they defy the hell out of me.

If I could find a woman who liked politics, guns, fast cars, and getting wasted, my faith in women would be restored.

Tomboy. Hands down. A girl who can fix an internal combustion engine and klunk somebody on the head with a wrench for pissing her off would turn me on more than the Victoria's Secret fashion show.

I like the ones that are in between or just a little on one side or the other. The extremely preppy high-pitched "Oh-my-God-I-broke-a-nail" bitches make me want to rip my own fingernails off and some of the extremely dikey chicks make me want to watch them pee just to make sure they're not hiding a dick (not that I'd mind, but it's nice to know for sure what gender people are sometimes).

verily, dont want any "Oh im just a helpless girl" shit. They have to be able to defend themselves at least a little.

Check this out i used to be a mechanic and i have a chevy s-10 with a small block 350 NOT street legal but when i let my hair down for a night of partying you would never believe it execpt if we get into an argument over cars, hunting,mud riding or any outdoor event Tomboys are in!!!!!!

Okie Dokie so your a geezer then.

I agree with you to an extent... So called girly girls and tomboys mostly exist in movies... Anyone who fits these descriptions in reality is just being pretentious... The girl you may think prissy because she doesn't want to stain her dress may be a hard ass in the Army... Who knows...People can be complex...

I was just annoyed at all these post that said "tomboy, hands down!"... I don't get how not being feminine equates being attractive to a hetero male... Something about that seems insincere and false... Like these guys are going out of their way to sound sensitive and accepting to girls who want to be boys...

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Originally posted by NGNeer:
Aspera, while your opinions may be perfectly valid, your personal experience does not comprise the sum total of all possible events on Earth. There are types of people that exist regardless of your belief or disbelief in them, and the mechanically inclined human female happens to be one of them.

Can we keep an open mind here, please?

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Originally posted by Aspera:
People can be complex...

I was just annoyed at all these post that said "tomboy, hands down!"... I don't get how not being feminine equates being attractive to a hetero male

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Could be because people are complex.

If you can open your mind to the idea that someone can find non-physical qualities in a girl attractive or sexy, this isn't a tough concept to grasp. I find the generally accepted idea of feminine boring as hell, so an intelligent girl who's just like "fuck that" will probably be interesting to me. I find myself drawn to girls who are physically active, and to girls who are fearless- does this help explain what I was saying about one who snowboards well getting my attention?

A girl can do all this and not cease being female, which is what you're more or less suggesting is the case. The idea that a girl who doesn't put effort into looking good is being un-feminine is patently ridiculous. She's just choosing not to wear makeup or great clothes or whatever.

You mentioned the "prissy" girl who doesn't want to mess up her dress being a hard-ass in the Army, so you're perfectly open-minded about that possibility... now why can't that girl simply not care about wearing that dress and prefer comfy jeans and a t-shirt or sweatshirt without being thought of as trying to be a guy? It's the same girl, same thoughts, same beliefs, just dressed differently.

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Not complex at all... Just guys pretty much saying look-at-me-I-likes-tomboys-there-for-I-must-be-socially-advanced-somehow-because-I-reject-the-mainstream-please-fuck-me... Nothing wrong with that... It just irks me is all...

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Originally posted by Spiffy McBang:
Could be because people are complex.

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Bah, you weren't supposed to be sitting there. Read the edit.

So you're saying a woman who snowboards or participates in athletics cannot be feminine? Then you haven't seen many girls' lacrosse games...

A girl can wear whatever the hell she wants and still be feminine... Just because a girl wears baggy clothing and is physically active does not make her a tomboy... Ive seen dominatrix's wear friggin strap-ons and still look pretty damn femme... Its the way a woman carries herself not just the appearance...

hehe Would it turn you off if underneath the snowboard pants and coat your dreamgirl was wearing prissy Victoria secret underwear? I highly doubt it...

If people are attracted to women who want to be men that is fine...

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Originally posted by Spiffy McBang:
Could be because people are complex.

If you can open your mind to the idea that someone can find non-physical qualities in a girl attractive or sexy, this isn't a tough concept to grasp. I find the generally accepted idea of feminine boring as hell, so an intelligent girl who's just like "fuck that" will probably be interesting to me. I find myself drawn to girls who are physically active, and to girls who are fearless- does this help explain what I was saying about one who snowboards well getting my attention?

A girl can do all this and not cease being female, which is what you're more or less suggesting is the case. The idea that a girl who doesn't put effort into looking good is being un-feminine is patently ridiculous. She's just choosing not to wear makeup or great clothes or whatever.

You mentioned the "prissy" girl who doesn't want to mess up her dress being a hard-ass in the Army, so you're perfectly open-minded about that possibility... now why can't that girl simply not care about wearing that dress and prefer comfy jeans and a t-shirt or sweatshirt without being thought of as trying to be a guy? It's the same girl, same thoughts, same beliefs, just dressed differently.

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I think a big problem with this thread is that people are defining Tomboy all wrong. A manly chick is one who dresses like a guy, first of all. Not guy accessories like a backwards hat but still has some tight lil shirt on and some overalls number while she bends over to fix a car- thats not a tomboy. Tomboys are the ones that can knock you over when you play football, like to belch and blow snot rockets onto the ground, and tend look ugly and mannish.

And a woman should care about what she looks like; anyone saying otherwise is lying or stupid. If a woman just rolls out of bed in the morning with a greast knotted lump of hair, throws on some coffee stained hooded sweatshirt and cargo pants and hangs out with the guys, I dont see how that could be attractive. That doesnt mean that a pain in the ass who wont leave the house without two hours of preparation is very desirable either though.

Why is it acceptable for men not to care what they look like then?..

I've seen guys missing teeth, covered in grime with clothes that haven't seen the inside of a washer for months come into where I work and start hitting on hot girls, without any expectation that their appearance will turn off those girls..

Seems to be acceptable to be like that, at least on some levels, which is just mindblowing to me.

Any girl that will bend over take it in the ass and yell "CAPTAIN MORGAN RULES!" is allright with me. I think it would take a girly girl to do that just because you can yell at them until they cry and once they cry there yours for the assing.

Since it's definitely looking like a difference in definitions...

Dictionary.com: Tomboy.

"A girl considered boyish or masculine in behavior or manner."

I guess it depends on how far you want to go with that. I've met lots of girls who are or were into sports, willing to play with the guys in several cases, or otherwise do "guy" stuff (one can fix a car better than I'll ever dream). Several (not all) could really give a fuck about looking good beyond bathing and wearing clean clothes, outside of special occasions. Basically, they favor the stereotypical guy stuff over the stereotypical girl stuff, although they do some of both. Many have been called tomboys at one time or another, and by that definition, you could rightfully use the term with them.

Or, you could not. If you're more inclined to reserve the word only for someone who acts like a boy to such an extent that they don't do anything that could be remotely considered feminine, then none of the girls I've met would likely fit your idea of a tomboy.. yet, by definition, you'd be right too. It's all a matter of degree.

BTW, this: "So you're saying a woman who snowboards or participates in athletics cannot be feminine?" is exactly the opposite of what I was saying. This: "A girl can wear whatever the hell she wants and still be feminine..." is exactly what I was saying.

So glad we agree now.

Guys should care about how they present themselves too Wintermute. People that look scuzzy or confused are stupid across the board.

Thats what I have been trying to say but was too loaded to articulate. thanks

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Originally posted by Spirit of '22:
I think a big problem with this thread is that people are defining Tomboy all wrong. A manly chick is one who dresses like a guy, first of all. Not guy accessories like a backwards hat but still has some tight lil shirt on and some overalls number while she bends over to fix a car- thats not a tomboy. Tomboys are the ones that can knock you over when you play football, like to belch and blow snot rockets onto the ground, and tend look ugly and mannish.

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Next time, please make your point BEFORE you get loaded. It'll help save time and effort, as well as prevent round-robin type arguements that never really reach a conclusion.

And as for the comment about those guys who accept females for engaging in stereotypical male behaviour just to say they're politically correct and open minded and the like... well, nobody can ever really understand another person's mind. We can all make guesses about what somebody thinks, but we can never be one hundred percent certain. Hence, Aspera, you have a theory, but not many ways to conclusively prove that it's correct on most, let alone all, cases. Perhaps it works for some males, I honestly don't know.

All I do know is that I find women who are smart, mechanically inclined, and able to hold their own in physical combat attractive. I know not the ultimate reason why. Which is okay, because why would I need to explain why I like something in particular to anybody?

Tomboys. Girly girls wanna be fuck meat so let em. I fucking hate girls sometimes especially good lookin snobs. Waste of meat

i would like a girly girl,but shes gotta be able to do something,not just act all helpless and get YOU into fights.And another thing i was wondering,how can preppy guys go out with preppy girls when the guys are gay?I mean have you ever looked at them?I was walked through the mall,some kid with piercings in each ear,a womans necklace,a shortsleeve shirt with a turtleneck that was skin tight,and hes walking with 3 hot chicks.Like wtf

Spirit...you are so funny!! It is not her APPEARANCE ("manish; ugly, etc.) that makes the girl a "Tomboy". Nor is it the degree of her UGLY BEHAVIOR (such as your "shooting snot rockets" on the ground, or belching, etc.). It is just that she likes to engage in things that are typically of interest mostly to guys. I am definitely NOT "mannish" or "ugly", nor do I even know how to "shoot snot rockets to the ground" or belch. I am very feminine, but I am also a TOMBOY because my interests are "manly"--rollerblading, aggressive skating and skateboarding, surfing, Kung-Fu, kick-boxing, wilderness backpacking/hiking, long distance running, and a few other "non-prissy" sports. At the same time, I am an exotic dancer at a nice club at night, and I can assure you that noone in the audience would call me "manly" or "ugly"!! So there you go, Mr. Webster,....your stereotyping and definition of "tomboy" obviously SUCK!! Love, Venus.

ha ha im both! try and get a multi-faceted girl but dont try and change us! but i dont like bugs yuk.

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Originally posted by pretty pinay:
I am very feminine, but I am also a TOMBOY because my interests are "manly"--rollerblading, aggressive skating and skateboarding, surfing, Kung-Fu, kick-boxing, wilderness backpacking/hiking, long distance running, and a few other "non-prissy" sports. At the same time, I am an exotic dancer at a nice club at night, and I can assure you that noone in the audience would call me "manly" or "ugly"!! Love, Venus.

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i want to marry you

I suppose now would be a good time to place bets on how often she's heard that.

If I were presented with an option of both..I don't know if I could really choose

by the way the post is done..both sounds kinky

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Originally posted by pretty pinay:
I am very feminine, but I am also a TOMBOY because my interests are "manly"--rollerblading, aggressive skating and skateboarding, surfing, Kung-Fu, kick-boxing, wilderness backpacking/hiking, long distance running, and a few other "non-prissy" sports. At the same time, I am an exotic dancer at a nice club at night, and I can assure you that noone in the audience would call me "manly" or "ugly"!! So there you go, Mr. Webster,....your stereotyping and definition of "tomboy" obviously SUCK!! Love, Venus.

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I think this here post wraps this up guys.

Women don't do that sort of thing, you're just lying.