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| Spurious Generalities This is the general discussion and chat forum. People can discuss just about anything they want to in this area, providing it doesn't fit in one of the other forums and provided that it will bring conversation to the thread. |
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#1
 2002-12-04, 20:00
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beatmeofficer 
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Anti-Human Rights
I was surfing around Yahoo! looking in the "Issues and Causes" section for writing on anarcho-primitivism and looking at some of the weird ass issues and causes that some folks get into. I saw the "Human Rights" category and said, "Wow, there are a shitload of links in the category. Let's see of there's anything interesting..." There was nothing interesting. It was a bunch of groups talking about slavery in northern Africa and human rights abuses in central America and why the UN kicks so much ass, etc, etc.
I was wondering if anyone knew of organizations that reject the concept of human rights. Are there any groups that refuse to acknowledge that people should be free to communicate as they please, or receive an education, or live in peace. Are there any groups who believe that violence can solve problems? Do any groups not accept the idea that people have a right not to be enslaved, tortured, or murdered? Who rejects the very idea of war crimes as absurd? Who supports sweat shops? Is any group anti-equity, anti-equality, anti-democracy?
I mean, with all the pro-Human Rights groups, there's got to be some anti-Human Rights groups, right? If everyone believed in human rights there wouldn't be organizations like Amnesty International, the International Red Cross, or Human Rights Watch.
If there aren't any groups opposed to human rights, the human rights abusers need to get off their asses and get organized. I know that "ethnic cleansing," enslaving villages, torturing, extra-judicial killings, political imprisonment, and random massacres can take a lot out of someone, but maybe they should also take a look at the big picture. Sure, cracking down on internal dissent and keeping a population from rising up under tyrrany is important, but anti-human rights groups also need to look at the international picture. It's only a matter of time before the international human rights lobby start trying to shut down any human rights abuser.
The only effective course of action for human rights abusers is to get just as organized as the human rights advocates. Anti-human rights activists write hundreds of letters to international political figures pushing for the abolition of the Geneva Convention. As a form of guerrilla protest a man chains himself to a shipment of food bound for a drought stricken land. Protesters picket the office of the UN Commision on Human Rights.
Or course, because of their ideology anti-human rights groups won't be restrained by the idea of non-violent protest and civil disobedience. Gangs of men with billy-clubs beat up union organizers in third world textile plants. Financial, medical, and food aid disappears; Men in military fatigues or business suits are seen walking away with bags of grain and syrettes of morphine. International human rights observers disappear too. Oppression intensifies and wave after wave of refugees fill camps, stretching the resources of aid organizations to the breaking point. International election observers monitor an election with only one candidate.
What can the international human rights community do to react to a groups like that? Can non-violent principled disobedience stand up to violent un-principled repression? Those who emulate Gandhi and Martin Luther King must remember that fate that they both met.
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#2
 2002-12-04, 20:58
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dopeman420 
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Re: Anti-Human Rights
Isn't the KKK kinda like that?
but really... a spike of morphine on me at all times? where do i sign up?
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#3
 2002-12-04, 21:36
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Re: Anti-Human Rights
Most anti-right groups are goverments. (like chinas and the ex-soviet union and ditatorships like iraq's)
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#4
 2002-12-05, 14:26
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SATURNROCKETX 
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Re: Anti-Human Rights
Yes. Here are some anti-HUMAN Rights groups: http://www.adl.org (say only jews should have rights, use financial attacks and defamation to achieve ends) http://www.jdl.org (say only jews should have rights, use physical attacks to achieve ends) http://www.abcnews.com , http://www.nbcnews.com , http://www.cbsnews.com (say only NON-Whites should have rights)
Also the Internet.
[This message has been edited by SATURNROCKETX (edited 12-05-2002).]
[This message has been edited by SATURNROCKETX (edited 12-05-2002).]
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#5
 2002-12-05, 15:03
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Raf_the_Penguin 
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Re: Anti-Human Rights
after lightly browing your previously listed sites ive come to the sole enlightening conclusion that BOTH sides are full of shit and deserve punishment for their atrocities against humanity. we're all guilty, deal with it and pass me the bourbon.
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#6
 2002-12-05, 15:13
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Raf_the_Penguin 
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Re: Anti-Human Rights
could i clarify that any further by stating that all government technically counts as enslavement of mankind by removing each and every individuals inherent freedom and that the only possible solution to such a problem is by reversing the structure of organization to the point where every individual is able to make decisions with the same supposed "competency" as a nations leader and the people fufilling the positions of "president/prime minister/king/leader" have their positions rightfully reduced to the equivalent of burger flipping at your local fast food extortionist syndicate, thus allowing effective and efficient voting and governmental structure provided by ACTUAL education systems instead of worker drone factories. Did I also mention my complete lack of ability to punctuate after 3AM?
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#7
 2002-12-05, 15:26
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MSW2006 
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Re: Anti-Human Rights
Lolok up any of the stupid animal rights groups like PeTA, and you'll see.
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