Who ever believes that the Holocaust didn't happen has to be idiotic. There is too much prove of it to disagree with it.

Anyone remotely intelligent knows that the holocaust was just a big fake. All pictures, video documentation, and other stunts were created at Hollywood in movie studios. Shame on the jews for lying about something so horrific. Bastards.

Valirus... I live in Middletown. Who are you?

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Then how do you explain all of the corroborative stories? You make it seem like all Jewish people are a single entity, capable of lying together.

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Everyone is capable of lying in a group. That is where they lies are most effective.

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Do you think that a lie the magnitude of the Holocaust could be commited simultaneously by so many unrelated people?

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Since most of their stories consist of bullshit about guards beating people up or sob stories about uppity family members being shot, I dont consider these lies. Guards shooting prisoners or abusing their power is true of any detainment scenario; it says nothing to prove the existence of an officially sanctioned plan to exterminate people.

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Also, Hitler's Mein Kampf claims that a German mating with a Jew is anathema to nature; that it unravels her carefully laid plans for the Aryan race. His philosophy made all other races expendable for the good of his New Order. First, there were sterilization camps, that any German could verify, to stop people with physical and mental defects from mating. Following this were "Euthanasia" clinics, where such people were put to death. /B]

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The numbers were small and manageable, and it was done in a time of peace when Germany was enjoying an economic boom. It is far different than the red tape of dealing with 4.5 million in a time of war for survival.

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[B] In order for your theory to hold up, Hitler would have to be able to kill thousands of innocents at a whim,

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It wasnt a "whim," euthanasia is medicine and was gaining momentum around the world as a practical and merciful way to improve the quality of life.

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but have the mercy to transport six million Jews, his most hated racial target, instead of killing them.

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I dont think he had any desire to exterminate a people, but even if Im wrong, its simply logistically impossible, and defintely not practical in war-time.

On a different note: How do you explain six million people, all of Jewish descent, being sent to "labor camps" for no reason other than their religious background and dissapearing without a trace?

If there were no gas chambers, as you claim, where did they go? All accidental falls into the incinerator?

And I'm a high school student.

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Anyone remotely intelligent knows that the holocaust was just a big fake. All pictures, video documentation, and other stunts were created at Hollywood in movie studios. Shame on the jews for lying about something so horrific. Bastards.

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There are pictures of starving people. People were interned and towards the end of the war, starved real bad, just like everyone in the Third Reich, because thats what losing a war does.

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On a different note: How do you explain six million people, all of Jewish descent, being sent to "labor camps" for no reason other than their religious background and dissapearing without a trace?

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They didnt. If 6 million disappeared, thered be no Jews left, especially since only 4 million or so lived in Reich occupied Europe.

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If there were no gas chambers, as you claim, where did they go? All accidental falls into the incinerator?.

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The Soviet Union, the USA, Australia, Britain, Canada, they survived, or they starved or died of typhus.


Whats your name?

Do you have any evidence of only 4 million Jews living in Nazi-controlled land I could see?

If they were set up to kill people, why are their "survivors?"

They were useful to the Nazis. Or they weren't exterminated by the time the liberating armies arrived.

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I have lost a lot of respect for totse. I cant believe you people can make a mockery out of the holocaust. I am not jewish, but a close family friend was in a concentration camp, where her 4 year old brother was thrown into the electric barbed wire fence for accepting candy from a guard. It seemed unreal to me at the time. I went to the concentration camp that she was in. It was buchenwald, a work camp. The reality sank in when i saw the crematorium where the child was incinerated. I saw the medical room where the incomers were shot through the back of the neck through a hidden gunport as they were measured for height. the vast wasteland where so many people suffered brought tears to my eyes. Damn you for disregarding the innocent lives lost. Your hate will not go unpunished.

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Still seems unreal to me, and it goes against the Allied reports of what they found when they got to these camps.
You can certainly make a lot of money from the holocaust when you can extort generations and generations of Germans for fictional crimes. Americans and Brits owe Germans BIG time. Its hard to say if we could ever make up for what we have done to them.

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Anyone remotely intelligent knows that the holocaust was just a big fake. All pictures, video documentation, and other stunts were created at Hollywood in movie studios. Shame on the jews for lying about something so horrific. Bastards.

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Your not far off. Pictures of Gentile Russian prisoners in jewish gulags located in Russia were cut and pasted with slight airbrushing into another picture with dead bodies. These emaciated and dying White Russian prisoners of the jewish rulers of the Soviet Union were passed off as jewish prisoners. I have a magazine called "Did 6 Million Really Die?" that proves it by showing the unaltered original pictures and the fake "jewish victim" pictures the criminal Allied leaders passed off as jewish prisoners. The doctored photos were created by the U.S. Army Intelligence folks at the end of the war.

Ultimately there is no end to the "buts" and "ifs" and "but ifs" and "what ifs" Holocaust groupies can make up to counter facts and common sense. The only solution is to actually put the groupies into a concentration camp where they will be forced to take up new and useful hobbies, like rolling giant yarn balls to replace the giant jewish-spun yarns they covet now.

I doubt a periodical entitled, "Did Six Million Really Die?" has the most accurate information.

Ifs? What ifs? If anyone here is just spouting what ifs, it is the Holocaust deniers.

Every single Holocaust survivor COULD be telling the exact same lie, and all of them COULD be the best actors in the world, especially the man crying his eyes out as he told me of his experiences in Auschwitz and of his family being gassed and incinerated. Yes, they COULD all be lying and delivering the greatest mass performance the world has ever seen. Who is dealing in common sense here?

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Ifs? What ifs? If anyone here is just spouting what ifs, it is the Holocaust deniers.

Every single Holocaust survivor COULD be telling the exact same lie, and all of them COULD be the best actors in the world, especially the man crying his eyes out as he told me of his experiences in Buchenwald and of his family being gassed and incinerated.

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I thought you said that was the work camp where he cried about people being thrown into an electric fence by a guard?

Bodies are incinerated in the interest of hygiene. People die in camps, like I said, from starvation and typhus.

And who are you? You go to North? What grade?



And the 4 million or so comes from the minutes of the Wansee Conference, which gives a detailed list of how many Jews occupy each country of Europe, some occupied by the Reich, and some not. Unless you count all the Jews in the Soviet Union, and in countries like Ireland and Spain, there is no chance that the reich even detained 6 million Jews, let alone killed them.

Do you really think if they wanted to exterminate them some would have survived the camps? Do you know how easy it is to kill hundreds of thousands of people in a winter day in Poland? You wouldnt need expensive gas chambers and incinerators and bureaucracy, just some chains and a cold forest. It is not practical or efficient to believe a system and country known for its pragmatism and efficiency failed to realize that.

That wasn't me who mentioned Buchenwald. It was in my head while typing, and I mixed the camps.

Anyhow, I have been told the stories firsthand. I have seen the look in the survivors' eyes, and there is no way that they could all be lying. Until you have someone who lived through Auschwitz tell you their story, you have no right to call them liars. You know not of what you speak.

And I go to one of the Monmouth County Voc schools, up in Wall. I'm a Junior.

The transcripts of the Wannsee conference I've seen count 11 million Jews (including some in territories never controlled by Germany).

Yeah, like i said, if you count Ireland, Russia, Finland, etc etc.

And Val, holy shit, survivors are not telling you about an officially sanctioned plan of extermination, they give you sob stories about mean guards. There are mean guards everywhere. Mean guards does not equal The Fuhrer ordering genocide.

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HAHAHA, OMG! You actully think everyone is actually born equal.
I'm sorry, but some people are just naturally born more intelligent just as others have genes that will make them of a larger stature and strength.

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I should probably have made myself clearer. I'm perfectly willing to accept that some people are more intelligent, some may be stronger, some may be able to bake better cakes etc etc but at the end of, all that is of no relevence to happiness or spirtuality, no matter what your faith or lack thereof may be. Everyone has the potential to become happier and more spirtually fulfilled. Since this was a thread largely involving religion, I thought it was a relevent point to make on the grounds of equality.

One man's heaven is another man's hell.

Being jewish is not a religion, its a genetic reality.

Equality exists nowhere in nature and never has.

Yeah i just started reading this topic... I noticed someone mentioned 6 Million jews killed, and someone else said 11.... Yeah over 22 Million Russians were killed in the war, as well as many other nationalities. C'mon gimme a break.

Many of the 5 million Jews in the USSR were in German occupied territory. Excluding 2,300 Finns and 4000 Irish and even the 300,000 Brits doesn't make that much difference - the figure totals at way over 4 million.

The Russian war casualties (mostly military) don't have their own lobby group. Nobody tries to prove that they didn't die, either.

i'm a racist motherfucker
auschwitz themepark is a wonderful idea
jews suck
whites suck (i am white)
blacks suck
asians suck
everyone sucks
suck my ass it smells
FUCK YOU!

just kidding, FUCK ME!
the world is flat, and you are all robots,
stop lying to me!

From an unbiased and objective stance, which seems more likely:

1. Hitler rounded up millions Jews, much like the USA did with the Japanese. Hitler then put the Jews to work, killing those that were unfit to work, providing himself with free labor and less opposition. As well as a scapegoat for any of Germany's problems.

2. The CIA/NSA/FBI or whatever intelligence agency was spoken of fabricated hundreds of pictures; skillfully manipulating them before the computers and the technology needed for such realistic fakes was available. The surviving Jews then concocted a master plan, the perfect lie. Since the end of the war they have never once said something to contradict another. Some organization brought together thousands of the best actors of all different ages to lie? And not to lie for money, but for free. Oh yeah, and when Hitler wrote of exterminating and getting rid of the Jews... he was obviously meaning something else besides exterminating and getting rid of the Jews...

Which is more likely? Free labor for Hitler or a complex lie that has lasted generations?

It's always hard to understand how people can completely rid themselves of reason.

The Numbers:

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Country Number

A. Germanyproper 131,800
Austria 43,700
Eastern territories 420,000
General Government 2,284,000
Bialystok 400,000
Protectorate Bohemia and Moravia 74,200
Estonia
- free of Jews -
Latvia 3,500
Lithuania 34,000
Belgium 43,000
Denmark 5,600
France / occupied territory 165,000
unoccupied territory
700,000
Greece 69,600
Netherlands 160,800
Norway 1,300
Bulgaria 48,000
England 330,000
Finland 2,300
Ireland 4,000
Italy including Sardinia 58,000
Albania 200
Croatia 40,000
Portugal 3,000
Rumania including Bessarabia 342,000
Sweden 8,000
Switzerland 18,000
Serbia 10,000
Slovakia 88,000
Spain 6,000
Turkey (European portion) 55,500
Hungary 742,800
USSR 5,000,000
Total over 11,000,000

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He also planned to eventually have them "act as the seed of a new Jewish revival (see the experience of history.) "

What do those numbers represent?

>>>Which is more likely? Free labor for Hitler or a complex lie that has lasted generations?<<<

Free labor is not a holocaust.

I remember my parents who lived in communist Jugoslavia telling me how the were called up by the governement during the summer to go work in factories or on farms. They waren't payed for this. Same things happened in Russia and other communist states. There wasn't much diffrence between working in a nazi prison camp, or working in Siberia during the winter.

Xeno: I don't think anyone's arguing your point. This has turned into a thread discussing the validity of the Holocaust.

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Free labor is not a holocaust.

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Nor did I say it was. Free labor was why some Jews weren't killed. Why should Hitler have to waste money and manpower when he can just force the Jews to do whatever he wanted?

But I'm not going to start restating things that have already been said. While the few defending the truth of the Holocaust have provided ample amounts of reason and evidence to support our arguments, you who call it all fake provide nothing but "fucking jews, they're all liars".

No, I will start again. Your evidence is as follows.

1 - "I guess all the pictures..."

The pictures are of starving people, or of bodies. People starved in work camps, no doubt. People died there too, no doubt. Nowhere near 6 million died, and it was not officially sanctioned. None of your pictures can even suggest that.

2 - "I guess all the survivors are lying..."

No. The survivors are not saying, "So me and my buddy Rudolf Hess were relaying messages from the Fuhrer to the Round Table concerning the extermination of Jews." Their stories are of hard work, enslavement, and cruel guards. Some, like Elie Wiesel, however, are lying. He did not run 20 miles in the snow with no shoes on with no food in his belly and a wounded foot, and he didnt see babies burning in open pits, because open pits are a shitty way to burn bodies, and its a waste of fuel.

3 - "Hitler said he was going to kill them."

He said he was a Christian too. The man had 60 million people to answer to, a great segment of which were rabidly anti-semitic before Hitler. Its called PR.

4 - "I guess the concentration camps are fakes."

No. No one is denying Jews were interned and forced to work. No one is denying they had a pretty miserable existence. No one is denying a lot, possibly even a million, died from typhus, starvation, and exposure mostly, but some from commandants and guards abusing their power and acting without the orders of the Reichsfuhrer or other commanders.

What you really have is a bunch of war-time stories and rumors that circulated around the rightly paranoid camp inmates turned into our mainstream version of it. When you hear things about "Jews" being rounded up and shot in the forest, what they never tack on is that the Jews were members of the Communists party, and part of partisan armies. Etc, etc, I have to go to work now.

I just looked at all these posts for the first time, and i'm going to be perfectly honest. I laughed. It's funny seeing how Xenobite is the only one out there with a sense of humor about this. I've seen topics that have offened me, but i didn't go on and on whining about it. It's bound to happen that you see something that offends you. DEAL WITH IT. The holocaust is over with, deal with it. It's the past. There's nothing you can do to change that. So why not get a fucking sense of humor about it? Sure you all probably have relatives that died in it, but still. They're dead. They're not coming back. They never will. So why not learn to not take things so seriously and get the slightest bit of humor out of this.

I'm done.

--Malignant

The sad thing, is the upcomming holocaust. Now that's one thing not to be laughing with. As some else said (sorry I can't remember your name and I'm too lazy to search for it ) : "It's funny cause laughing is the only thing you can do about it."

Well same goes for history. You can only laugh with it. But don't laugh (or underestimate) with the future. There's a big chance some great conflict will come which will be many times greater than the holocaust.


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Everyone involved in WW2 suffered, and I don't deny that bad things happened to Jews. But, just like I said, EVERYONE suffered, not just the Jews. The Japs did things just as bad to chinese civilians. Japs living in America were put in concentration camps etc etc. But we should mourn everyone who died indiscriminately, the Jews shouldn't make it look like they were the only ones who suffered and shouldn't milk it for half a century after. Xenobite was right when he said the Jews use it as a shield, because they do. Few have enough guts to criticise them because they've suffered so much. It's the same with all oppressed ethnicities. People here in the U.S call someone who critizes' blacks a racist even though they may have legitimate points. I guess this could be called, reverse-racism. But, as for who to blame for the holocaust, I'd say the Brits. THe reason being that Arch Duke Ferdinand's driver was a Brit, who took a wrong turn, getting the duke assasinated and effectively starting WW1, Then after Germany - Austrian alliance was defeated, Britain and France forced the Germans to pay unreasonable reparations and divided their land setting the stage for right wing nationalists to stage a coup and find a scape goat for the world wide depression. Since not many Jews had returned to Britain after King Gregory (i think thats his name) banned them all from Britain in previous centuries and many settled in present day Germany, and since many Jews dodged draft in WW1 for germany, The Nazis used the Jews as there scape goat. Then after the holocaust the Brits made it worse by sending them to Israel, but we all know that story.

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Ha ha ... hurm...

Xenobite is right, there is something horrible on the horizons.

Wow,great idea. Heres some more:

A "Titanic"-a splash ride

Ride The Twin Towers!!- A obvious takeoff of the "Lift of Doom" ride at Disneyworld

Shoot the Schoolchildren- some kind of Laser Adventure thing

Or, to take home:

Build Death Row
Microsoft Biological Weapons Simulator
Mass Murderer Barbie

See how much fun we can have when we start making fun about major disasters?

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But, as for who to blame for the holocaust, I'd say the Brits. THe reason being that Arch Duke Ferdinand's driver was a Brit, who took a wrong turn, getting the duke assasinated and effectively starting WW1, Then after Germany - Austrian alliance was defeated, Britain and France forced the Germans to pay unreasonable reparations and divided their land setting the stage for right wing nationalists to stage a coup and find a scape goat for the world wide depression. Since not many Jews had returned to Britain after King Gregory (i think thats his name) banned them all from Britain in previous centuries and many settled in present day Germany, and since many Jews dodged draft in WW1 for germany, The Nazis used the Jews as there scape goat. Then after the holocaust the Brits made it worse by sending them to Israel, but we all know that story.

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hahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
Personally I blame Tsar Nicholas II of Russia. Wait, no, I blame the earlier Romanovs, because if they hadn't had decendants none of this would have happened. Garibaldi must bear a significant amount of responsibility since his unified Italy welcomed Mussolini as its leader a few generations later, and we know tht Hitler admired Mussolini.
In fact, in many ways the fall of the Roman Empire could be connected with the rise of the Nazis since if the Roman Empire hadn't fallen little more than a millenium and a half earlier, none of this would happen. I'm sure I can draw up a very strong case for that - the brutal tribes which cut a swathe through European civilisation bear responsibility not only for the killing raping and pillaging they carried out, but those that would be carried out later on because they had irreversibly changed the future of Europe. No, let's do this properly - Abraham/Ibrahim must take reponsibility since Judaism and the other Ibrahemic faiths arose from his leadership. The list of people, nations and political forces you could pin the blame on is seemingly endless.

Instead of picking on random nations and historical figures who influenced the course of history, one could take a controversial view and blame those who actually committed war crimes, and [i] those who ordered them. But then that would just be silly. Why blame the perpetrators of an act when you can point to the actions of others a generation ago?

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No, let's do this properly - Abraham/Ibrahim must take reponsibility since Judaism and the other Ibrahemic faiths arose from his leadership.

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Well at least there's one person here who gets it.

Nah... Abraham only did what God told him. I blame God.

There is no god. Abraham was on drugs...

As usual, not a single intelligent rebuttal to my points.

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Xenobite was right when he said the Jews use it as a shield, because they do.

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I said it. I started the controversy in this thread. Not that I want any credit.

The jews point the finger at nazi germany for their suffering. There are 4 fingers pointing back at them.

Its called being held responsible for your actions. "Dont do the crime if you cant do the time." Should we pity history's extortionists? They say we should.

The jews are the most dispicable people on earth. They have used the human suffering of their own people to make money. Plain and simple. When life gives you apples, make applesauce eh?

The jews detract from the very signicance of HUMAN SUFFERING. For they have used it to profit from our sense of MORALITY.

They are the "takers" of the world.

soooo it really was aliens building the pyramids???
OOhh and you'd be one of the people contesting the validity of the trip to the moon too right?
And O.J really was innocent!!! hey we dont have any evidence on that! omg...wow i never thought about that before! there wasnt a contract written that he was going to kill her....we dont have pictures! it couldnt have happened!

Oh yeah, those filthy Jews. They got exactly what was coming to them during World War II, after they- They, uh- Uhm, I'm retarded.

Why dont you start asking some fundamental questions you idiots. How about: why would the jews discriminate themselves as the victims instead of humanity? Look to the past. What involovement have jews had in history? Look to the present. Why are jews the most powerful people in hollywood and American media? Why is Israel of concern to the average American?

What does increased Jewish influence stemming from the holo-hoax mean to us(whites)? Well, what you dont see staring you directly in the face is: use of media to propagate ideals beneficial to their objectives. Increased reverse discrimination. Control of information. And all the intrinsic value of these advantages.
http://www.natvan.com/who-rules-america/

And what are jewish objectives? Lets see:

"AZM promotes and enhances creative Jewish continuity, using the magnetic force of Israel as a weapon against the destructive trends of assimilation and intermarriage; we are creating a new sense of Jewish self through identification with the people and the State of Israel. "
- The American Zionist Movement homepage http://www.azm.org/aboutus.html

But dont we see jews posing as white people in movies where whites and blacks co-exist in a hijinxical and zany manner? The N.A.A.C.P was founded and headed by jews. So they want us to accept and assimilate minorities while the stay separate? Why? United they stand, divided we fall.

"Concerted effort to harness funds in order to carry out the tasks of Zionism.
Encouragement of private capital investment.
Fostering of Jewish consciousness by propagating the Zionist idea and strengthening the Zionist Movement; imparting the values of Judaism; Hebrew education and spreading the Hebrew language."
-American Zionist Movement http://www.azm.org/jprog.html

Really? Well Mazel Tov to you! Greedy Jews want money to make more money? Oy Vey!

"the ZOA today works to strengthen American-Israeli relations, through educational activities, public affairs programs, support for pro-Israel legislation on Capitol Hill, and by combatting anti-Israel bias in the media, textbooks, travel guides, and on campuses."
-Zionist orginization of America. http://www.zoa.org/aboutzoa.htm

Combating anti-Israel bias in our classrooms? Have you EVER seen or heard of this? Its more like implanting pro-Israel bias in our classrooms.

Look at Judaism in history. Learn about the creation Israel and the terrorism against Britain. Zionism is very real, now the ADL is trying to deny it.

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Oh yeah, those filthy Jews. They got exactly what was coming to them during World War II, after they- They, uh- Uhm, I'm retarded.

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Yes you are. The wheels spinnin' but the hamster is dead.

I see no incriminating evidence in those quotes from the Zionist Movement besides saying, "We're trying to keep our identity."

There have been hundreds of organizations just like this for various other minorities to propagate their cultural identity. Why you're mindlessly attacking Jews simply for their being Jewish is beyond me. You obviously have some indoctrinated hatred for the Jewish people as a whole.

I'm not attacking anyone. I'd like to know what earth-shaking evidence there is besides popular consensus.

Jews are not simply a minority.

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I see no incriminating evidence in those quotes from the Zionist Movement besides saying, "We're trying to keep our identity."

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If white groups we're writing things such as this would they be called Nazi's?

Well who is making it impossible to express white identity without seeming racist? Are we doing it to ourselves? White culutre and values are constantly being smashed in mainstream popular media. There is not one example of white values and culture being popularized the same as black culture.

While Jews want to preserve their identity, they want to destroy ours. Just because its not right before your eyes doesn't mean its not happening.

Like the frog in the pot, if you throw it in to boiling water then it jumps out, but if you put it in cold water and slowly turn the heat up it get boiled without even noticing.

Spirit of '22, I wasn't referring to you when talking about Xenobite mindlessly attacking Jews. You have cogent arguments without resorting to racist bantering.

And Xenobite, I have not seen any examples of Jews trying to steal white identity in America. Many white supremacist groups like the Ku Klux Klan have earned their public hatred due to their proposition that whites are superior to other races. The Zionist Movement has claimed no such thing.

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And Xenobite, I have not seen any examples of Jews trying to steal white identity in America. Many white supremacist groups like the Ku Klux Klan have earned their public hatred due to their proposition that whites are superior to other races. The Zionist Movement has claimed no such thing.

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Where did I say that? Don't pull crap out of your ass, then tell people I said it.

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Originally posted by Valirus:
I see no incriminating evidence in those quotes from the Zionist Movement besides saying, "We're trying to keep our identity."

There have been hundreds of organizations just like this for various other minorities to propagate their cultural identity. Why you're mindlessly attacking Jews simply for their being Jewish is beyond me. You obviously have some indoctrinated hatred for the Jewish people as a whole.

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I never ATTACKED any jews. I know quit a few jewish people who are fun to hang out with. The only thing I did was:

• Showed humor towards this whole "holocaust" thingie
  
• Said that jews shouldn't use the holocaust as a shield to cover their own mistakes
  
• Death is funny, therefor lots of dead people (holocaust) is also funny. I allready said why, so don't bother calling me insane.
  
• Jews waren't the only ethnic group who suffered under the nazi kill-all-diffrent-from-aryan thingie
  
• You smell like a zionist
  

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Eh, I mixed your and Lionhart's posts, Xenobite. Sorry. But I don't take back any comments.

Man, none of you douches seem to have a sense of humor except xenobite. I was just trying to show how people come up with far out answers to divert the blame from themselves when i was refering to the brits.(although, brush your teeth for crist's sake)
Anyways, The holocaust happened although it's been inflated slightly since it happened and SOME Jews use it to shield themselves from their own mistakes. Just to let you know, the holocaust is a good example of natural selection, all wars are really. The fates of civilizations change through the centuries and they either grow strong or become little pussy groups. If you can't accept this, then just keep an open mind.

I understood your humor in the British driver scenario, but I don't see any humor in making light of so much death and misery. It's plain disrespectful to the dead. Show some morality, for Christ's sake.

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No.


My feet are cold.

Id still like to know what besides popular consensus is on the sides of those alleging a Holocaust.

We had this debate here before, in the Politics forum, and the believers were asserting that it is impossible to misplace millions of people, and it is indeed a fact that 6 million Jews were killed. But that was the same year that Auschwitz said, "Whoops, we misplaced millions of people. Only 1.5 million died here, not 4...But dont think just because we skimmed 2.5 million off the total, that less than 6 million died."

So, if they could be so grievously wrong about how many were killed for 50 years, what makes you think your numbers are so uncontestable?

There are Europeans currently in prison for nothing more than denying the holocau$t. I repeat, men are being incarcerated for mere words. It is a strange truth indeed that must be protected by intimidation and prison terms. The holocau$t is a religion, with its priests, its followers, and its heretics. Who says Jewish domination of Western politics is a canard?

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Well, I never hear the indians nag about how they were fucked by the white man.
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Jewish Casinos...*giggles then shudders*

Personally, I think hitler did a shitty job on the gypsies, like theyre all still there to beg for money and to try and steal your wallet

Wow, Xenobite. Way to bring up a totally unrelated subject based off of semantics to blatantly show off your beliefs. Very smooth.

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Microsoft Biological Weapons Simulator

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I'd buy it.