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 #1 
Old 2002-11-01, 17:30
Abomb Abomb is offline
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Default The president of amerika

this is kinda a 'poll'

Is George Bush a moron and need to be replaced?

you can put comments too
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Old 2002-11-01, 18:10
RevolutionNov7th RevolutionNov7th is offline
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Default Re: The president of amerika

This should really be moved to the politics forum but here's my opinion:

GWB is a moron, he needs to be removed but not replaced.

He is quite obviously too thick to run a lemonade stall, let alone a nation. He is a puppet for the greedy bastards who have the US and most of the western world in their icy grip.

When people say that Saddam, Bin Laden or China are the biggest threat to world peace and I tell them it's actually GWB, they stare at me, dumbfounded. But they all watch ITV news, I watch the BBC.

Although the BBC is starting to lose the independence that made it great.

Well that's my opinion. If you don't like it you can sod off and read someone else's post.

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Old 2002-11-01, 18:14
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he really isnt in control of much. if any of you watched the History Channel, you would see that there are secret societies out there, not like freemasons and Oddfellows, but Skull and Bones and others. Infact, the signing of the Declaration of Independance was a Skull and Bones ritual and the pyramyd on the back of a 1 dollar bill has a Lumni fraternaty symbol on it. this isnt a government elected by people, its run by people in silly hats!
watch the history channel and see what i mean.
-peace
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Old 2002-11-01, 18:34
KamikazePimp KamikazePimp is offline
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Indeed, Dubya has the intellect of rabbit shit! I think he should resign for the embetterment of the world. Why should a fucking moron like Dubya have all this power??
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Old 2002-11-01, 23:21
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Cuase his daddy was rich and powerful and so he got all the connections because of it.
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Old 2002-11-02, 00:17
ShadowFist ShadowFist is offline
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umm last time i checked America is spelled with a C, learn to spell at least half-way decent
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Old 2002-11-03, 06:03
likuidsmoke likuidsmoke is offline
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Hows this for an idea. after his 4 yr term, Bush goes for the lesser polls (jsut like V P Mondale) and eventually those two get to gether with Daddy GHWBush pulling all the strings in teh background.

If W. is so bad, then why is the world are we not paying attention to the original clone matter involved.

Whats even more important is that these are the candidates that are involved in the makings and breakings of war in the mideast. All these times to come rely on how our leaders and beaurocricies work together.
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we have been through the worst of the worst
we know what we are now made of. Let the past guide us and divine wisdom be the beacon from which we steer our lives.
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Old 2002-11-03, 06:26
C4era C4era is offline
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Hmmm.. Bush... I didnt notice that.. he sorta divided our attention (US and Canadas) away from Cloning, Urban Crime (Other then the Sniper Shootings) and tech.. He's been making CNN post most of the news in the Middle-East and at other European/Asian countries (Like the border elimination in Korea) ....

So whos got the clone a person for free card?
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Old 2002-11-03, 11:23
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This thread shouldn't be moved to the politics forum.
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Old 2002-11-20, 01:13
likuidsmoke likuidsmoke is offline
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Now that Bush has his Homeland Security Bill to make up for his insecure homelife (oh yeah, being the most powerful family in the world makes me insecure) maybe we'll start seeing some action and reaction other than a trickle down economic water tourture from teh forture 500 companies. probably not.

Maybe we will start making some progress in the middle eas politics that don't involve bombing the living fuck out of 3rd world nations that are oppressed by a truckload of UN/US sanctions. We may actually live up the notion of being a kind and respecful nation. Probably not.

Hopefully the US will not start a war in teh middle east plitical inwith wild west methods and create more frustration with how we attempt to form logical and sustainable prosperity for all members of the human reace. But we probably will.

Its going to be one hell of a ride
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Old 2002-11-20, 04:54
beatmeofficer beatmeofficer is offline
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quote:
In September 2000, this organisation set out its perspective as follows: �Over the decade of the post-Cold-War period ... almost everything has changed. The Cold War was a bipolar world; the 21st century world is�for the moment, at least�decidedly unipolar, with America as the world�s �sole superpower.� America�s strategic goal used to be containment of the Soviet Union; today the task is to preserve an international security environment conducive to American interests and ideals� (Rebuilding America�s Defences, p. 2).
This comes from a
speech by Nick Beams of the Socialist Equality Party. He's referring to an organization called the Project for the New American Century.

That statement basically describes the foreign policy objectives of the Whitehouse. Bush et al. are working to preserve America's status as the most powerful country in the world both militarily and economically. The Whitehouse tries to hide the self interest behind ideas like the War on Terror, Human Rights, and Weapons of Mass Destruction, but the real goal is to ensure American hegemony (which means American business makes money, which is also in the self interest of Bush & his big business cronies.) Bush is playing hardball and he's playing for keeps. He understands that his duty is not to some ideal but rather to the American people. Bush's job is to secure the most benefit for the American people; Everyone else can fuck off. America has military, economic, and cultural power and we are using it.

The rest of the world is pissed off about it. The reason they're pissed off is two-fold: Much of the rest of the world looks at things from an idealist prospective, especially Europe, and the rest of the world lacks the power to resist America's assertion of self interest. The idealists like to live in their fairy-tale land with silly ideas like human rights, peace, and consensus. The executive understands that these ideas come from the morality of the weak. Those who appeal to ideals only do so because they are too weak to offer any real opposition. This weakness and the realization of utter impotence is what leads to The Rest Of The World's resentment towards America.

I like Bush's foreign policy. I'm not going to get into his domestic policy. I think I can see where he's going with it, and it's a little bit scary. I think that if he succeeds, life in America will be very very different in ten years. I don't see it as necessarily bad, it just scares me a bit.

In any case, foreign policy is really what a president is supposed to focus on and also where the president has the most power. Hamilton offers a bit of explanation on the executive's role in foreign policy in Federalist 75. It's because of Bush's strong foreign policy that I support him. Or course, if he's the dolt that so many of you believe he is, you shouldn't really dislike him either. If he's really that stupid it ought to be easy to defeat his policy.
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Old 2002-11-24, 07:58
ksandre ksandre is offline
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Harpers Magazine - October, 2002
"Dick Cheney's Song Of America..."
investigative report by David Armstrong

The military plan for the US to control and dominate the world - crafted by Cheney, et.al. It really doesn't matter about Shrub [except for G.H.W.Bush] or Clinton [except as distraction from reality] and, as we all know by now, Reagan.


There's also brief interview by Amy Goodman on Democracy Now! with the reporter:

http://www.webactive.com/pacifica/demnow/dn20020927.html


Do read that Harpers issue - it's great.


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Old 2002-11-24, 10:00
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Hello everyone, i am janus. I run an organisation called the united international revolutionary movement. Our goals are an eventual abolisment of capitalism on the global front and the construction of a new society based on equallity and freedom. As you can see from the acts of George w. Bush that people are in no way free in western civilisation. We hope that eventualy we will get enough support to do things about poverty, polution, and our overal lack of democracy.

If you are interested in joining our organisation or want more information, please contact me by sending an email to justice_is_janus@hotmail.com or iff you have msn messenger adding me to your contact list.
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Old 2002-11-25, 03:17
likuidsmoke likuidsmoke is offline
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AS a Gemini, i never trust anything named Janus, where does your other face look twords and what does it entail. Not to sound offensive or abrasive, but if you name our group Janus, then expcet some skeptisim about your motivations.
 
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