does anyone know anything about these so-called herbal marijuana substitutes?are any of them any good?..i tried balefire..it was o.k.,but not exactly what i was lookin for.any thoughts out there?let me know,o.k.?

I tried Salvia. That stuff is decent, but it doesn't compare one bit to the kind herb!

I miss my herbs!!! DAMM U EL-NINO. DAMN U TO HELL!!!!!!!!

Salvia and Opium Lettuce are both okay, if you don't have anything GOOD around. The effects are much shorter lived and not near as potent. Mix them with your pot though, and it is good!!!

Why substitute for cannabis? That legal crap is like a tofu burger... useless. If i wanted to eat a salad i would eat a salad, not a salad shaped like a burger!(stops ranting)

Shouldnt this be in BLTC?

i dont toke but from what i have heard the mixed breads that are part salvia are pretty decent.

i tried lots of herbal highs recently (dont flame me for this, please!!!) and some of them were actualy BETTER than MJ, i think the best was druids fantasy, i was high for about 12 hours i went to sleep at the end of it and woke up feeling the most refreshed and happy id eva felt in my entire life, the herbal speed i got (ex:1) was pretty cool it lasted about 6 hours and wasnt as effective as speed but better than caffiene (sp?) i got all these of the net so i aint sure were exactly were they came from.

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Originally posted by Monkfish:
i tried lots of herbal highs recently (dont flame me for this, please!!!) and some of them were actualy BETTER than MJ, i think the best was druids fantasy, i was high for about 12 hours i went to sleep at the end of it and woke up feeling the most refreshed and happy id eva felt in my entire life, the herbal speed i got (ex:1) was pretty cool it lasted about 6 hours and wasnt as effective as speed but better than caffiene (sp?) i got all these of the net so i aint sure were exactly were they came from.

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This is not a flame.

That said: you've not had any quality marijuana. You would not say what you did if you had.

I assure you.

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Originally posted by Monkfish:
i tried lots of herbal highs recently (dont flame me for this, please!!!) and some of them were actualy BETTER than MJ, i think the best was druids fantasy, i was high for about 12 hours i went to sleep at the end of it and woke up feeling the most refreshed and happy id eva felt in my entire life, the herbal speed i got (ex:1) was pretty cool it lasted about 6 hours and wasnt as effective as speed but better than caffiene (sp?) i got all these of the net so i aint sure were exactly were they came from.

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hey monkfish;what about that stuff called skunk or i think hydro?

Does any of that herbal shit actually taste like the sweet leaf? I can't smoke the real shit and when I get drunk sometimes I really want to, so having something that tasted about the same but wasn't real would be kind of nice.

i aint stupid assmonkey of course i smoke skunk on a regular basis wot i ment was the high was just a lot more pleasent and relaxing than mj but as you should know drugs effect different people in different ways (wether they are herbal or not) and herbals just seem to work for me better than MJ

From experiance I know that following herbs are crap...

Merlin's Blen
Spirit Walk
Vision Quest
Wacky Weed, don't listen to all that shit they say about it, it doesn't work and is bullshit!

True.

But only to people who have been instructed by a doctor to use it for a valid medical condition

Local Law enforcement were out there and doing nothing to those who were lighting up - as long as they fit the criteria.

The chief, or sheriff - or what ever he was - flat out and said that anyone caught smoking for fub would be busted.

Of course all the herbal crap in high times and other mags are bunk, if there was any psychoactive content in any of this crap it would have been researched and posted on hundreds of message boards. Here are a few OTC herbs that will have a discernable effect, I have never tried to smoke any of them, but hey, if it gets ya' off, try it!
Kava Kava: a relaxant, used by Maori natives as a social drug, take about 15 250mg kava pills and dissolve in hot milk, strain and share between 3 friends, DO NOT TAKE MORE THAN FIVE PILLS, liver toxicity is documented at high levels. Use a small amount of alchohol to heighten the social aspect, DO NOT TAKE KAVA IF YOU ARE A CHRONIC ALCHOHOLIC.
Valerian: a herbal valium, the psychoactive content is valerianic acid, 2 80 mg extract or 300 mg straight will mello you out and reduce stress, 6 of the same will reduce the craving for a joint and let you sleep, more than that will give you gut rot like the last time you dosed acid made from morning glory seeds.
St.Johns Wort: Use this herbal antidepressant to potentiate you favorite highs, adds a new twist to acid, mushrooms or anyting that acts on serotonin content, again DO NOT USE IF YOU HAVE BEEN BAD TO YOUR LIVER
Also, anybody interested in getting high for free keywords "phalaris dmt", "erowid vault, legal highs", "morning glory lsd", and one more thing:
NEVER EVER EVER USE DATURA, NO MATTER WHAT CARLOS CASTANEDA SAYS!!!
later

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Originally posted by culinaryoverlord:
Of course all the herbal crap in high times and other mags are bunk, if there was any psychoactive content in any of this crap it would have been researched and posted on hundreds of message boards. Here are a few OTC herbs that will have a discernable effect, I have never tried to smoke any of them, but hey, if it gets ya' off, try it!
Kava Kava: a relaxant, used by Maori natives as a social drug, take about 15 250mg kava pills and dissolve in hot milk, strain and share between 3 friends, DO NOT TAKE MORE THAN FIVE PILLS, liver toxicity is documented at high levels. Use a small amount of alchohol to heighten the social aspect, DO NOT TAKE KAVA IF YOU ARE A CHRONIC ALCHOHOLIC.
Valerian: a herbal valium, the psychoactive content is valerianic acid, 2 80 mg extract or 300 mg straight will mello you out and reduce stress, 6 of the same will reduce the craving for a joint and let you sleep, more than that will give you gut rot like the last time you dosed acid made from morning glory seeds.
St.Johns Wort: Use this herbal antidepressant to potentiate you favorite highs, adds a new twist to acid, mushrooms or anyting that acts on serotonin content, again DO NOT USE IF YOU HAVE BEEN BAD TO YOUR LIVER
Also, anybody interested in getting high for free keywords "phalaris dmt", "erowid vault, legal highs", "morning glory lsd", and one more thing:
NEVER EVER EVER USE DATURA, NO MATTER WHAT CARLOS CASTANEDA SAYS!!!
later

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in my post i mentioned something called skunk and hydro..these are two "HERBAL"AND "legal" substances sold on the 'net.i wanted to know if anybody knew anything about them..i am curiousa..i'm sick and tired of payin $200.00 an o.z.for the real deal

stuff sold on the 'net..i'm sick and tired of payin $200.00 an o.z. for the real deal... screw that crap..if you know what i mean

If any of you are serious smokers you should really try Alaskan weed if you haven't already. Everyone I have met from the lower 48 says that the weed down there isn't nearly as good as our weed up here. I've only smoked weed in Iowa, Washington, North Dakota and Missourie so I can't say for sure that Alaska weed is better then everywhere else, but from what I've smoked in the states it definitely seems like it. A friend of mine just got back from Minnesota and he said that the weed was so weak down there that he wouldn't even smoke it. The down side to having really good weed up here is that it can get hella expensive. Any comments on this?

hey steph..did you read my post..it's the one before yours..i pay about $240.00an o.z.for the good shit here in ky. that's too damn much,no matter how good the shit is!

you people from america really do pay waaaaaaaaaay to much for weed. just gotta say a few things here 1) in england skunk is a very strong typa weed and isnt a herbal substitute 2) i pay between �80-100 thats about $130-190ish for fuckin amazin stuff �80 for an oz of bubblegum oooooooooooh baby! oh and dont try smokin weed substitues cos its just like smokin yo mums spice rack

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Originally posted by cap'ncrunchd:
does anyone know anything about these so-called herbal marijuana substitutes?are any of them any good?..i tried balefire..it was o.k.,but not exactly what i was lookin for.any thoughts out there?let me know,o.k.?

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u kno in pizza hut ,at ur table thell b salt,pepper,parmazan, and importantly Chilli pepper now i tryed it out as a experament n wat a disscovery, smokin chilli pepper in a joint was the best eva , it lasted a couple of hours n was felt really gd , now recently i try jus ordinary chill pepper n i dunt think it worked as gd but i dnt think i smoked much of that joint then. but i suggest u try Chilli pepper it is sum gd shit. ive tryed nutmegg aswell it dnt kick in for a while and aint that gd, it aint really worth the time wen u can hav chilli pepper. ill tell u sum more if u want after ive experamented on more spices n herbs lol. love me .

i guess i'll never get an honest answer in this forum..all i get are conflicting opinions..no one really knows anything..just biased opinions...real bullshit.i thought this forum was about the free exchange of info..what a bunch of assholes.

Free exchange of information should consist solely of biased opinions.