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| Spurious Generalities This is the general discussion and chat forum. People can discuss just about anything they want to in this area, providing it doesn't fit in one of the other forums and provided that it will bring conversation to the thread. |
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#1
 2002-09-08, 14:59
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freedomtakestime 
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hitler/bush connection
I sent the message below to Chung and many other news outlets by fax 10-12 days ago. As well I sent it to all democratic senators. It came very close to getting something done(the plan for a Chung "expose" of the club on Sep 3 and 4th) so I think I'm on the right track...i.e. making the connection between accepting the fascism of the bush admin. and the way the germans accepted the nazi fascism in its early stages. I think the person who got the show cancelled is john kerry. he is likely to be the next president after bush and in fact, sinced he is also skull and bones there will be 2 running for president against each other. he married the Heinz heiress(widow) Maria Teresa Thierstein Simoes-Ferreira who is huge in Jewish society and whose father in law, Henry J. Heinz was skull and bones in 1931. She literally has no past that i can find before she married into the wealth ketchup dynasty, but interestingly, the original Heinz came to the US in the 1800,s from...guess where..Bavaria. And up until the 1990's, the only language allowed to be spoken amoung Heinz management was German. I am old and burnt out. Is there any young blood out there who will take this small beginning and run with it? there neeeds to be a substantial skull and bones website for 1 thing. "FAIR WARNING TO AMERICA" VIA:CNN..CONNIE CHUNG Aug.30,2002 I HAVE A WITNESS TO THE TRANSMISSION OF THIS INFORMATION AND HAVE ALSO SENT A COPY OF THIS TO MY ATTORNEY TO PROVE THAT I ATTEMPTED TO PUBLICIZE THIS DISTURBING INFORMATION PRIOR TO ANY ATTACKS UPON THE MIDDLE EAST BY PRESIDENT BUSH.THIS WARNING RELATES ONLY TO THE FACT THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE MAY BE UNKNOWINGLY FALLING UNDER A HITLER TYPE GLOBAL EXPANSIONARY REGIME IN THE SAME WAY THE GERMANS FELL UNDER SUCH A REGIME. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The 2 facts below support the likelihood that US armed forces are now under the control of a person who is a fascist with Hitler type ambitions and a plan for global expansion. These 2 facts are supported by the circumstantial evidence that this George Bush has consistently followed patterns set by his father and grandfather right down to belonging to the same anglo supremist club and having owned offshore oil companies(George Sr.-Zapata/George Jr.-Arken) as well a cult of secrecy relating to the people's business,(e.g. we never have found out who met with Cheney to design our energy policy and Bush stomps on any attempt to investigate what he knew about 9/11 in advance).It can also be construed that he has already put in place 1 puppet government;i.e. Afghanistan. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Premise investigated: "that Pres. Bush is an active white supremist fascist with world domination ambitions".
A. President Bush as well as his father belong(lifetime membership) and his grandfather belonged to a clandestine,self proclaimed white,anglo,protestant supremist organization which indoctrinates its members into a culture wherein they believe they have a "divine right" to govern the world and that their "breed" has "the highest value" among human beings:source: S&B Covenants. As you will see from item "B", the members of this club continue their association through business and political ventures throughout their lives. Several members were instrumental in shepherding the current President through his business and political ventures.The members have been quite successful in portraying the S&B club as harmless, however, as you can see from the attached details(verified), this club makes the KKK look like the "little rascals". The Yale yearbook for 1968 (photo/info available by email if requested)shows President Bush's club memberships as including the "Skull and Bones" club(he deflected questions about his membership when campaigning). His father and grandfather are also members as are many of their associates(e.g. R.Harriman(mentioned below) and his brother Averell (who is credited with being a major designer of the Viet Nam war)). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
B. President Bush's family amassed their fortune by supporting the Nazi regime .
Many of their business assets were confiscated by the US government in Oct.,1942, under the USA's "Trading with the Enemy" Act. While our allies were fighting the Nazis, Bush businesses worked with the Nazis as bankers,suppliers and partners. "Bush Property Seized--Trading with the Enemy(Office of Alien Property Custodian, Vesting Order No. 248) On Oct. 20, 1942, the U.S. government ordered the seizure of Nazi German banking operations in New York City which were being conducted by Prescott Bush"(President Bush's Grandfather)."Under the Trading with the Enemy Act, the government took over the Union Banking Corporation, in which Bush was a director. The U.S. Alien Property Custodian seized Union Banking Corp.'s stock shares, all of which were owned by Prescott Bush, E. Roland `` Bunny '' Harriman, three Nazi executives, and two other associates of Bush...all of which shares are held for the benefit of ... members of the Thyssen family, [and] is property of nationals ... of a designated enemy country.... Fritz Thyssen and his business partners are universally recognized as the most important German financiers of Adolf Hitler's takeover of Germany. At the time of the order seizing the Thyssen family's Union Banking Corp., Mr. Fritz Thyssen had already published his famous book, I Paid Hitler, admitting that he had financed Adolf Hitler and the Nazi movement since October 1923. Thyssen's role as the leading early backer of Hitler's grab for power in Germany had been noted by U.S. diplomats in Berlin in 1932" source:Wall Street Journal Oct.27,1942 "On Oct. 28, the U.S. government issued orders seizing two Nazi front organizations run by the Bush-Harriman bank: the Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation. (Alien Property Custodian Vesting Order No. 259: Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation; Vesting Order No. 261: Holland-American Trading Corp.)". source:Wall Street Journal Nov.3,1942. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There are other matters which (although factual and provable) are harder to voice..specifically that Prescott Bush, Roland and Averell Harriman and their German associate,Fritz Thyssen, provided the bulk of the financing for Hitler's rise to power and also that George H.W. Bush engineered the Gulf War by having the U.S. ambassador (April Glaspie) assure Saddam that the USA would not mind if he invaded Kuwait. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
THE ORDER OF SKULL & BONES source: http://davidicke.www.50megs.com/icke/magazine/vol10/articles/skullboneswp.html#2 Skull & Bones was founded at Yale College in New Haven, Connecticut in 1832. It was officially incorporated only in 1856 by William Huntington Russell as the Russell Trust Association.The money required to sustain the secret order's campus affairs and its broader role in placing its members into key positions of influence upon their graduation from Yale,was derived from the opium trade in the Far East. That trade was set up by the British East India Company and was flourishing by the time the Treaty of Paris was signed in 1783 ending the American War for Independence. The East India Company during this period was controlled by the Baring Brothers Bank (Toward the closing decades of the 17th century, the British House of Rothschild would supplant the Baring Brothers as the controlling financial interests in the China opium trade.)Through the sponsorship of the Barings and also the Rothschilds, a number of leading New England families, some of whom had sided with Great Britain during the American Revolution, were brought into the opium trade as junior partners. These merchant families ran fleets of clipper ships and became in many cases fabulously wealthy as the result of their association with the British East India Company. Among these key New England merchant families were: Cabot, Coolidge, Forbes, Higginson, Sturgis, Lodge, Lowell, Perkins and Russell.These New England merchant families founded the United Fruit Company and the Bank of Boston. Over several generations, however, all these families heavily intermarried and became, in effect, one extended power grouping. Throughout the 20th century, the Russell Trust Association listed the New York City headquarters of Brown Brothers Harriman as its address.Russell was valedictorian of his class at Yale in 1833. He and his Skull & Bones comrades considered themselves to be a special elite among the merchant banking and Puritan pilgrim elite of Yale. They took the Puritan beliefs of the early New England settlers, that they were "elected by God," and pre-ordained to rule .Two critics of the Order, historian Antony Sutton and investigative journalist Ron Rosenbaum (himself a Yale graduate), both concluded that Skull & Bones has degenerated even further since its founding. Sutton charges that the Order has become an evil instrument in the hands of America's secret power elite. It can be documented by comparing the family charts of the early Bonesmen that there is today a core group of no more than 20 to 30 families who form the nucleus of the Order. The majority are old-line Puritan families who came to North America in the very first wave of settlers in the 17th century. Among these prominent families are: Whitney, Lord, Phelps. Wadsworth, Allen, Bundy, Adams, Stimson, Taft, Gilman and Perkins. A second group of families in the Skull & Bones core earned fabulous fortunes during the 18th and 19th centuries and thus won a rite of passage into the New England elite, even though they were not among the earliest settlers. The leading Skull & Bones families in this second category are: Harriman, Rockefeller, Payne, Davison, Pillsbury and Weyerhauser.Prescott Bush and George Bush Sr. were also members.Prescott Bush was a partner in Brown Brothers Harriman and George Bush Sr. worked there. George Sr. owned an offshore oil company in the 50's ,Zapata oil, to avoid taxes and disclosure and the current President Bush did the same with his company,Arken oil. If you wish more details you may reach me at
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#2
 2002-09-08, 16:21
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bunghole 
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Re: hitler/bush connection
Interesting stuff.
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#3
 2002-09-08, 19:39
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Re: hitler/bush connection
I skim read the first few paragraphs, then decided I would find more interesting bullshit elsewhere.
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#4
 2002-09-08, 19:52
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Nox 
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Re: hitler/bush connection
*The gag/barf reflex overtakes Nox*
Nox
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#5
 2002-09-08, 23:02
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razorlines 
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Re: hitler/bush connection
That gave me a nice laugh
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#6
 2002-09-11, 07:46
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likuidsmoke 
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Re: hitler/bush connection
bush sr was elected in 1988, 88 is code for heil hitler (8th letter=h), just an ovservation
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#7
 2002-09-30, 22:59
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louieklouie 
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Re: hitler/bush connection
There is some evidence of the Bush/Hitler connection in the book Secrets of the Tomb (secretsofthetomb.com), about his secret society Skull and Bones. Apparently, Connie Chung's expose was supposed to be an interview with the author of this book -- but CNN pulled it at the last minute.
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#8
 2002-09-30, 23:16
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Re: hitler/bush connection
This is horseshit for the weak minded, but if you can't get enough then... more of the same
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#9
 2002-09-30, 23:39
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likuidsmoke 
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Re: hitler/bush connection
actually with these psychos, symbolisim means everything. once you see the pattern of symbols of the arcane and powerful you will notice that we are living in the One world order, the only thing new about it is the War on Terror. ITs a weird combination of satanic xtian perversian and disturbing facts.
Bush is a threat to the nation, of that there can be no doubt, but we the people are the silenced majority.
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#10
 2002-10-01, 02:40
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CDG 
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Re: hitler/bush connection
wow intersting stuff, while particularly disturbing. Submit it.
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#11
 2002-10-01, 09:17
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Re: hitler/bush connection
"actually with these psychos, symbolisim means everything"
and that accounts for why there is absolutly no tangible evidence that anyone will ever belive.
while i think an attack on iraq is a bad idea and it had occured to me that this is the PG version of how the NAZI's started i realised that i should probably sober up.
its complete bullshit.
are you going to waste your life complaining about something that doesn't exist, or are you going to take the medication and try to be normal?
youll be dead in 50 years (i don't know how old you are) and then nothing will have mattered. you would have wasted your life bitching and turning people against you. play the martyr if you want, but why not forget about your paraniod delusions and try to live and be happy. this is really as good as it gets, NWO or no NWO.
if you think the whole world is under control of satanic things, then why don't you just join in and have some fun? everyone else does.
but fuck it, i don't give a shit, you seem like an obsessed phsyco who needs a large variety of very powerful medication. its useless arguing with you because in your mind you will always win. just don't take anyone normal down with you.
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#12
 2002-10-02, 08:07
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soulbros 
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Re: hitler/bush connection
hi there thanks for the interesting reading ...
i will not comment on the stupid answers some of the ppl posted but i would like to place a comment on what RAOVQ stated above since he at least took the time to write some lines even though i really cannot emphasize enough how stupid this comment is.
it is people like you that make the american system work and this makes me very sad. it is pretty hard for me as a german to see that people as stupid and dangerous as president bush can get elected in such powerful positions which poses a threat to the rest of the world. we had our share in history and we fortunatelly have learned of it.
you suggest to join the party and have some fun ... i suggest you either shoot yourself so your votecount gets lost or start using your brains, even though i must admit that most americans are not too good at this and you seem to be a part of the mighty brainless crowd. sad to see such a mighty nation does not have the self reflection needed to deal with the responsibility each of you carries ...
RAOVQ i disgust ppl that are as arrogant, self-centred and ignorant as you are ...
[This message has been edited by soulbros (edited 10-02-2002).]
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#13
 2002-10-02, 08:34
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Re: hitler/bush connection
good argument, but your logic is flawed, assuming that your two suppositions are fallacy free (which they aren't) lets look at the logical conclusions we can draw.
if bush A. Belongs to a Secretive Organization That funds itself through the drug trade
B. Has Family who have exploited the second world war for profit.
Then we don't have nearly enough evidence to suppose that
C.Dubwa is a facist intent on incredible evil.
all you need to do is look at his father, who also belonged to that same organization, and had the same family.
If you want to argue that A + B = C for The current bush, then you need to provide evidence to explain why the same A + B ne C in this case.
It's totally doable, you just need to be a little careful about how you draw your conclusions...
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#14
 2002-10-02, 11:38
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soulbros 
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Re: hitler/bush connection
good point jadedfool even though it does not really take much time to find more evidence for the above stated ...
i dunno how many ppl here frequently surf cryptome.org, here is a link to some intersting reading concerning the intentions of the bush administration ..
http://cryptome.org/rad.htm
have phun ...
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#15
 2002-10-02, 20:43
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likuidsmoke 
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Re: hitler/bush connection
Bushs ideology and intents are threatening the stability of the world right now. And given teh nature of such secret societies and organizations, this may be what they want for, well, whatever reasons.
G. H. Bush may have been the one that was behind the shooting of reagan, he definetly had powerful backing from the international community in the Persian Gulf Conflict. More than likely he was been behind the scenes during the Clinton Administration pulling strings here and there getting ready for the 2000 election where his heir to the throne, G. W. Bush would be installed as the most figureheaded man in the world.
It was during the election that the economy started to wobble, not that Gore would be much better (any prez who is trying to ignore the votes of the oversees military body is not for me), but if he was to actually win the election then so be it. But if by divine order the Supreme Court wa to overrule the constitution and get the US out of the Democratic rule of the Clinton/Gore regieme (or is the at the Hillary/Tipper regieme?) then so be it. the symbolisim here is thick, dense, and very dull grey.
My message to the political interests: Take what be yours and leave the rest so we can survive, its good to be alive but waitng for those to wake up can be long and trying.
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#16
 2002-10-02, 21:56
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Nox 
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Re: hitler/bush connection
quote: Originally posted by likuidsmoke: It was during the election that the economy started to wobble,
This is only true if you define the election as having started a year+ prior to the polling date. quote: Originally posted by likuidsmoke: not that Gore would be much better
Gore would have been far, far worse. I shudder to think of Al baby in charge on 9/11. quote: Originally posted by likuidsmoke: (any prez who is trying to ignore the votes of the oversees military body is not for me)
I totally agree. quote: Originally posted by likuidsmoke: But if by divine order the Supreme Court wa to overrule the constitution and get the US out of the Democratic rule of the Clinton/Gore regieme (or is the at the Hillary/Tipper regieme?) then so be it. the symbolisim here is thick, dense, and very dull grey.
You forget that the 'totally apolitical' Florida Supreme Court forced a US Supreme Court to get involved. We have a potentially parallel situation developing in New Jersey right now. What I find amazing about this is how the Democrats can take a totally opposite position in Hawaii. Nox
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#17
 2002-10-02, 22:52
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Mortose 
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Re: hitler/bush connection
Hmmhmm i agree with Jaded where is the evidence? But this shit with Iraq may have strengethin your point
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#18
 2002-10-02, 23:52
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Re: hitler/bush connection
What does Bush's membership have to do with imminent war in Iraq?
It's a fraternal organization for powerful people, in which the Bush family has held a membership since before George W's first hard-on. The influence of powerful people is what helped groomed 3 sons for the political arena. It's helped them build a financial empire. They aren't interested in becoming the next "Hitler", they want the next generation to be able to pick our pockets.
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