Hey ppl,
Just wanted to tell you about a little experince i had about 3 days ago. I am a big fan of FTP "File Transfer Protocol" the tool the ppl use to download shyt and Pirates use to get boot legs of the latest Britney Spears cd haha. But i was usin this the other day cause i heard there was a killer Wad on this one site. ( For those who dont know a wad is a Structer Of a game For like Doom ROTT Hertic all the good ol school games that i enjoy" So i went there and before i did that serach i looked for a Mp3 and a Quick time movie of Marylin Mansons "tainted love" well it was cool i got that but then i went on to serch for my WAD well i punced this in what comes up??
Precisly 547 Files of "10 YEAR OLD GET DADS WAD IN MOUTH!" i was all ok yea right. So i downoald like 4 of em simply cause I didnt think this HUGE corperation with over 1 million people sucribed to its free services would put of have that on there its agents the law plus Ppl will often "mask" there files on there to prevent people from takin all there shyt and slowing down there connection. Well i went to open them and what happend? Child Molestation City i started to vomit my sister ran into my old room where im currently at since i just got back from college when she ran in to fing me Spewing all over and yelling variuos words she too was horrified shes only 15. I have never been so disgusted in all my life. after regainng my state of mind i searched vbariouus things to Find that of the 14 differt serches that i did there are over 14,000 pictures and movies that state shild porn on them. For anyonee who reads this and is one of these sick satanic basterds i have a .357 waitin here for you This isnt right children are not ment to endure this especially the things they did that are posted there. Im wonreing if anyone has a soultion to stopping this i would like to make a Like uhh cant thinjk dammit um a list of com[platintss?(35 mins later) dammit im lost u know like ! A PETITIONN! there we go Knew i could do it! but i would make a page im only wonreing how many good sols out there would sing it?
Later Guys And Have faith One is just one but A lotta us will make a Impact.

A petition to stop Child Porn. Yeah, THAT'LL work...

God those people are sick.what the fuck is this world coming to.

could you give me the the address to that ftp
j/k yeah that is really fucked up

That post made my head hurt.

nothing much we can do, it will always be here, oh and if you here some fuck talking about some " awesome " chiln porn he downloaded punch him in the head

Kick em' for me too while your at it.

Who exactly are you going to send this petition to?

u actually vomitted whoa

After you downloaded the porn you did a search?

Why?

why dont you print of the ftp number, and anonymously give it to the police in your local area. they will then give it to their branch of the FBI.

in the mean time never visit there again.. Also get the fuck rid of all those pictures dude.

Your right it is disturbing, there is not much you can do about it though. Child abuse is kept behind a locked door or the sites become very underground,

Peace Renegade,

there is some weird shit on kazaa aswell

jdci

just dont click it

give the ftp to the poilce, or send it to the fbi or sumin.. it wont exactly end child porn but if ppl who come across it get it sorted out, thats one less site with that kinda sick twisted shit on it.

Piggaro you obivusly didnt hear one dam thing i said besides i didnt keep the file you sick freak. Btw i did send it to the police as a matter of fact i sent a copy of it the site address and there ip numbers to the FBI in Salt Lake City Utah. I didnt do a serach after i dowloaded it dumbass i serceh then downloaded the did some staticts onit. God Dam some peoples children.
-mortose

i think most of us know what ftp means and what a WAD or Mod file is.


As for children porn I think whoever gets caught with it should be put through a tree shredder.

If you reported the IP addresses you've already done what's necessary, and will be a far more effective than a petition.

the only people who ever seem to be caught with child porn are the ones who pay for it, and gary glitter of course.

Gary Glitter whilst being caught with the dirty stuff on his comp was still in process of having a court room fight over his underage sex convictions.

He was told he will win the battle and the papers people etc backed him.

Peace Renegade,

who the hell is Gary Glitter.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=gary+glitter&btnG=Google+Search

Gary Glitter's Cambodian visa is set to run out soon. The Cambodians have been urging him to go for some time (they don't want to promote their child sex industry). I'm sure he'll be made very welcome in Britain...

I already have my plans. After I take over the world "explained in another post" and everybody is living the life, I will walk across this fucking planet and kill them. I'm blowing up the nambla hq "and wherever else those fuckers are", the KKK is sooooo fucked, and everybody else that wants do do weird-ass shit about that. people like you can help me. I'll give you a weapon and a map to the sicko's house. Just a reminder, a max of 25 years until I have controle. we'll be livin' the life. c ya.

[This message has been edited by TheParkinator (edited 09-01-2002).]

It was a good idea to send it to the police, but how exactly does one think that whoever did it, couldn't just start up a new site somewhere else? I say find the kid and get him or her the hell out of there. What kind of sick perverted mind would to that to thier child?
But in truth, most of these children are orphans or abandoned. Even through those long screening processes, the worst person could look like a great canidate just because some front looks squeaky clean. I have an adopted brother of 12 and to think he could of gone to a person who would do that to a child is unreal.

First thing I'd like to say is that I'm not a child pornographer, and have no interest in child pornography.

But I think what needs to be said is that child *porn* - the porn itself - does no harm. It may not be your/my cup of tea, but there's plenty of porn out there that wouldn't interest either of us.
Fecal goat porn, for example.
I don't think child pornography creates child molesters, any more than regular porn creates rapists.

Molestation itself, however, is another case. It's rape, or sexual assault, or whatever, and I don't think we should treat it as anything else.

My brother likes to watch people eating shit in porn ~ shiteaters.....mmmmm gorilla shit has the best texture peanut buttery

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Originally posted by Craftian:
First thing I'd like to say is that I'm not a child pornographer, and have no interest in child pornography.

But I think what needs to be said is that child *porn* - the porn itself - does no harm. It may not be your/my cup of tea, but there's plenty of porn out there that wouldn't interest either of us.
Fecal goat porn, for example.
I don't think child pornography creates child molesters, any more than regular porn creates rapists.

Molestation itself, however, is another case. It's rape, or sexual assault, or whatever, and I don't think we should treat it as anything else.

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What if you saw your 5 year old daughter/sister on the internet?

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Originally posted by Ironz:
What if you saw your 5 year old daughter/sister on the internet?

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What if you saw your mom on the internet?

I know, it's not the same. If it was entirely softcore, just nude pictures, I'd be slightly disturbed.

Anything else... I don't know.

I think what we need to do is teach our children about sex and sexual things as soon as they're able to understand it.

That way we know they have a clear understanding of it, and will be able to knowingly consent or refuse, thus drawing a line.

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Originally posted by Craftian:
First thing I'd like to say is that I'm not a child pornographer, and have no interest in child pornography.

But I think what needs to be said is that child *porn* - the porn itself - does no harm. It may not be your/my cup of tea, but there's plenty of porn out there that wouldn't interest either of us.
Fecal goat porn, for example.
I don't think child pornography creates child molesters, any more than regular porn creates rapists.

Molestation itself, however, is another case. It's rape, or sexual assault, or whatever, and I don't think we should treat it as anything else.

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--------------------------------------------- At first I thought you were all right, but now I know that you are a worthless piece of shit that doesnt desrve to drink my piss! The very thought that you could condone child pornography just because it fits some sick assholes fetish makes you as ignorant as the bastards that are abusing their sons and daughters! If I thought for one sec that someone i know was making, soliciting, advocating or purchasing child porn i would string them from an oak treelimb by the genitals and slowly skin their worthless bodies and let them bleed to death. Then I would feed their remains to the wolves and coyotes that roam the mountains behind my house!

You should go kill yourself now!!!!!

Children are not physically ready for sexual intercourse untill the age of 12-13. Mentally ide say 15+, when something says daddy has sex with 6 year old, she is niether old enough to be consenious about it, nor is she physically ready. Children have other things they should be developing besides sex...

You said it! I think children(girls) solud have mini tazers inserted into them at birth to disrupt anyones attempt to try to abuse them! then it could be removed only by a doctor with childs and parents permission and never before puberty!

Damn i can be mean!

That's why I want to be an expert at computers, so I can use that power for good. I'll get into that ftp, delete every piece of pornography, and leave no trace.

-=MaTrIXSpiirit=-

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Originally posted by MaTrIXSpiirit:
That's why I want to be an expert at computers, so I can use that power for good. I'll get into that ftp, delete every piece of pornography, and leave no trace.

-=MaTrIXSpiirit=-

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I knew if I waited long enough id find some reason to like you matrix! Maybe someday we'll find some way to stop it! Until then we just have to become ruthless assholes to the people we catch! Its really not that hard to get rid of a dead body is it?

The best way to get rid of a body is to put them in a car trunk and deposit that car at the place were cars are shredded for recycling.

Child porn is sick, but if someone needs to get off on it, simulated (computer graphics or midgets) is legal.

If anyone gets into the ftp site, rather than deleting the files, completly shred the system cause more will be put up.

I understand that its just the way a person is, that they are attracted to children. Some people are attracted to dogs for gods sake and that is just the way people are but some people are so messed up that they need
*AN EXTEME AMOUNT OF PHYCO THERAPY OR OTHER TREATMENT* to help them with their *DANGEROUS* and *DESTRUCTIVE* condition.

I don't care what it would take but these people need to be cured. Think of it as a disease of the mind. These peoples brain chemistry is altered so severly that they are attracted to humans so much younger than them. In other cases they are attracted to animals or, well name a fetish, its not normal you could say. I call that a disease of their mind (or something along the line) and they need treatment. Pronto

-End of story.

Are you suggesting that pornography can cause a physiological change in brain chemistry similar to drug abuse?!

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Originally posted by Craftian:
But I think what needs to be said is that child *porn* - the porn itself - does no harm........

.........Molestation itself, however, is another case. It's rape, or sexual assault, or whatever, and I don't think we should treat it as anything else.

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Pictures and videos of children performing sex acts is a visual record of that child being sexually assaulted. The fact that you can profit from it is doing harm to children because it creates a demand for children to be molested, and for the profit of some sick piece of dog shit makes it 10 times worse.

I'd have to agree with the post Craftian made and i can see where he's coming from.

If i saw a picture of a child being molested, i'd not be happy, but the actual picture itself wouldn't harm me or make me like little children n a funny way.

What would get to me is the feelings of the poor child during that photo being taken.

I think the point is, if these photos could be made using advanced photo editing software etc etc, without real children being involved then the harm is taken away. Its not the actual looking at photos and child porn which is so bad, its the trade behind it.

Althougth don't think for one minute that this is my point of view or opinion. I think that even if you had 'fake' pictures, people would still want to abuse children.

yup kazaa has the MOSt sickening shit ever ... girlz getting fucked by there own pet dog`s little children forced to have sex it`s a whole viel in the depravity that is mankind *sights*
ohj and err Hi first post here just registered ...yes I`m a complete n00b *dun bash mah*

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Originally posted by Canyonero:
Pictures and videos of children performing sex acts is a visual record of that child being sexually assaulted.

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Yep, and that's bad.
Just guessing though, I'd say that the majority of it is simply nude pictures.

And of course there are even more ridiculous situations - people writing stories about molesting children getting sent to prison. How do stories hurt anyone?

As for all of this its wrong here yes and personally I think it should be wrong every where... in some countries its acceptable... you cant hate them for it its their society.. as for stories they dont harm anyone except for the rep of the person who wrote it. and if for soem reason you need to see children getting fcked Im sure theirs some hentai that will cover that

Hello Folks
"Tell me this PLEASE:"When one of these
Fucking Basterds get Busted they end up
getting 30 to 90 fucking Day..."But when
you Or I get busted for a OZ or TWO of some
nice Smoke We get 1 to 3years..."Now WHAT
the FUCK is up with that Shit?And doesn't
that give these Fucking Rat Cock sucker Mix
Missages..."Are the Courts telling the world
that Your a Bigger CROOK for Smoking alittle
WEED then Someone that is RAPING little KIDS?Think about this "HOW MANY PEOPLE that
you KNOW Got Busted with alittle weed and GOT less time then a Fucking Child Rapist.
"They alway seem to get less time...
"So here is what to do about it:"FUCK THE COPS and Take the MOTHER FUCKER to the WOODS
And Tie him Upside Down "NAKED"."Now Get some HONEY...Pour it Between his Legs.
Now Make sure you do it were there is alot of Bears and BEEs...Now Get #1 Leather Needles and Put them in ALL HIS JOINTS(INBETWEEN)"Put alittle Cuts on his Nuts.And Leave him there..."Make sure know one will Find him right alway..."100% this Fucking Goof will never Rape or Play with Children Again..."This is for you Fucks If you Ever Go near My Kids."I'LL brake everyone of your Bones.Then Cook your fucking feet first,then Legs,Then Asshole & Dick,Then YOU know.I'LL Cook you alittle at a time."Then after I'll give you to the HOGS
Or just Hang you in front of a Jail so all the Rest of the Fucking Child Rapists Can see what's coming Soon for them...

KHAINE

PS:And this is only the Start...

"Sex criminals. Completely incurable... I suppose you could outlaw religion and these sex crimes would disappear in a generation or two, but we don't have time for rational solutions."

--George Carlin

Every once and awile you hear this shit in the news or papers A 35 year old man broke into a house and stole some things and while he was in there he raped a 65 year old Woman i wana say to him WHY?!?!? WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF A SOCAIL LIFE DOES THIS GUY HAVE? i wana say what the fuck were u thinkin? "Well we were danicin and i got horny i mean come on it was her fault she had on a tight bath robe!" CANT YOU BE A LITTLE MORE FUCKING SLECTIVE NEXT TIME JESUS!
-George Carlin November 21 2001 at the HBO SPECIAL George carlin Live

Just thought i would add that lol and by the way thanks for bringing my post back to life

-Mortose

Meh, child porn...so what? Theres worse shit out there.

There are a lot of fucked up people out there. A couple of years ago, in Belgium, there was this guy who was caught for molesting at least a dozen kids... and all of them died, except for two.

And those two poor girls wished they HAD died, so seriously messed up are they now. I mean, they can't stand being hugged by their own fathers, for Christ's sake!

The guy and his henchmen are in prison now... in total isolation because the moment that they're put in general population, the other inmates will have a field day. They promised...

I say: do even better. Announce in the papers, and on TV and radio and shit WHEN and WHERE they'll be set free.

Then issue free whips, blunt knives and other stuff that can be really painful when used right, and issue a couple of courses on how to hurt someone. Really fuck them over and not kill them, if you know what I mean.

I HATE THOSE GUYS.

I wonder what the statistics look like regarding porn images, those involving children and adults, being used as stimulation by adults who as children were molested?

Similarly what percentage of adults molested when they were children fantasize about similar situations as adults and, w/ re. to the fantasy, to whom, child or adult, do they relate?

I think that when a child participates albeit the inability to know what is really right, wrong or damaging, willingly in sexual relations with an adult, that the damage done to them varies a great deal from the damage done to children who are actually radically and immediately traumatized by being violently violated and/or physically assaulted by adults.

The sickness of thought that incorporates hurting, terrorizing even ultimately killing a child or any other party to a non-consensual sexual act is something that I cannot fathom. No one guilty of carrying out such acts should ever be released from prison. Anyone who can be justly accused of finding this stuff stimulating should have to volunteer for castration or lobotomy or the implantation of an audibly beeping gps transmitter implanted into their person, yeah, I think that would be a good idea for pedophiles in general gps's surgically keistered and a homeland security department to track them and swoop on the last know location should, for some reason ,the signal stop, the response time should be able to be 3min or less from cessation of signal to location and detainment of subject, and when the emergency loss of signals were not occupying them, they ought to be out doing spot checks to make sure the "audible to all" beeping noise has not been disabled, also if they want to complain about not being able to sleep with the noise, then they should be surgically deafened in as much as nothing they ever heard did them a damn bit of good anyway, yeah, I think that would be a good way around the problem of being prosecuted for actually going out and murdering them, because even if it's the best thing to do, there is still a detrimental effect on society when otherwise decent people resort to the same acts of violence that, fundamentally they oppose.

What subject matter serves to arouse an individual is no ones business but their own and whom so ever they may opt to share it with in a consensual context, it is ridiculous to presume the right to judge another persons unspoken and unacted-upon thoughts. The dynamics of fantasy employed as a means to sexual gratification are far too diverse to try and categorize into clear cut rights and wrongs for the masses. i.e. "Cumming for Dummies", not-

I don't think that the official access to electronic communication increased after 9/11 was really legitimate in terms of wanting to curb terrorism, in fact since it passed so quickly and expeditiously when there, to the best of my knowledge, was still no provision drawn up to allow for officials to search the premesis or person of an individual who was reported after asking to learn how to steer a commercial jet, not take off or land, just steer, actually reported to the government who, ostensibly holds as it's primary concern, the safety of it's citizens, and a government who was at that time unable, unwilling, uninterested in pursuing that complaint.......passes into law the electronic surveillience thing, but nothing to do with being able to check the next time a guy like that gets reported, sure, now they've got the "Are You A Possible Terrorist?" laws, but since they got that other one to fly, they ought to use it for homeland security in the arena of this violent, seemingly or actually realistic depictions of violence, snuff involving children, maybe violence and snuff period, I bet if there were a law whereby the measure was put to the public of "should an agency be created to conduct surveillance, interdiction, investigation and prosecution of persons known(by electronic monitoring of interest and frequency of patronization of known websites, criminal history, judicial referral or whatever "gets them into the system" said agency operating in the interest of homeland security and employing all right granted under the swiftly enacted bill of Sept. 2001....Pledging almost sappily, but hey, to eat the shit they feed us now, a little sap would be good for the soul, anyway, pledging not to exploit or misuse these powers and understanding that the matter of child abuse in this realm is a matter of national security, having provisions set up to check unrelated prosecutions, generated or substantiated by electronic surveillance and provide for acceptable grievance, accountability measures to be in place...I bet that would get very wide spread support. Especially if there was a separate but related proposal to create an office of impartial accountability, created specifically to protect the security of the bill of rights with it's foundation openly acknowledging the fear, yes, FEAR(that's what they're drawing on now anyway) of the American people that in some ways those rights may being slowly circumvented, and created in the spirit of public service to protect our rights and acknowldege that we are free to think what we want and fear what we will and utilize our government rather than visa-versa.
Nobody should be against the child-protection via electronic snooping agency.
Anyone who is should be placated by clearly stated objectives and disclosure of means to be employed in reaching those objectives.

The agency to protect the bill of rights would likely be assailed by all those who for one reason or another fear it, however if presented properly the arguments of creating a new bueracracy blah, blah...would be resoundlingly countered by intelligent illumination of the ways current bueracracies have contributed to justifiable fears of all sorts and incorporate in it's structure a grass roots staffing, training, recruitment system whereby certain functions of the department would be available to the public, online 24/7 in an effort to provide accountability, venue for constructive criticism, community input and educational data relevant to many areas of responsible citizenship.

Stuff like that.

ummm yes, theyre called paragraphs and stuff like that costs a lot of money and most people say 'yeah, they suck' but no-one wants to pay for it cos really they couldnt give a shit.

Ive sent guite a few Kazaa addys to the FBI when i found out they were carrying sick shit. i even got "ME FUCKING MY R5D OLD SISTER" out of kazza

YAY!