About two and a half years ago I was talking with my Japanese chemistry teacher and we were talking about disease and natural selection, etc...very renaissance type guy he was at the time. We talked about how diseases don't thrive in non-human populations as opposed to...uh..humans.

Example: A rabbitt has diabedes. The little dude feels ill then toddles off into the forest to die. He may or may not have had babies. Assuming he did, his kids will have a greater chance of having and dying of diabedes. If he didn't then, all the better for the gene pool.

This is where I come in. Every morning in the shower I analyze what happened the previous day - who I met, how they acted, trying to understand why they think the way they do, judge people, I could keep going but I'm boring myself. Thank you for reading this far.

I've had severe anxiety disorders since puberty, and subsequent depression because of the anxiety. Should I do the human race a favor and have nothing come of me?

unlike trog you miserable bag of snot.

Every human should reproduce, keeps veriety going. Nobody want's a bunch of boring perfect idiots.
Have fun and have sex.

Oh, btw, the rabbit couldn't of had babbies, it's a guy, but I know where you were getting at.

-=MaTrIXSpiirit=-

Everyone with a genetic disease should get a vasectomy or a tubal.
My opinion, wanna make something of it?

Thanks for those replies and let me add something. We were talking about treating my mother for breast cancer and little kids that get cured of luklemnia. My mom had my sister before she developed breast cancer (BTW it was articifical anti-menopause estrogen that gave her cancer). My mother didn't know she was going to have cancer. What what about those little bitch kids that are going to have five to ten babies and keep childhood lukeminia alive?

I understood what you said about perfect idiots MaTrIXSpiirit. It's kind of like that example in Brave New World. Where they put all the alphas on an island and they ended up killing each other because no one wanted to do the 'dirty' work.

Phantom: What do you mean dude?

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Originally posted by Lokil:
Thanks for those replies and let me add something. We were talking about treating my mother for breast cancer and little kids that get cured of luklemnia. My mom had my sister [b]before she developed breast cancer (BTW it was articifical anti-menopause estrogen that gave her cancer). My mother didn't know she was going to have cancer. What what about those little bitch kids that are going to have five to ten babies and keep childhood lukeminia alive?

I understood what you said about perfect idiots MaTrIXSpiirit. It's kind of like that example in Brave New World. Where they put all the alphas on an island and they ended up killing each other because no one wanted to do the 'dirty' work.

Phantom: What do you mean dude?[/B]

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Ohhhhh thats why you're such a little shithead snibbling coward in need of mommies money and affection. She didnt breast feed you because she lost her titty after having it removed for cancer?

Oh people.. before you react towards me harshy, our little friend loki poki had made a calous remark towards me about my wife. Telling me he hopes she developes cancer of her reproductive system. My wife has never said anything towards lokil She doesnt agree with me half the time and shouldnt reflect any of my former comments towards anyone on TOTSE. yet lokil decided to attack her in his own childish way hoping to push my buttons.

Lokil, here is a reality check. No matter how much steroids you take, no matter how much crank or angel dust or how much you work out. I will always be more of a man then you. You better hope we never meet. I will show little mercy towards you. And dont think I dont know about your pathetic attemps to find out where I live through a P.I. Agency.

You are a coward and a loner. You have no real friends because you dont know how to find a true friend. All your friends are shallow and evil hearted as yourself and You will die alone just like you came into this world. cold and empty.

take care malcie

I dont think every human should reproduce, but for the special few, go ahead...

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Rabbits cant get diabedes.

I mean, anyone who has been identified as a carrier of a genetic disease should be made sterile, via a vasectomy or tubal, the human version of neutered or spayed.

I don't exclude myself. I do want children someday, but I would never want to inflict sickle cell on them if I carried it.


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I have diabetes and it bothers me with the injections,eating at specific times,blood test and eating and not eating specific things.

But you have to chill about it - shit happens as they say.

But one thing bothers me, when im older i want to have a family and i dont wanna let them inherit the condition. So i understand its a worry lokil and i know exactly where your coming from. But no dont end life its to beautifull to let go. Want to be inspired watch American Beauty in my opinion it is one of the best films that makes you think and the director was right "life is beautifull".

Peace Renegade,

Diabetic people don't necessarily have diabetic children..

Your logic is flawed lokil. There are genetic aberrations that make it easier to live under certain conditions.. take for example, sickle cell anaemia. Anyone who carries just one gene for that, is basically immune to malaria. Yet sickle cell anaemia is a terrible, awful condition... At any point, when you decide to remove genetically "inferior" lines from the gene pool, you run the risk of homogenising the gene pool so much that humanity cannot withstand changing conditions, or new diseases or illnesses..

Personally, I don't want to reproduce. Get married, maybe. If we really want kids, adoption. I don't want to have to raise a kid, because: one, raising a kid with the proper attitude about the world would probably be considered child abuse, and two, I want to do my part to lower world population. See, another thing that pisses me off, with adoption shelters for cats and dogs, typically after 30 days they're put down. But humans, oh, well WE must be fucking special! No euthanasia for us! Not even for the sick and dying! We must be so much fucking better than cats and dogs! Feh. I have expressed my opinion.

Every human being should not reproduce. Parents never punish their kids, and treat them like friends. Just today as a matter of fact, a local family was walking along the sidewalk in front of my apartment, and the kid, who looked to be about 11 or 12, whips has dick out and pisses on the wall of another building, right there, in front of everyone. The parents did not stop it. Kids aren't some expensive bag or clothes you can impress your friends with then put them away for years. If you can't raise them, then don't have them. There is a purpose to birth control.

i think everyone or nearly everyone should reproduce at least once. the last person to think of selective reproduction was ummm, Adolf Hitler. Also if you do have a disease which could be passed to your babies then you should not reproduce, because then the diease just continues.

Good Day Children

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Diabetic people don't necessarily have diabetic children..

Your logic is flawed lokil. There are genetic aberrations that make it easier to live under certain conditions.. take for example, sickle cell anaemia. Anyone who carries just one gene for that, is basically immune to malaria. Yet sickle cell anaemia is a terrible, awful condition... At any point, when you decide to remove genetically "inferior" lines from the gene pool, you run the risk of homogenising the gene pool so much that humanity cannot withstand changing conditions, or new diseases or illnesses..

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I agree. There is little sense in drying up the gene pool. My eyesight is poor; I wear glasses. Yet I won't think twice about not having children. The problem is that fucked up people are only reproducing other fucked up people. There needs to be a better blending of genetics for the gene pool to thrive. Personally, I'll do my part and impregnate a supermodel if I have to

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Originally posted by Joe Boo:
Every human being should not reproduce. Parents never punish their kids, and treat them like friends. Just today as a matter of fact, a local family was walking along the sidewalk in front of my apartment, and the kid, who looked to be about 11 or 12, whips has dick out and pisses on the wall of another building, right there, in front of everyone. The parents did not stop it. Kids aren't some expensive bag or clothes you can impress your friends with then put them away for years. If you can't raise them, then don't have them. There is a purpose to birth control.

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I'm with Mr. Boo, half the kids in my neighborhood are wasting valuable air that could be going into tires and balloons. Hell, just this summer the kid next door (we'll call him....Satan) set the woods on fire, turned off the gas to a few houses, bounced more than one rock of my windshield ("totally by accident"), taught his little brother how to stand in the street and scream at 7am, and just gives me the creeps every time I see his sorry little ass.

All this when his father only had to come to my door and I would have gladly given him the money to go and buy a condom.

trog, shoot yourself you retrograde waste of skin.

I just read the later part. trog, you should still shoot yourself.

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Originally posted by Renegade:
I have diabetes and it bothers me with the injections,eating at specific times,blood test and eating and not eating specific things.

But you have to chill about it - shit happens as they say.

But one thing bothers me, when im older i want to have a family and i dont wanna let them inherit the condition. So i understand its a worry lokil and i know exactly where your coming from. But no dont end life its to beautifull to let go. Want to be inspired watch American Beauty in my opinion it is one of the best films that makes you think and the director was right "life is beautifull".

Peace Renegade,

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renegade,

Did you inherit diabeties or did you get it from another disease? my wife got diabeties from chicken pox which destroyed her pancreas

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All this when his father only had to come to my door and I would have gladly given him the money to go and buy a condom.

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lol just a few cents to prevent the little shits from popping out. What i really enjoy doing is telling the little shits that the reason they were born was that the condom broke. Most are ten years old, can't spell their name, yet know what a condom is. Thanks Joycelyn Elders.

ther ea re 2 thingsd with diabetes if u get it at old age that means u are fat! and so your children will have diabetes but they wont be fat beacuse they wont be able to or else they'll die so i guess diabetes is natures way of making fat people have "normal" children

pce

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ther ea re 2 thingsd with diabetes if u get it at old age that means u are fat! and so your children will have diabetes but they wont be fat beacuse they wont be able to or else they'll die so i guess diabetes is natures way of making fat people have "normal" children

pce

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There is two types of diabeties. Juvenile and Adult.

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There is two types of diabeties. Juvenile and Adult.

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fat related as well.

Adult is the fat related one. Most think that eating too much sugar gives you juvenile type

that�s part of the adult ...

There is 2 types of diabetes, Type one which i have where you become insulin dependant. And type 2 due to diet - food has to be watched like type one. Tablets are given for type 2.

Peace Renegade,

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Originally posted by Renegade:
There is 2 types of diabetes, Type one which i have where you become insulin dependant. And type 2 due to diet - food has to be watched like type one. Tablets are given for type 2.

Peace Renegade,

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Have you heard anything about the Inhalent Insulin?

I have i havent really been spoken about it though.

Peace Renegade,

my mum found out that she had type to diabetes when she was 40.

hmm no great news for the family was it

If your mom as fat as you?

The way I see it people who are carriers of serious genetic diseases should not breed. In fact people should have a test for all testable genetic diseases before being allowed to breed.

Achondroplasia
Achromatopsia
Acid Maltase Deficiency
Adrenoleukodystrophy
Aicardi Syndrome
Alpha-1 Antitrypsin Deficiency
Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome
Apert Syndrome
Arrhythmogenic Right Ventricular Dysplasia
Ataxia Telangiectasia
Blue Rubber Bleb Nevus Syndrome
Canavan Disease
Cri Du Chat Syndrome
Cystic Fibrosis
Dercum's Disease
Fanconi Anemia
Fibrodysplasia Ossificans Progressiva
Fragile X Syndrome
Galactosemia
Gaucher Disease
Hemochromatosis
Hemophilia
Huntington's Disease
Hurler Syndrome
Hypophosphatasia
Klinefelter Syndrome
Krabbes Disease
Langer-Giedion Syndrome
Leukodystrophy
Long QT Syndrome
Marfan Syndrome
Moebius Syndrome
Mucopolysaccharidosis (MPS)
Nail Patella Syndrome
Nephrogenic Diabetes Insipidus
Neurofibromatosis
Niemann-Pick Disease
Osteogenesis Imperfecta
Porphyria
Prader-Willi Syndrome
Progeria
Proteus Syndrome
Retinoblastoma
Rett Syndrome
Rubinstein-Taybi Syndrome
Sanfilippo Syndrome
Shwachman Syndrome
Sickle Cell Disease
Smith-Magenis Syndrome
Stickler Syndrome
Tay-Sachs
Thrombocytopenia Absent Radius (TAR) Syndrome
Treacher Collins Syndrome
Trisomy
Tuberous Sclerosis
Turner's Syndrome
Urea Cycle Disorder
von Hippel-Lindau Disease
Waardenburg Syndrome
Williams Syndrome
Wilson's Disease

Just to name a few.

Then again, in a few years we will be able to do genetic surgery on fetuses, and can eliminate these diseases that way.