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 #1 
Old 2002-08-04, 12:41
Global Dominator Global Dominator is offline
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Default Israel vs. Palestine: Just nuke them both?

Saw on the news this morning where yet another bus got blown up by Mr. Suicide Bomberman. I got to thinking, years ago I wondered why Israel didn't just give the Palestinians what they wanted just so they would shut the hell up. Then after 9/11 and seeing the Palestinians dancing in the streets after the attack I changed my attitude and thought whatever Israel wanted to do was perfectly fine with me.

Now, after having to watch this shit day in, day out, I say lets give the Palestinians a few tacticals to make it even and let them vaporize each other. They've only been talking peace for 54-55 years and anyone can see the end is nowhere in sight.

I once thought that the ratio of dead Jews to dead Arabs on any given day was always going in the Jews favor, they always kill more Arabs than the Arabs kill Jews, but all this is taking too damn long. We supplied Israel with the stuff to make nukes and now we need to even the score and give the Palestinians the same sword. Even things up and then you will see some progress, nothing like the impending annilation of your race to kick you in the ass and get you moving.
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Old 2002-08-04, 13:05
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I'm strongly opposed to anything that could possibly raise the price of gas. Other than that I don't care what they do. It's all about the "my god has a bigger dick than your god" shit.
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Old 2002-08-04, 13:34
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that is fucked up dude
im guessing you are not thinking about the hundreds of thousands of innocent civillian lives lost, there may not be a war in your country, but it dont mean you shouldnt care about others.
how can you say that them dancing in the streets made you angry when you want to nuke their entire population. you fucking americans are all too rich and too fat, so go lose weight before you start talking to me like that.
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Old 2002-08-04, 13:56
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Originally posted by louis:
that is fucked up dude
im guessing you are not thinking about the hundreds of thousands of innocent civillian lives lost, there may not be a war in your country, but it dont mean you shouldnt care about others.
how can you say that them dancing in the streets made you angry when you want to nuke their entire population. you fucking americans are all too rich and too fat, so go lose weight before you start talking to me like that.



As opposed to the hundreds of thousands already lost?

This from a guy who lives in the country that is most at fault for starting it all? Have we forgotten Britan gave Palestine to the Israelis, without so much as a "hey, is this ok with you Arabs?", and started this whole ball rolling?

Let me be frank, THERE WILL NEVER BE PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST, not when both sides say the land is theirs and they will kill anyone to reach that end. I'm just saying lets not drag this out, we can settle this in a weekend and get on with the business of the world, and never have to listen to a couple of "little bitch" wannabes ever again about how "this land is ours".

And about that rich, fat, Americans crack, as I believe you say in England: PISS OFF, WANKER.

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Old 2002-08-04, 14:11
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All of you must remember, the press likes to make things worse than they really are. I have a couple relatives visiting me right now from Israel. They tell me that if anyone were to visit Israel that didn't live there, it would be extremely hard for them to tell anything was amiss, unless they were an actualy part of a suicide bombing. For the Israels, all of the bombs are everyday life, allthough it <i>has</i> gotten worse over the past few years.

To let Israel and Palestine nuke each other is an extremely poorly thought notion. You have obviously forgotten how valuable these two contires are. Israel, with the world's leading technology, and Palestine, with its much needed oil. Next time, before coming up with an idea like that, <b>for any country,</b> go visit that country and then tell us of your ideas.
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Old 2002-08-04, 14:13
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Shut the hell up, you fucking beefeater wanking queen-fucker asswipe, and don't bitch at us about the average american being overweight. And how the fuck can we be "too rich?" Being rich is a good thing. You're just fucking jealous.

And yes, there will be peace in the middle east. When we turn it into a fucking glass parking lot.

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Old 2002-08-04, 14:25
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This is a mad post to come back to after work. Oh well, Its all a little crazy now isnt it ? The country's opposing are fighting for virtually the same things.

Peace Renegade
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Old 2002-08-04, 14:30
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fuck I just typed out this whole message and it said I was flooding and when i backed up to the previous page all my post was gone.

Here I go again. Islam wants to dominate to world. In a sense Israel is a buffer for peace by being in control. You allow islam to over power Israel and it takes that entire area over. Islam is the fastest growing religion on earth. It will dominate the world. and it will enforce its laws onto us. Dont laugh. It could be like the Spanish Inquisition all over again only muslims will do the torturing.

When suddam builds his first few nukes (Assuming he hasnt already) he will join palestine (as he has promised in the past) and he wont think twice about using them. I can say this because I have seen Suddam act out aggresivly in the past and I know he has nothing to lose now that he is getting older and his health is getting worst. He is a martre and he has to go out with a big bang.

Israel has a few bad seeds. Occasionally an israely army guy will shoot civilians in the heat of a battle and or even Sharon himself is guilty of such crimes. But every nation has had these problems. The bottom line is Israel is a buffer zone. If israel did not control that region of the world your radical muslim groups would kill any jews, pagans or christians in that region if they refused to convert or move out. These people are the scummiest people on the face of the earth. It makes me laugh that Liberal Groups are striking out against israel and supporting a race of peoples who culture has no respect for women or children or certain muslims tribes who are considered inferior to the higher class. They dont have freedom of thought or religion outside their own. If you allowed them to kill off Jews and Christians and Athiest they would then turn on each other for dominance in the region. But for now all muslims are fighting a common goal and support each other. when that goal is acomplished then they cut each others throats. This is not racist of me to say this. This has been proven for over a thousand years. Muslims have no respect for one another let alone outside their beliefs. Do Not Support Islam because it does not support you. All these "Westernized Muslims" who dont practice their true relgion in America are lying to people saying "All muslims are not like that". But the truth is to be a real muslims is to be anti anything NOT muslim. Women must cover their entire bodies and men are to pray 5 times a day and if Christians and Jews do not see them as a hire religion and pay them taxes and respect their culture then an Islamic person can take a sword to the "Infedel" and cut him down like a flower.

I support Israel 100%. Partly because its my christian duty and partly for my own personal experiences.

Suddam is a huge threat right now. People that have defected from his nuke program said he is really really close to completing his job of making nukes. 2005 is the projected date but as many of you know that can swing either way. He could have them as early as next year (If not already) or 2007 but at some point Suddam is gonna have them and will use them. Why are we waiting? good weather? fuck this let roll in right now.
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Old 2002-08-04, 15:47
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Originally posted by tr0g:
fuck I just typed out this whole message and it said I was flooding and when i backed up to the previous page all my post was gone.

Here I go again. Islam wants to dominate to world. In a sense Israel is a buffer for peace by being in control. You allow islam to over power Israel and it takes that entire area over. Islam is the fastest growing religion on earth. It will dominate the world. and it will enforce its laws onto us. Dont laugh. It could be like the Spanish Inquisition all over again only muslims will do the torturing.

When suddam builds his first few nukes (Assuming he hasnt already) he will join palestine (as he has promised in the past) and he wont think twice about using them. I can say this because I have seen Suddam act out aggresivly in the past and I know he has nothing to lose now that he is getting older and his health is getting worst. He is a martre and he has to go out with a big bang.

Israel has a few bad seeds. Occasionally an israely army guy will shoot civilians in the heat of a battle and or even Sharon himself is guilty of such crimes. But every nation has had these problems. The bottom line is Israel is a buffer zone. If israel did not control that region of the world your radical muslim groups would kill any jews, pagans or christians in that region if they refused to convert or move out. These people are the scummiest people on the face of the earth. It makes me laugh that Liberal Groups are striking out against israel and supporting a race of peoples who culture has no respect for women or children or certain muslims tribes who are considered inferior to the higher class. They dont have freedom of thought or religion outside their own. If you allowed them to kill off Jews and Christians and Athiest they would then turn on each other for dominance in the region. But for now all muslims are fighting a common goal and support each other. when that goal is acomplished then they cut each others throats. This is not racist of me to say this. This has been proven for over a thousand years. Muslims have no respect for one another let alone outside their beliefs. Do Not Support Islam because it does not support you. All these "Westernized Muslims" who dont practice their true relgion in America are lying to people saying "All muslims are not like that". But the truth is to be a real muslims is to be anti anything NOT muslim. Women must cover their entire bodies and men are to pray 5 times a day and if Christians and Jews do not see them as a hire religion and pay them taxes and respect their culture then an Islamic person can take a sword to the "Infedel" and cut him down like a flower.

I support Israel 100%. Partly because its my christian duty and partly for my own personal experiences.

Suddam is a huge threat right now. People that have defected from his nuke program said he is really really close to completing his job of making nukes. 2005 is the projected date but as many of you know that can swing either way. He could have them as early as next year (If not already) or 2007 but at some point Suddam is gonna have them and will use them. Why are we waiting? good weather? fuck this let roll in right now.



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Old 2002-08-04, 16:27
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I don't think Islam could win a religious war against the world. Asia wouldn't take kindly to it, and if these stupid countries trying to force Islam started a war with anyone for religious purposes, I am sure all of Asia will be there with us to stop them.

Christian duty? I feel bad for you.
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Old 2002-08-04, 17:04
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peace is not goign to happen.

let me pose a question to you, if you were isreali and a palestinian killed your son, brother, mother, father, or wife would you ever forgive them? i certainly wouldnt, i would make the purpose of my life to avenge thier death at all costs. no sane person can say that they would be for peace after they killed one of your own. i would never forgive them and i doubt you righteous peace wankers would either if you were put in the same situation.
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Old 2002-08-04, 17:18
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Originally posted by tr0g:
If israel did not control that region of the world your radical muslim groups would kill any jews, pagans or christians in that region if they refused to convert or move out.


Bullshit. Non-muslims get treated like second-class citizens, that's all.
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Old 2002-08-04, 19:46
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The palistinians parting in the street after 9-11 was media bullshit. The fotage was actualy from a festival several months before.

Isrialis and Palistinians have been fighting for 3000 years. Of course 50 years of trying for peace won't work. Especialy when the governments didn't do anything to enforce their position. Now they have started to take what I consider an effective stance. Them majority of the population is set in their beleifs, but now they are trying the teach tolerence to the children. If they keep this up in another 50 years their leaders will be todays youth. And hopefuly more likely to listen to the other side.

It's all about changing society itself, and that takes time.
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Old 2002-08-04, 21:02
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It was for the most part Apartied South Africa (Gasp! Those racist fucks!) and possibly Taiwan, that Israel developed the majority of it's nukes. Though it was the U.S. that give the material and the instructions for it
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Old 2002-08-04, 22:30
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Originally posted by Prometheus:
The palistinians parting in the street after 9-11 was media bullshit. The fotage was actualy from a festival several months before.




Not so big guy, that was revelry for the sake of their Muslim brothers striking against the "evil" United States. Why else would the Palestinian Spokesperson/lady be on nationwide tv that night apologizing for us having to watch it? "Don't take this out of context" she said. "Those were just a few of our people who didn't know what they were doing". Well, it looked like a 'few' hundred to me, and they all looked like they knew exactly what they were doing. I say let God or Allah sort them out.

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Old 2002-08-04, 23:15
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I would have to say Israel is mostly to blame here. Of course, other people have different perspectives, but looking at the history of the past 50 years or so, since the creation of Israel, Israel with the support of an indifferent America has, for the most part, been responsible for prolonging the conflict.

Jews settle in Palestine, and take away the majority of the land in the creation of Israel, then expand by creating settlements in Palestinian lands in violation of the agreements betw. Palestine and Israel.

Then the butcher Sharon marginalizes the chosen leadership of the Palestinian people, and occupies more land. The Israelis are so caught up with the Masada complex that they continue to think that they are the only victims.

Not much can happen unless Israel yields territory.

peace out.
sph3ric pyramid.
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Old 2002-08-05, 00:34
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Originally posted by user X:
Bullshit. Non-muslims get treated like second-class citizens, that's all.


umm no. There are many accounts of Christians being slaughtered in Afghanastan and even in jordon and parts of palestine.
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Old 2002-08-05, 02:13
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Ok first every thing im gonna say is based on 100% accurate documented informatioon so i got proof so u cant tell meits bullshit so ok

the "Palestinians" are not really a people at all and many of them are actually arabs from Syria, Jordan,Lebanon and Egypt,The name Palestinian which the British gave to the arabs living in what was at that time called "Palestine" or present day Israel, actually comes from the Philistines who are in no way related to the arabs living in Israel today at all.In fact many other arabs consider "Palestinians" a lower class then themselves,and when the Palestinians wanted to come into Jordan King Hussein would not allow them to do so.The fact is most Arabs hate Jews and Sadaam Hussein pays the familys of "Palestinian" homicide(suicide) bombers and in 1992 when the U.S was at war with Iraq,Sadaam fired 32 missiles at Israel and he'd be more then willing to use a nuke;i mean do u really think he cares if "Palestinians" die he just want more dead Jews and i'm not saying hey I hate Arabs ,all Arabs are evil because that is just as wrong, but however anyone intending to do harm to others based solely on race ethnical backround nationallity or religious beleif is just as fucked up as Osama bin Laden or Hitler.And the facts are the United States has the right to defend its self why not Israel?

All of the "Palestinians" claims of rightfull ownership of Israel are false and they have no proof at all of it.They say Jerusalem is a holy city to them and it is,however Jerusalem has oonly minor signiagnce to them compared to as it does to the Jews.The Palestinians consider Jerusalem to be there 3rd holiest city after Mecca and Medina;to the Jews it is the holiset city.The city is mentioned over 600 times in The Torah,the Jews Holy Book,and not once in the Islamic holy book,The Koran.
Since Sept. 2000, 606 Israelis have been murdered and 4479 have been seriously injured by "Palestinian" terrorists.If the US keeps condemning Israel for defending itself do u really think in a few years from now things will be differmt here(the US)in israel malls have armed guards in the US think of how easily a terrorist can walk into a mall and detonate explosives taking the lives of innocent american civilians.neway if u have any comments u can post them or im me on my aim sn galil762mm
peace out
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Old 2002-08-05, 03:11
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First of: How would you like YOUR ASS NUKED? You think it's fun?!? Hey kid, you don't know what your talking about. Nuclear War IS NOT FUN, you think it's like a regular bomb? Well guess what it's not. I have actually experienced one and it's not fun. Nuclear war will eventually get the world killed just hope that this doesn't happen in your life time.

*(When I was in my sleep I had a VERY INTENSE DREAM about a terrible war, something I couldn't explain. It was like, the entire world was at war, the sky was black. I remember I was watching through t.v. and seeing the war, the reporter saying "Please, it is advized that you stay in your home and remain there at all times through this time of war...." I can't remember the rest. Then somebody told me my mom had been killed by one of the bomb attacks... =( All I did was wake up)*

-=MaTrIXSpiirit=-
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Old 2002-08-05, 03:11
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First of: How would you like YOUR ASS NUKED? You think it's fun?!? Hey kid, you don't know what your talking about. Nuclear War IS NOT FUN, you think it's like a regular bomb? Well guess what it's not. I have actually experienced one and it's not fun. Nuclear war will eventually get the world killed just hope that this doesn't happen in your life time.

*(When I was in my sleep I had a VERY INTENSE DREAM about a terrible war, something I couldn't explain. It was like, the entire world was at war, the sky was black. I remember I was watching through t.v. and seeing the war, the reporter saying "Please, it is advized that you stay in your home and remain there at all times through this time of war...." I can't remember the rest. Then somebody told me my mom had been killed by one of the bomb attacks... =( All I did was wake up)*

-=MaTrIXSpiirit=-
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Old 2002-08-05, 04:31
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Nuclear War IS NOT FUN, you think it's like a regular bomb? Well guess what it's not. I have actually experienced one and it's not fun.


dreams are not actualy expereancing something.

Any nuclear war would be over with in about an hour. That's how long it would take to obliterate so many people that there is no one left to fight.
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Old 2002-08-05, 05:27
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The affinity for the belief that there is only one true religion has been the one of the worst things humanity has come up with. Most major patriarchal religions share this beleif an it has been responsible for more wars and deaths than anything else I can think of. Spanish inquisition, european and american witch hunts, the methodical raping and pillaging of native cultures from africa to the americas to australia, to the current hatfeild and mccoy thing going on in the middle east. Until people are willing to abandon this thoughtform, we will continue to kill each other by the millions.
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Old 2002-08-05, 14:40
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To me there fighting for exactly the same things. POWER.

Thats all i have to say.

Peace Renegade,
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Old 2002-08-05, 18:22
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hey , i just think that it will take a long time 4 there 2 b peace in the middle east.

and i do think that guy from london is right, YOU yanks are to fat and over fed.

america should just stay out of it and let Israel and Palestine sort it out them selfs.

i`m out PEACE.
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Old 2002-08-05, 23:13
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and i do think that guy from london is right, YOU yanks are to fat and over fed.




You yanks? I hope your a limey as well as him.
 
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