once again this is a very serious Questiion.

Why did the new head of FBI say he was taking all his agents off of all the old cases such as Kidnapping and Drug smuggling and giving those cases to local law informents (Which is out of their jurisdiction) and putting everyone on Anti Terrorism?

I dont think this is a move to encourage people to have confidence in the FBI, but rather a Huge red flag to warn us all that Bush knows something very serious.

look at the signs. We now know Bush had prior knowledge of what was to happen to the WTCs.We all know that days after. As funny as this sounds Art Bell had a former CIA agent as a guess on his show talk about president Bushs reaction on Airforce one. This rumor was widely circulated. I know Art Bell is just some Paranoid Sensationalist but he often has a credible Guess on his show.

What is happening here. I mean so what if india and Pakistan make up and kiss. In 1 or 3 years down the road, these 2 idiot countries will lock horns again. You guys know this as I know it. we are at a boiling point on this planet. Never in History have we had so many threats againts the US. It was much safer to live under constant fear of the soviets during the cold war.

We also know Bush is waiting for Pakistan and India to clean their shit up so he can rally support for a suddam invasion.

Why? because Bush has inside info that Suddam is either very close to having his first nuke built or has already purchased several on the black market.

I am sick and tired of this on going game and I am having some bad thoughts of what is gonna happen in the next few years. the WTC was a wakeup call. This is a slow war because these islamic people take their time and calculate what it is they are going to do. They can not afford random air raids like the USA can so they plan their attacks with accuracy to asure they dont waste any hardware. they are very patient people. This may make them some of the best warriors on the face of earth. What can we do to stop them>? nothing. The Genie has been freed and we need to try and live the best we can for these are the end of times.

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We now know Bush had prior knowledge of what was to happen to the WTCs.

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More finger pointing? Last month in the media it was the FBI this month it's gearing to be the CIA.

The nation had prior knowledge that a attack on the world trade center was enevitable. Ramsi Yusef a key individual involved in the 1993 WTC bombing said "those towers will come down".

Special congress and senate commites have gone on record multiple times "we recive the same intelligence that the president does."

Do you seriously believe bush had specifics Al Quada to hijack commerical airplanes and fly them into the wtc towers on 9/11/01?

Pre 9/11 we knew that bin laden was "looking into hijacking airplanes" however that was the extent of the information.

It makes me sick to see key politicans on the media playing the blame game while grabbing for political cookies in hopes to advance their carrier since what we should be concerned about now is national security.

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Bell had a former CIA agent as a guess on his show talk about president Bushs reaction on Airforce one.

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Art Bell is also rumored to have gone senial. Who cares?

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Why? because Bush has inside info that Suddam is either very close to having his first nuke built or has already purchased several on the black market.

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If it came out that sadam was pulling the strings and responsible for all mideast turmoil, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

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Do you seriously believe bush had specifics Al Quada to hijack commerical airplanes and fly them into the wtc towers on 9/11/01?

Pre 9/11 we knew that bin laden was "looking into hijacking airplanes" however that was the extent of the information.

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You don't need to know the exact date. The Bush Administration knew something was going to happen, had info that it was likely going to be plane hijacking, and that the most likely targets were going to be the WTC, Pentagon, White House, places like that. They got warnings from numerous countries. Did they divert any resources from fighting the bogus drug war to taking these warnings seriously? No. Did they beef up airport security after getting all these warnings? No.

Feds knew, CIA knew, Bush Administration knew. An Iranian detainee told the US intelligence that there was going to be an attack that week. Israel told us. Russia told us. Phillipines told us. You don't need an EXACT DATE to know that you need to take actions to prevent this.

I dont think it would be as easy to arrest them as you think. Whenever you try to string together many legal activities and try to call that "evidence of terrorism intentions" you are going to have a rough time of it.

I mean, what are you going to do? Arrest them for taking flying lessons? Arrest them for possession of an airline ticket?

And even if you did, what could you do to them? You couldn't hold them forever, even if they were convicted of some minor crime.

It's not like if you went to their apartments you would find a big diagram with pictures of airplanes crashing into the world trade center, along with a little schedule and contact list.

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How about being arrested with connection to a large terrorist network?

That's not an actual charge. It's not a crime to be connected to a terrorist organization.

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The Bush Administration knew something was going to happen

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And prior to september eleventh a special senate commitee (which recives the same intel that bush does) released warnings to the faa.

Considering the faa recived countless warnings from intelligence commitees over the years from the bush and even during the klinton administration, maybe they let their guard down?

The media did a incrediable job at documenting the security blunders regarding the airports that the attacks initiated from.

So blame the fuckin faa while you are at it!

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Did they divert any resources from fighting the bogus drug war to taking these warnings seriously?

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What the fuck are you talking about? Did KLINTON divert any resources while his nation was under attack by these terrorist organizations (examples, 93 wtc bombing, various embassay bombings and the bombing of the uss cole)?

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You don't need an EXACT DATE to know that you need to take actions to prevent this.

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The revamping of the airline industry and newly implemented security precautions took time (they are still under way) and a significant ammount of money.

Now take into consideration the people of the united states have said "let us know". Numerous terrorist threats which once would have been kept classified (even those with limited creditability) beam across major and local media organizations on a weekly basis.

Nuclear threats, water treatment plants, water based attacks, apartment complexs, malls, shopping centers, bridges, suicide bombings, suicide gunmen, etc.

Describe the resources it would take to protect ourselves from those threats?

The same organization that was responsible with the september elventh attacks were tied in with the 93 WTC bombing. There was no warning. Only one informant who was a acquaintance of the terrorists. Who didn't know of a exact date or method of attack, just something was up!

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You don't need an EXACT DATE to know that you need to take actions to prevent this.

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Sadly enough yes you do! After sifting through the countless number of creditable threats that pour into intelligence annalyists which ones do you take seriously and which ones do you brush off?

After all if there was any intelligence pointing to the day of the attacks it would have been sittin on some annalyists desk. Blame him too!

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Feds knew, CIA knew, Bush Administration knew.

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Lets say despite all the terrorist threats that poured into our intelligence community we decided that this one was the real deal! There still was no indication as to the exact date, method of attack or even intended target.

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That's not an actual charge. It's not a crime to be connected to a terrorist organization.

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Actually a RICO charge could hold up.

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Feds knew, CIA knew, Bush Administration knew.

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And furthermore, we all know about the lack of communication between these agencies.

Let's blame them too!

Shit our politicans could be working on new strategies to protect our nation, but i'm sure we'd rather have them running around pointing their fingers at one another.

Do any of you believe the White House will be hit? I believe its the Reagan International Airport thats just outside of DC thats like 5 minutes away. you think they can scramble jets that fast and if so what can they do, shoot if down full of civilians over civilian population to save the president? Oh thats going to go over with the people of Maryland or DC.

You know its gonna happen. but we cant do anything, the president cant do anything and no one can do anything.

Lastly what kind of responce would there be if someone killed people in the whitehouse and the whitehouse was completely destroyed? If a Government of another nation isnt involved then how much more can we do that we arent already doing?

And if Suddam or another leader is directly link then do we use Nukes?

are you really that gulable and insular to believe that bush runs things just because people tell you he does. he may be the figure head but i doubt hes making the real decisions. having him attacked is of no real concern to nation agenda. the only impact would be the spirit or the nation, boohooo hoo he dead. it wouldnt affect the administration that much

The goverment gets HUNDREDS of warnings about "this is gopnna get blown up", "thats gonna get nuked" and so on EVERY DAY? So they heard 5 people say they were going to attack a symbol of America's prosperity, they probably have better than 50 a day who tell them the presidents going to get killed!

Considering that we know we can't stop a single person from doing a lot of dammage, and we lose what DEFINES US (freedom) to be more secure, shouldn't we rethink this whole "war on terror" crap?

I mean seriously, if ANYONE in the mideast didn't already have something to blame us for, they sure as HELL do now.

If this keeps up we'll be able to nominate most of the US for a darwin award.

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Do any of you believe the White House will be hit? ... can scramble jets that fast

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No need. There is a implemented no fly zone over the white house. Plenty of time to radio a airplane violating the no fly zone. And if needed blow them out of the sky. After all those SAM's on the white house yawn aren't there just for show.

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And if Suddam or another leader is directly link then do we use Nukes?

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Well considering, according to our intelligence sadam doesn't have a long range icbm that could be launched onto our soil. Does he have nukes? I'd be willing to bet. Probabaly mobile point and shoot transport vehicles. And is there another country nearby that he could hit in retaliation in order to hurt american assests or make us look bad? Sure.

No i meant Mobile. I know at least one bombing is floating around there somewhere. even a small nuclear device. and of course the dirty bombs are an option.

So far, I am yet to be affected by all monstrosities created by authorities. Then again I live in Humboldt county where those who aren't liberal get the shit beat out of them. So yeah. I'm half italian.

Its a nuclear age. nukes are going to go off no matter what,on us soil or on our assests.

and its 898.5% that the US and its allies will win.

As far as China goes,what side do you think China will join? Our side or the terrorist side?

China will kick back and let the West and the Middle East exhaust each other duking it out, then..

TAKE OVER THE WORLD! Well..what's left of it anyway. If nukes start to go off, won't be much left to take over.

no i bet that china would side with the western world. if something like that ahppened i doubt there would be any nuetrality. nukes are of little threat in a large scale total war where civilians are a targeted. chem and bios are more of a threat since they are far superior from a military standpoint. kill the bad guy and take his physical posesions with no other damage to valuable resources that could be siezed. or kill the bad guy and everything of use that he has. bios are definitly the new weapons of mass destruction

I was kidding, but I'd like to know how nukes aren't a threat in a full out war. Has there been some anti nuclear radiation burn technology that I don't know about?