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| Spurious Generalities This is the general discussion and chat forum. People can discuss just about anything they want to in this area, providing it doesn't fit in one of the other forums and provided that it will bring conversation to the thread. |
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This particular thread is a partial recovery - page 1 of its original capture was never archived, so some posts from that page are missing below.
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#1
 2001-07-06, 10:10
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nihilistic 
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Jesus is Lord
So we then go through the crucifixion plot
now a crucifixion plot has to actually be orchestrated
now if you going to run a popular revolution
when are you going to do it?
You had to go to pass over, not to go to pass over was actually against the law so everyone had to be there that is a pretty good time to start a revolution especially since it has been prophesied as well.
But first of all of course you have to get the trade this is where Judas comes in Judas of the iscariot knife he has to be looked upon as the criminal and the bad guy but in reality he was the good guy because someone had to do it.
Someone actually had to betray Jesus for the whole prophecy to actually start to happen. This is why Jesus said do what you must do of course he new he going to do because he told him to do it in the first place and this is why Judas then went to the authorities the authorities then came and picked up Jesus to be taken before pilot was tortured and then sentenced to death. Everything going well no problems at all there.
He was sentenced to death and then there became a bit of a problem because on the feast of pass over part of the Jewish tradition was to release a wrong doer. They were not going to release Jesus that was the last thing they were going to do they actually released berabus who was actually the head of the macabee so that was a pretty good one as well.
So Jesus didn't get released and therefore he got nailed up on the T, as we know. Now at the T where he'd been crucified we then start to see other clues because what used to happen is that when you are hanging up on the T you could be staying there anywhere up to three days sometimes but what they used to do as a mercy thing is that after about a day in the sun as you were actually nailed up there, to survive you had to keep your feet solid so you can actually stand there and breath normally what they used to do as a mercy thing to take you out of the game was a big iron bar and they would come up to all the crucified victims and smack their knees or their shins, breaking their legs and as the legs break their bodies slump and the axfixiate within about ten minutes so it was seen as a mercy thing to actually snap ones legs in half.
Now if this would have happen to Jesus and this happened to nearly everybody when you actually look at some of the big cathedrals in Germany you see Jesus on the T in the middle and you see the two robbers on the T and where the robbers are you see these two massive gashes across their shins so it happen to them but of course how was he going to walk triumphantly into Jerusalem with the armor of David if he's got broken legs, you tend to loose a bit of the energy if you have to be wheeled in a wheel chair don't you.
It's not going to work as the Son of God and the messiah to be wheeled in. So consequently you had to make sure that he was dead before they came around with the iron bars. This is why we start to see the clue he says I thirst so what do they do they give him a sponge of vinegar so if your thirsty its not a good thing to start drinking vinegar is it now no one would really want to do that would they it's a pretty nasty thing to do.
It wasn't vinegar this was the drug to actually put him out because as soon as he takes the sponge of vinegar he dies, so this was a drug an anathestic because it meant therefore that he didn't have to have his legs broken so he's taken down off the T but before everything's going right at this point everything's going wonderfully he's there looking dead there's no postmortem they take him down off the T and they then revive him a few hours later, they keep him out for a couple of days, get him in the armor and three days later hey remember me well I'm back in the game, lets have a rise up, lets have a revolution.
That was going to be the plot. What cocked it up was longenius with a spear and stuck the spear into his left side and in the bible the rendition of that water and blood then came out of the side. You speak to a coroner about what type of injury that would be it would be a near fatal injury and this is why the spear of longenius was always looked upon after that as a black magic weapon. Even Adolph Hitler spent fifteen years looking for the spear of longenius and in the book spear of destiny we can actually read about that. So they pulled him down off the T and wrapped him in a shroud the shroud of Turin as we know and took him away to the place where you start to see the angels coming into the tomb, they were not angels their actually people dressed in white who were the assyians, the assyians always used to wear pure white robes and I believe after this he did heal he did not ascend into heaven as that's too easy. He actually did come back and show his wounds to his brother and to the disciples but I believe that took place well after the pass over everybody had gone home. He had to come back on the third day to make it work It didn't matter a damn if he'd come back on the fourth day because the actual prophecy would not be fulfilled. That is what happened I believed he was healed back to right and that later of course he had to get out there was no way he could then come back and say hey I'm back because he hasn't done the messiah thing, he's just someone the terrorists didn't kill right so what are the going to do, they will do it properly to him next time! Therefore we start to link into the book Jesus lived in India so we now feel that he went back to India where he did most of his learning and there is a tomb there in cashmere to this day where that actually recognize that tomb to be that of Jesus dying at the ripe old age of 108 years old. So it was a good story it was a good plot but it didn't work.
all this i transcirbed from a former british military intelligence person, who has gone into hiding.
if you wish to read the whole lot(SCH BCH IS BANNED FROM THIS!!!)
TELL ME,i will send it.
their you go lambs, herded and fisted.
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#2
 2001-07-06, 10:31
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Re: Jesus is Lord
quote: Originally posted by Lokil: You need to shut the hell up, elusive. Cube is a cop. He left and is back.
when the fuck did i mention cube?, delusional little boy... cube is a cop? i want to kill a cop,.. make an example out them assholes. FTP elusive ------------------ trust nobody...
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#3
 2001-07-06, 10:36
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elusive 
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Re: Jesus is Lord
all you god faithful fucks are morons, think logically.
and think hard..
------------------ trust nobody...
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#4
 2001-07-07, 05:13
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Re: Jesus is Lord
Ok, for some unknown reason I decided to accualy read that theory on how the whole Jesus thing was just a hoax. There were a few things which made me doubt it. First there is information which has no real foundation. Some of the information has faulty foundation, like the library in Sanskirt contaning Jesus's teachings. The only reason i think thats faulty is your putting the chicken before the egg. Did Jesus make the quotes, or were they origionally in the library, we dont know.
Ok, also there is stuff in there which makes no real sense. They said that the people had to make a virgin. The virgin myth is a bad translation when the bible was being modified later in its existance. The phrophesy accualy says "young woman", not virgin. Look in a Jewish bible, or e-mail me and ill find the hebrew if you dont beleive me. Lastly the dude seems kinda messed up in the head. What does the tweleve Zodic sings and energy shifts have to do with Jesus? Also he went into hiding, a sign of paranoia which is a sign of some mental deformities.
On a side note, the parabol about the men at the temple was told by Jesus.
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#5
 2001-07-07, 06:48
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Re: Jesus is Lord
feh...
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#6
 2001-07-07, 11:50
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Re: Jesus is Lord
You know what, I was on the toilet the other week having a tremendous shit and i had no shitroll to wipe my ass.
All i had was a bible that my mom gave to me as a kid, not that i read the cunt but anyways besides the point all i had was this bible so i ripped a page out and wiped my ass on it and you know what, There was more fuckin shit came off the page than what came off my ass.
The bible.
What a load of donkeys fuckin bolloxs
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#7
 2001-07-07, 17:33
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Re: Jesus is Lord
Personally I'm not sure what to believe in so I just respect everyone's views so good on you at least you know what you believe in.
------------------ When cities burn and armies turn, and flee into disarray, Cowards will cry 'tis best to fly, and fight another day, But warriors know it in their marrow when they die and fall, tis better to have fought and lost the not to have fought at all.
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#8
 2001-07-07, 19:40
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Re: Jesus is Lord
please read this post everyone!
i used to be an atheist up till like a month ago. to me, the entire world could work and most of the universe could be explained without need for a higher power. also, god made a lot of rules that i didnt agree with. i cant masturbate? whats so wrong with that? i wasnt hurting anyone, it brought me pleasure, and all was good, so why couldnt i do it? somethine was out of place. i seldom swore, but when i did, my christian friends would scold me, you cant do that they said. but theres nothing wrong with that either!
i dont know if this helped, but i was big on science and believed it was right (it could be proven) so that kinda brought me away from needing god to explain things.
i was a good person! i always was! i never hurt anyone, i barely ever lied (most of my few lies were white lies), i had good intentions, helped out anyone i could, didnt stereotype, wasnt a racist, respected opinions, believed in justice, and was often told how nice i was. but i didnt believe in god, and for good reasons.
my christian friends told me that since i didnt believe in god iw ould go to hell. that got me so PO'd. i never did anything wrong, what did i do that made me deserve to burn in hell for all eternity. well, i guess i didnt accept god. but i couldnt help that! sure, i could say i believed in god, go to church, prayed every night, gone through all those christian steps in church, but deep down i would still have serious doubts that god existed. actually, i wouldnt believe he did, so i would still go to hell. going to hell for something i couldnt help! you cant change what you truly believe in, you gotta let your mind decide. so apparetnyl i was going to hell for something i couldnt help.
and whats up with god being so goo cuz he gave us free will. that means that you can choose whether or not to believe in and follow god. i didnt really choose not to, i just did. ok, but now i was going to hell! so basically god was saying "you dont have to do what i say and believe in me, but if you dont, youre going to hell" how fair is that? made me percieve god as a tyrant, if he even existed.
so i didnt believe in god. i was looking at some satanism websites and they made a lot of sense. they told how there was no higher power, no devil, nothing like that. satan was percieved as the principle or miracle of life, the way that everything worked. satan was not worshipped, just believed in. they also were very strong on power of the mind, (that stuff is great, i use it, and it works like every time. i believe that the mind is ones most pwerful weapon. my christian friends tell me that what i think is power of the mind is just the power of god). satanism also encourages people to indulge in what they want to do, and explore many of the 7 deadly sins, since they were satisfying and didnt really hurt anyone.
anyway, i had some real deep discussions with my christian friends, each trying to convert the other with reason. i kept winning, but they were just like, youre not changing my mind i love god and always will, so im not listening to you. so they werent even keeping an open mind and listening to my reasoning. jerks.
anyway, they gave me this book. it was called "the case for faith" (not to be confused with the case for christ, by the same author) written by lee strobel. it went over some of strongest arguements of atheism, and talked to highly reliable sources to disprove them. it made sense, a lot of it did, ill give them credit. (so if anyone wnats to disprove christianity, read that book).
now i kinda believed in god more, but still had doubts. i made a prayer to god asking him to help me not masturbate anymore, since it was supposedly a sin. this was kinda like a test to see if hed answer me. well, ive tryed to stop masturbating before, but ended up coming back after like 3 days, was my record. when i asked god to help me, i kept it off for 9 days, 3 times longer. wow, i thought, it kinda worked. but then again, it could have been power of the mind at work as well. i didnt really know.
then i started going to this one church that i now believe to be a cult, it tslowly takes the power away from god and brings it to the leader of the church, just like a cult. its doing really well, it has some 10,000 members. im pretty sure its the 3rd largest in the united states. but its evil! so i stopped going there.
now im slowly drifting back to atheism, cuz many of my old atheist reason are coming back to be. i am yet to decide what to believe in...
if anyone read all that, thanks a lot, felt good to get that out to totse.
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#9
 2001-07-08, 04:04
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nihilistic 
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Re: Jesus is Lord
penguin, it is well documented evidence, look up all your facts plus, the proven signs of this come from the back round info that was explained in the beggining of the whole thing, you may wish to read it to clarify.(i can send via email)
or you may continue to bend over,
up too you.
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