why are you so concerned if god exists or not? who cares? predestiny may or may not exist. there are lot's of things that we will never know. there never will be any positive proof one way or the other on any of these topics.

i think that a lot of the problems in the world are created by people who think they do know the answers and try to force these "answers" on others. organized religion sucks.

live your life, be happy. when you're ready for the truth there is one sure way to find out.

Okay.. here's a post that's going to be a bit contradicting to say the least.

First of all, one of my favorite lines.

"When something good happens, it's a miracle. When something bad happens, He moves in mysterious ways." Satan - End of Days.

I love that line, feel like it hit the true spot so well. However, something someone sent me once:

It was about this scientist who was explaining how God didn't exist. A teacher in the room stood up and was crunching on an apple and asking him questions about his scientific research on how God didn't exist.

At the end, he finished up his questions with, "Now tell me, how did that apple that I just ate taste? Was it good? Was it juicy or dry, sweet or bitter?"

The scientist replied, "How could I know that? You're the one that ate it, not me."

The teacher replied, "Just like you can't tell me how that apple tasted because you weren't the one who experienced it, you can't tell me my God doesn't exist, because you haven't experienced Him, but I have."

Food for thought.


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So there.

Sparr, once is enough

but I agree with you, lets live our life and forget religion , reason why I posted? I was bored =)

Maxim, who can *actually* say God has talked to them, I mean really experienced a God, the apple eater may lie and the guy wouldnt know....


food for thought munched up

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well fuck me with a ten foot pole how many people got pissed off at that one good job buddy you done well

"What does an aetheist scream during sex?"

So seriously.. you have a very good point MaU. Just as I don't fault aetheists, I hope that they can see through their strong beliefs to not fault us who do believe. I can't particularly get behind those who try to shove their beliefs onto other people. That's another reason I'm not into organized religion. It's something to keep us going.. something to be hopeful for. Everyone has something they believe in.. no matter the subject.

What is it you believe in?

gimme a sec

HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAA OMG HAHAHAHAHHA aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa OHAOHAOHAHAHAHOAHHAOHAHOA


thats the funniest shit ive ever heard "what does an atheist scream during sex". lets see, "oh my beeeeeeeeep*

besides that, i believe in individual rights, and independance, which is why i hate the government from stopping me from experimenting with ganja. but i guess they have their reasons, if anyone wants to hear them just ask.

[This message has been edited by maUru (edited 05-24-2001).]

Okay, so I never claimed to be the funniest around. Was that a bit of sarcasm I detect there?

Honestly, I would love to hear about Ganja at the risk of sounding ignorant; as I have no idea what it is.

Care to expand?

ganja or marijuana as its more commonly called is dangerous

dangerous to the textile industry because it would replace cotton

dangerous to the paper industry because it would replace pulp

dangerous to the fuel industry because it would replace the transportation alcohol used in cars in places like Brazil

dangerous to the medical industry because drugs such as aspirin and depon would not be as effective as ganja, also ganja is supposed to be a cure for many diseases

dangerous to tabbacco industry because ganja is way more popular than cigarettes (which are shit in my opinion)

dangerous to cops because they would be out of work if they didnt bust people for carrying ganja

dangerous to pop music because people that are stoned usually tend to listen to instrumental music that uses actual instruments such as old rock, reggae and even classical, unlike the 16 beat dance shit you hear today that plays the same thing over and over, with some stupid, usually electronicized voice over

dangerous to government because if ganja was legal, they couldn't generate the massive extra profit made from crooked senators/presidents/ministers etc.

dangerous to society because cops wouldnt be able to bust all those drunken bastards that are either driving drunk or vandalizing the place while the stoners are sitting around just chillin =0

so against all the shit people have been feeding you about ganja being good, its all a crock....look how *dangerous* ganja really is

Well, my sister od'ing on heroin makes me feel better that that someone she with someone. Although, I don't feel that there is a god, I feel religion answers questions that science cannot answer. More or less, I feel that there is a some kind of spiratual being... I do have a passion for The dead and Phish. But my new found love is hiphop/rap. So I have an array of music to listen to. I know this doesn't in the right forums but I did include the there is no god topic.

Yeah dank...
i had a friend go the same way.. it sucks, but you know...
It would be much easier thinking that there is something beyond this...
I dont belive there is..
But i tend too look at it more this way.

Throughout your life you meet people, do things that will no matter how small play some party in making up the world and human spieces as a whole..
If there was no, your sister.. you wouldnt have memories and thoughts of her. Then you ca start thinking that she wasnt important to the world,, she was a junkie. Well you think off forgetting about all the insignificant people in the world.. and there wont be much of anybody left. Just be glad that she was around for a little while.

Makes you wat to try and enjoy life.

life is what you make it.

quote:

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Originally posted by PcThUg2ooo:
. Then you ca start thinking that she wasnt important to the world,, she was a junkie.

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PC lease don't say things like her not being important to the world. And calling my younger sister a junkie who passed on isn't polite at all! She was VERY important to me and made a mistake of trying a speedball for the first time. That isn't a way to approach things. Not at all!

MaU, first off, thank you for explaining. For once I think I might actually consider that as truth. So far as it can go.

As for Dank, and the topic.. well, I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm right there with you. When my son died, it's comforting to think that there was Angels there guiding him, and that there is a heaven and he's happy. I think that confirmed my belief, my desprate need to hope that there is, and that he's happy.

We may never be able to explain everything that evolves around this world.. but without diversity and people believing what they do and how they do it, well.. this world wouldn't be anything worth living in. If everyone were "normal" we'd be a world of living robots, doing the same things at the same time. It would be horrifying and insanely boring. Without the vegetarians balancing out what us carnivors eat, then we'd be low on food supply. Everything is perfect the way it is.. albeit I do wish violence could tone down Just a tad.

Hey Dank? How'd you make that smiley face with the tongue popping out? I did a double take while reading. That rocks!

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So there.

how does heroin have anything to do with ganja? ganja is a mild drug whereas heroin is pretty hard shit (from what ive heard). i myself would never stick a needle in myself but i am not against others trying, although i am against heroin since it causes many deaths and depressions but if i was a governor i wouldnt put it against the law but rather let people experiment in their own private homes, ie. not in public places. *deep breath after that sentence*.

now, ive only lost one person dear to me in my life. my mother died of cancer when i was 4 and that was pretty shit although i didnt really realise at the time what a loss it was. being an atheist i cant think of angels carrying her to heaven but i can only think of her as a part of me living on. i think of her rarely though, guess i was too young...

listen everyone, drugs are not a good idea at the moment. i got kicked out of school for carrying weed and that really sucks. but what i really hate is how the government *chooses* what i can/cannot do. this is my life, i only have one chance at it, and i want to do it, as i quote franky himself, "my way".

one life - live it

Blah, blah, blah, God doesn't exist. We all know this. Why can't we concentrate on more important stuff, like farting durring sex? How can so many people care about the fac tthat there's no God. I don't believe in Santa, but I don't preach about it non-stop.

I'm gonna go figure out ways to get this bitch I'm knocking up to stop farting. Maybe a different position? I dunno.

LMAO!!!

After sex, slowly move your leg closest to her up, pulling all the cold air under the blanket. Then hold the sheets down and fart at the same time. The fart will go STRAIGHT into her face.

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Originally posted by maUru:
Heh, who is this Nihil?

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hello lambs,

There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved.

� Charles Darwin, The Origin of Species

so we have refernce to g.o.d

G.o.d

An entity possessing omniscience, omnipotence and "perfect" morality.

hahaaar

in what ..of life?

life

A region on the spectrum of complexity beginning somewhere around viruses and extending to intelligence and beyond.

what some sort of epiphenomenon?

(A secondary phenomenon caused by another.)

so what does the emptyness of meaning have to you lambs,hahhaar

meaning

an Actual or objective effect?.

Meaning is dependent on context;

the same thing

can have different meanings in different contexts because the context determines the effect. The meaning of an event is the effect it has on future events. The meaning of a spoken or written word is the effect it has on its audience.

or the Intended effect. The intended effect of a written word or speech act is usually to induce a specific cognitive state in the mind of the audience

in your system you all live by claim to be in de(nihil) of g.o.d =g.old o.r d.ollors

do you even know what a system is lambs

to understand a system is to possess a conceptual model that can be used to accurately predict the behaviour of the system. A deep understanding entails understanding the components of the system.

you claim to be atheist,

but to me you are poor nihilists, with desire hence no will.

i am nihilistic in the true sense of the word, i.e. i contempt
any and all humans and human ideologies, including right wing, anti judaean,christian, mongolian, islamic etc.
i am...above all political struggles. fight against humanity in general!

please to meet you lamb.

GOD IS DEAD HAHAHAAAAAR.

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totally nihilistic

oh shut the fuck up

damn you must have a shit life, bothering to type all that crap out, i mean sure i wrote a lot in the first post, but i was bored, you however constantly keep posting a bunch of crap

no my friend, i am not like nihilistics, nihilistics are like me which they are not because im not an arrogant hot headed proud moron

and i must agree, farting while having sex is a way bigger issue =)

PS. being a greek i know what epiphenomenon means, since half the english language comes from greek/latin. so go on and throw all those large over 10 letter words at me, chances are i can tell you its meaning straight away unlike you where a dictionary is your best friend.....here look up fellatio, then you know what your mum does to me every night >:)

[This message has been edited by maUru (edited 05-26-2001).]

You know MaU, you should actually be impressed. I mean, did you really read Nihil's post? I've struggled time and time again to read many of his posts, and not one did I manage to understand. (Not because of the big words mind you, but because he tosses in "big" words to try and validate his otherwise droning and meaningless dribble upon which he plagerises most everything else to prove his point.)

So I read that post, thinking "Oh gods, he's posted again, when we were having such a lovely grown up conversation." And found out that I understood two sentances in there! Yay! It's a breakthrough!

Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike the guy.. I could never understand him to dislike him.

So this whole farting during sex problem. It could be the food.. there are a lot of foods high in the gasious content, so you should have sex just after eating. Otherwise they make anti-gas medicines that you can slip her in her drink.. that's what I do. Then there's the whole solution of talking to her about it, letting her know how you feel.. and then there's the revenge method. All of which would probably work. It's that whole comfort level. She's reached it, and now she thinks she's safe to do whatever she wants. Let her know that she isn't safe and that the comfort level isn't cut out for that.

There you have it, G.o.D. has spoken.

(Gone offthe Deepend.)

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So there.

wining lambs,

maru if you think your bigger than me and can tell me to shUt up, then i have another surprise for you lamb,

just like you maxium fairy

, you cant understand my posts becasue they are above your feeble essence, and true to the thoughts of MY MIND, NOT SOME ONE ELSES lamb.

like i said in my post.

LAMBS,LOL

understand.

god is dead, like your mind.
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totally nihilistic

like i said maru, ow piss ant cup cake.

YOU ARE NO ATHEIST, YOUR ARE ONLY IN DENILE OF GOD.

so you shut the fuck up and dont read any more of my posts lamb, and you too mazium fairy.

lol.

lol

first off, i dont get your name wrong, so dont write mine wrong and learn to spell dammit

and of course its obvious we dont understand your dialect, only newborns and 1 year olds can understand that babyish immature blabber