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 #1 
Old 2001-04-18, 18:45
Freedomrik Freedomrik is offline
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Default Initial move in a street fight?

My wife was sexually assaulted two nights ok by a co-worker, he also threaten her and me. After work we had a brief encounter in the parking lot,but were run off by management.

I would like to know what you think is the best initial move in a fight. I was thinking a quick jab to the nose to disorient him for the next several blows to come.

Please help me and my wife restore our respect this looser has taken from us......

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Old 2001-04-18, 18:50
White Witch White Witch is offline
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Im not calling you a coward but if someone threatened my wife i would have kicked his teeth into the curb of the sidewalk. "Management chased you off"? what the fuck. Who gives a fuck what "Managment did" i would have kick the manager in the nuts as well. even if the cops came it is your honorable duty to set this asshole straight. Anyone who "Assults or Insults a woman" is a fucking pussy ass to start off with. unless you wife is constantly in his face (then you may have to have a talk with her).

anyways get first solid punch in face. Maybe a kick in the nutsack. or a punch in his neck or throat area is the best first move.
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Old 2001-04-18, 18:53
White Witch White Witch is offline
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I have to correct myself. I misread that. You said "Sexually Assulted" her. still all of the above apply. only i would have waited and done it away from anyone to see. I would have followed him to his house and kicked his front door in and ran a knife in his throat. or you could always sue him and the company that she works for.
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Old 2001-04-18, 19:00
Freedomrik Freedomrik is offline
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Default Re: Initial move in a street fight?

We were in the parking lot of my employer,
I have 2 girls to feed,so I cant loose my job(if at All possiable).

After work my wife only said that he threated to get her and me after work. I was told this right after work about 2 miniutes before he was in my face.

She didn't tell me about the sexual assault till he had left.....
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Old 2001-04-18, 19:11
White Witch White Witch is offline
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Im really thrown a curve here. Does your wife work with you? Or are you saying a co worker of yours came onto your wife. When you say "Sexually Assulted" do you mean he walked up to your wife and grabbed her ass or breasts? you made it sound like it happened at her work. I doubt your boss would have fired you under those circumstances. but had he done it you would have had a serious lawsuite towards them for them allowing this to happen on their property.

but if this bothers you then like i said.. Find out where he lives and fucking waste his ass (No wait.. i dont want to be sued..I retract that statement) if it were me i would have said nothing and waited a month and then fucked him up. but thats me.
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Old 2001-04-18, 21:23
Spiffy McBang Spiffy McBang is offline
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Default Re: Initial move in a street fight?

If he did fuck the guy up right there, even if the boss understood and didn't want to fire him, he may not have had a choice. And if the guy's wife doesn't work there, since there was no sexual harassment/assault in the workplace, the asshole would keep his job.

Ok.. look.. if you need to ask what the best thing to do in a street fight is, it doesn't sound like you know much about fighting at all. If you did, you'd know. I totally understand sticking up for your wife, but this is no longer a passionate fit of anger that's leading you to beat his ass; it's a planned assault, and it would be wise to remember that.

Does this guy have any fighting ability? If not, is he physically more capable than you? If either one is yes, you may want to re-think taking the fucker head-on. When dealing with a planned attack, especially in vengeance, you absolutely can NOT lose, or else he will have power over you until such time as you do get your revenge.

Ask yourself what's more important to you- temporarily seeing him at your mercy, or getting the last laugh? If it's the former, there are a lot of things you could do- jump him, knife him, physically harm him in some other way- that would serve your purpose well. All of them, however, have drawbacks; the one that they all share is that, short of him dying, he'll heal. Assholes have a tendency to feel that your revenge is an uncalled for attack, and seek their own revenge- you then wind up with a Hatfield/McCoy situation. Not so good.

As for a long-term "victory".. all I can recommend is patience. Take a martial art. Become his superior. Outwardly, it will appear as though you're just taking it; inwardly, you'll know the truth. Don't study anything with the purpose of revenge in mind, though, or else you'll miss the true purpose of the art. Take it to be able to protect yourself and her from any future confrontations. If the opportunity arises for you to even the score with your co-worker, so much the better.

Most importantly, talk to her, speak honestly, and get her to speak honestly. If you go to her and say you think it should be forgotten for now, but you're going to learn to fight, she may get the feeling that you're wimping out. Mentally, she very well may know you're not, but deep down she could doubt. There's no easy way around that.. you simply need to be careful with your words.

Ask her what she wants, and demand the full truth. If she wants that guy's head on your dinner table, she has to tell you that. When you both know where you stand, then you can make the choice that's right for both of you with regards to what to do about this.
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Old 2001-04-18, 22:30
White Witch White Witch is offline
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fuck spiffy.. thats a little to involved. besides if the guy was into martial arts himself then he would always be ahead of you no matter how many lessons you took.

wait it out (unless it continues) and do what you have to do. Dont worry about being cowardess about sneaking up on him. he fucking deserves it. of course this is for informational purpose only. if you did kill him and then you were arrested and told the police you got this information on TOTSE i dont want to be liable for any future lawsuits that may occure

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Old 2001-04-18, 23:30
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Put LSD in his coffee, or if you just want to strip away his "self" put MDMA in there too. Perhaps he won't be an asshole.

When I saw Hannibal I loved the part where he cut a out a piece of the brain, cause that meant Ray Liotta could never be a two timing bastard again. Make him do drugs.

Or if you want him dead, make him injest this one plant...Serotonin grows in crystals on it's leaves. It's extremely, extremely sharp, and will make him bleed internally.

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Old 2001-04-19, 00:29
Mr CrEEP Mr CrEEP is offline
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here some tricks that worked for me,,,,,,smile and look behind him, that will confuse him and theres your 2 second chance to smack your palm into both of his ears FUCK HIS ASS UP, if it comes down to a fight aim for the danger areas like his ears, stomach, shins,neck, the soft places, hitting his face or other boney parts will damage your fist and that will take away some of your strength, you gotta fight dirty,throw the first punch, cheat, i sometimes carry very hot coffee with me,its a perfect weapon, splash the whole cup in his face you will blind him and burn his face, almost like pepper spray,then theres your next chance to FUCK HIS ASS UP, just dont kill him, heres a website that might help www.trsdirect.com,,,some times they give out free reports for fighting tips and tricks,,,,,good luck
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Old 2001-04-19, 01:33
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You heal from street fights, my attack is internal and shakes the very core of your being.
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Old 2001-04-19, 02:22
Ancisace Ancisace is offline
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Just do what I do in a street fight: Walk quickly round a corner, then run like hell when the other guy cant see ya...
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Old 2001-04-19, 03:26
Z3m Z3m is offline
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Default Re: Initial move in a street fight?

I've only been in one street fight.

After taking a few punches I tackled the guy and took his shoe. After doing so, I hit him with it. I thought it would be a funny story to tell later.

If that happened to my wife, I'd get a baseball bat and take it over to his house. Break his arms, ala Evel Kneval.
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Old 2001-04-19, 03:41
nihilistic nihilistic is offline
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Default Re: Initial move in a street fight?

i afraid spiffy nearly got it right, as he obviously needs to learn some basics, but witch is right where there isnt all to much involved,

you need to learn a few pressure point areas, as if you havent been training(weights) iike me for years, i dont know why any one wouldent, then you can give 3 or 4 lethal blows that dont require that much strength, ofcause you can learn most of these at a place called paladinpress.org
or go into the search engine and look up paladin press, and they have alot of street fighting techniques, it will take you one day to learn, and one day to practice them,

i cannot tell you exactly what to do, i know what i would do as i train in this stuff every day, if your job and kids are on the line, then leave it and the oppertunity will present it self when things arnt as critical.

other wise give me some money and i will get some of our black metal horde members in the us to visit this guy, actually fuck the money, tell me any ways and i might arrange some thing, but then you will have to do some thing for me, and that is.......

be prepared for this type of cituation in the future and get into weights, you might like it.

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Old 2001-04-19, 03:41
Ain Ain is offline
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Default Re: Initial move in a street fight?

Man I cant say this enough times.
Your classic 1.2.3.

1 Get your-self a roll of quarters.
Walk strait up to the guy "don't say a word", just hit him with a fast, hard uppercut to the chin.(Follow through with the punch all they way.)

2 Now while he is out cold, if he is still on his feet come in with a over-hand punch to the side of the head. Or in the face.

3 Then just walk away and "get rid of the paper wrapping".(Very Important! Lesser charge if you go to Jail.)

But!
If you do end up in jail you already got $10.00 on the books.




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 #15 
Old 2001-04-19, 03:44
Redrover Redrover is offline
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Default Re: Initial move in a street fight?

Fin his name, adress and telephone number and any other personal information you can dig up on him and publish it on TOTSE. Watch has he receives two mail-bombs, an audit from the IRS and is framed for credit card fraud.
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Old 2001-04-19, 18:50
wolf2600 wolf2600 is offline
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Default Re: Initial move in a street fight?

If the other guy is bigger/stronger than you, a swift, hard kick in the knee will distract him, then start wailing away on his nose, throat, or any other soft/vulnerable spots. I wouldn't recommend weapons, it's always a possibility that the other guy could get a hold of them, then you would be SOL.

Or you could always hit the guy with your car.
 #17 
Old 2001-04-19, 19:16
Freedomrik Freedomrik is offline
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Default Re: Initial move in a street fight?

Thanks guys,
alot of good ideas some of you have.

Me and my wife both work at the same place.
Where I work they have a o tolorance for fighting.(they will fire both parties involved)

my first move has been to get him fired,we have filed a complaint with management,and I have been told i will find out by 2 pm today what their action will be.

I have been in plenty of fights(10 years ago). Married life has made me soft. Yes, I have picked the weights back up(ohhh so sore...)I wont my 1st blow to do the most damage. I have always went for the nose, I was wondering if there was a better initial move. I know some of you guys are into martial arts and some of you are just browlers. I knew I could get a straight answer here.

Would you believe the let that mother fu@#%$ work last night...I had an 8 hour addrinalin rush. wheather they fire him or not, I will get justice(if you know what I mean)

He is maybe slightly taller than me, We probably weight the same.My only concern is I have been told he sometimes carries a darenger in is pocket. Its for that reason I wont the first blow to really count.I am going to have to be very quick in my" defense"

I get off at 10:00 pm I'll let you guys know what my employers decided. Either way that wont change what he has coming, just make me feel better
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Old 2001-04-19, 19:45
White Witch White Witch is offline
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quote:
Originally posted by Redrover:
Fin his name, adress and telephone number and any other personal information you can dig up on him and publish it on TOTSE. Watch has he receives two mail-bombs, an audit from the IRS and is framed for credit card fraud.



Don't forget we could steal his identity
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Old 2001-04-19, 23:11
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i usually went for the throat or collar bone with my coup baton.
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Old 2001-04-19, 23:20
Cokeboy Cokeboy is offline
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If you seriously seriously want to fuck him up get a lot of friends to help. That way it doesnt matter what he is like or if he is armed as everyone just jumps the fucker and kicks seven shades of shit out of him.
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Old 2001-04-19, 23:55
Mr CrEEP Mr CrEEP is offline
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sometimes martial arts just doesnt work, theres alot of tricks to get passed all that step by step martial arts stuff, you gotta cheat your way no matter what, there is no rules in a street fight,,,,,,carry a pocket knife, their perfectly legal as long as the blade isnt concealed in like a pen or comb,etc....and as long as the blade isnt longer then your palm,,i carry one all the time,its handy and great to have,and all you do is say its for handy use like opening food packages, etc...perfectly legal,,,just play it safe and youll be alright..and if i were you do everything legally,because the system screws you up hardcore,like they did to me,,damm the system!!!!!!
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Old 2001-04-20, 04:01
nihilistic nihilistic is offline
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hmmmmm, okay remember i said learn where the pressure points are, if you do by the info i told you, you can give him three blows and he will be nearly dead, i said nearly, as if you arnt into weights now, you proberly would hit him just hard enough to make him realise that he is fucked.

i cant explain it here, as you should learn for your self, but take a day to practice it, i mean a fucking day, i sat for a whole day psyching my self and training all the moves on the bag, by the time the fight happened, both of them didnt know what hit them, one guy that ran away was sure as heel not going to come back and that is what you want to do you want to give him the message that if he messes with you again you will cripple him,

when you strike with the points on the body, when he is down be sure to get him in a sleeper hold behind the neck and apply pressure to his spine(with the knee), and then you could mildly nearly break his back, you dont need to be strong to do this but you need to get two essentially blows in first,(he will be dazed and weak)

forget about weapons, read that shit i told you to, and you will find out that your hands are more deadly!!!!!!!

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if you do find out where he lives and shit, after you beat him up send us all his name and shit, we wont our fun too.
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Old 2001-04-20, 04:38
White Witch White Witch is offline
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Just shoot the fucker and get on with your life.
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Old 2001-04-20, 04:39
White Witch White Witch is offline
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quote:
Originally posted by White Witch:
Just shoot the fucker and get on with your life.



Damn it.. once again i retract that statement.. i dont want to be sued for giving you advise. Damn it.. im suck a pussy!
 #25 
Old 2001-04-20, 18:48
Freedomrik Freedomrik is offline
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Default Re: Initial move in a street fight?

Ok, guys...I'm a little bit happier.

They fired the SOB yesterday,I was really glad to hear that(for my wifes sake)except now I dont know where he is. I have some detective work to do. I have a general idea where he lives and I know what he drives. May take a few days to locate him.......

I'll keep everyone posted

Thanks again for everyones help, and please keep those ideas coming.
 
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