Thank you for your honest answer Suziegirl. If I am such a novice that to answer my question is a waste of time then fine. However,if anyone else is willing to help, What I was looking for was advice on how anyone here got started. I am neither looking for a tutor nor a mentor. What I am looking for is some direction ie. the book, website you started with.

here is a good website.. it sometimes goes down so just keep checking
http://www.howtohacknapsterbecauseiamaloserwithnolife.com

clean?

....i've read your posts and i think i get what your looking for and sorry to tell ya but i don't think it exists heres a website
http://pinkynet.freeservers.com/hacking/

Newbies guide to mostly harmless hacking ..prett old

and check out www.hackers.com or any other hacker website like www.infowar.com and look for some text files for beginners and just look for some tips and tricks.

to kick someone out of napster you logon with a moderater id and password and type the command /kick <username> that will work on most chatrooms too the difficult part is getting the password

of course you could always find out what one looks like and where they live.........go from there

Clean and here's one for you http://www.iamsoinsecurethatihavetoconstantlyputdownothersandprovemysuperiorknowledge.com or try http://www.iamsuchaloserthatiwastetimetryingtobefunnyonthewebratherthanmeetingpeopleinreallife.com BTW, your replies might have been funny if I had not clearly stated that I have no wish to knock people off of napster. Lestat, thanks maybe these are what I'm looking for.

I have a question for you then. How do you expect to become any type of hacker at all if you cant even correctly post to a message board? Is it really that hard to realize you only need to click the submit button once? If you want websites with hackin info on them try finding one of them nifty things on the web... i think they are called search engines.. but i could be wrong...


Clean.

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I wish I could say it was done for emphasis, but unfortunately that is not the case. I went back on my browser,maybe that's what did it. Whatever the case may be, read my name, that should expalin my ineptitude. Also, say you new absolutely nothing about mathematics. Where would you start if you were searching on the net....calculus, geometry, arithmatic? Remember, you know absolutely nothing about math and as such these words mean nothing to you. I see two differnt options: 1)Blindly pick a title knowing that there is a good chance you may be waisting your time reading something that is much to advanced for you. 2)Ask someone who has expertise in the subject for advice running the risk that there will be some punk (not you of course) who will ridicule you? I know I am an idiot who doesn't know anything about the subject. I am trying to learn and understand that in is not an overnight process.I know that everyone here knows way more than me on this subject. I even realized that people were going to make fun of me. I don't care, but in between the putdowns, the jokes,and the ridicule - to borrow a phrase from Austin Powers - "throw me a freakin' bone here people!" Consider my questions to you a compliment from me on your knowledge.

"'Tis better to be thought a fool and keep one's mouth shut then to open it and remove all doubt."

What a neat little aphorism. Anyways, somewhere out in that sea of shit called the internet is the bone you want us to throw you. Dig it up yourself.

Atomic the word is "than" not "then". What kind of idiot can't even copy something right? Perhaps you should read the quote again and maybe even take heed. Old Abe was talking about those who claim to know more about a subject than they actually do. I make no such claim. I think this would fit the situation better.
"I have been driven many times upon my knees by the overwhelming conviction that I had nowhere else to go. My own wisdom and that of all about me seemed insufficient for that day."
Some of us can actually use quotes that are apropos. Also what aphorism? This "Whatever the case may be, read my name, that should expalin my ineptitude," or maybe you don't know understand that either. The comparison to math was an analogy. They both start with an "a" though. Here's another "ass." As in you suck ass. I do appreciate the metaphor though. It was the best thing about your reply. I'll be happy to tell you what a metaphor is too, if you don't know what that word means either.
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It seems to me like your interest is in communications via. the internet. Now what i would do is first get used to the internet as an enviroment. Then learn about protocals this site should be a good place to start: Internet Protocals for Newbies

How i got this was using hotbot and using 'newbie' as my search string. Now this should give you a good start.

Now go and learn, maybe some day you will understand how they have kicked you off.

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Hey Clean and Ignorant, did you type those links wrong, I cant get into em.

Thanks soullace. Matius (lol) you're right. I may have typed them wrong. I keep trying to go back and I can't find them either.

BWAHHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAA No its a link... honest... its just goes down a lot...

Clean....

I would NEVER waste my money on registering that domain...some ppl will spend their money on anything.