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Old 2009-01-12, 02:58
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Default Fentanyl patch help

I have a 50mcg/hour 72 hour transdermal patch. What is the best way to use it? I dont think eating parts of it would be good, since fentanyl has a lower bioavailability when taken orally as opposed to transdermally.

Any suggestions?

Thnx
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Old 2009-01-12, 05:56
DrZoidbergMD DrZoidbergMD is offline
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Cut it into strips and eat it. Trust me, this is by no means a waste. Either that or wear it and be high for 3 days. Personally, i prefer eating.
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Old 2009-01-12, 06:59
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Default Re: Fentanyl patch help

i prefer to cut the edge off of a patch, squeeze out about the size of a nickle on some foil and smoke it.

i love smoking fentanyl gel.
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Old 2009-01-12, 19:58
DrZoidbergMD DrZoidbergMD is offline
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Originally Posted by NoLifeToLive34251
i prefer to cut the edge off of a patch, squeeze out about the size of a nickle on some foil and smoke it.

i love smoking fentanyl gel.


Weird. I've gotten barely high from smoking it. I've tried everything including indirectly touching the flame to the fent. I have a feeling that a person without an abnormally light tolerance to opiates would have to use quite a bit of the patch to get high smoking it. IMO smoking is a HUGE waste. It is about the equivalent of smoking powder heroin vs. sniffing or shooting.
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Old 2009-01-13, 01:54
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Melbourne Vic Australia
Default Re: Fentanyl patch help

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It is about the equivalent of smoking powder heroin vs. sniffing or shooting.

I thought smoking Heroin, if you do it right, can be the most cost effective, not to mention the safest, way to ingest it? Same for Fent?
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Old 2009-01-13, 04:38
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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Default Re: Fentanyl patch help

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Originally Posted by DrZoidbergMD
Cut it into strips and eat it. Trust me, this is by no means a waste. Either that or wear it and be high for 3 days. Personally, i prefer eating.


oral bioavailablity proves otherwise. buccal/sublingual absorbtion is where it is at.

OP BE FUCKING CAREFUL WITH YOUR DOSING MAN. so many people have died from fent. the best way to do it is not at all. If you don't have a super high opiate/opioid tolerance you should not even be messing with fent.
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Old 2009-01-13, 14:31
koko47879 koko47879 is offline
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You've probably already done what you will with your patch, but here's what I tell my friends to do when they buy my 5mg patches: Cut it into 16 pieces, then chew on one piece for about a half an hour. Then you wait another half an hour to an hour and if you don't feel it, then cut a 1/16th piece in half and chew it. Fentanyl is really fucking dangerous, I've read many reports on erowid which didn't turn out so I don't recommend eating more than an 1/8th of a 5mg patch if you're not tolerant. I just pray you don't end up another statistic not knowing what you're doing.
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Old 2009-01-13, 18:19
DrZoidbergMD DrZoidbergMD is offline
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Default Re: Fentanyl patch help

I thought smoking Heroin, if you do it right, can be the most cost effective, not to mention the safest, way to ingest it? Same for Fent?

For tar herioin, smoking is the best method of injestion. For powder, smoking is basically a waste.


And I agree with Koko.
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Old 2009-01-14, 00:38
ShroomLove ShroomLove is offline
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Default Re: Fentanyl patch help

I thought smoking Heroin, if you do it right, can be the most cost effective, not to mention the safest, way to ingest it? Same for Fent?
Maybe the freebase, and the most efficient way to "smoke" freebase heroin, I presume, is by vaporizing it.
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Old 2009-01-14, 01:03
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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For tar herioin, smoking is the best method of injestion. For powder, smoking is basically a waste.


And I agree with Koko.there is also powdered tar heroin and it is not anymore wasteful to smoke than regular tar. The brown sugar looking powdered tar will turn back to tar in humid enviorments. I live in the desert so it doesnt do that so you lightly breath on the powder and it turns back to tar.
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Old 2009-01-14, 02:27
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Melbourne Vic Australia
Default Re: Fentanyl patch help

Maybe the freebase, and the most efficient way to "smoke" freebase heroin, I presume, is by vaporizing it.

That's what you are doing, I mean chase the dragon off foil.

As far as powder H goes, i'm fairly sure you can smoke that efficiently aswell? Not 100% sure though mate, you would probably have a better idea about it than I would.
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Old 2009-01-14, 03:39
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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That's what you are doing, I mean chase the dragon off foil.

As far as powder H goes, i'm fairly sure you can smoke that efficiently aswell? Not 100% sure though mate, you would probably have a better idea about it than I would.

What is that movie called with heath ledger where he is a junkie. And his girlfriend in the movie is a junkie also. It was a AUS movie or atleast toook place in AUS. Good movie.
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Old 2009-01-14, 13:55
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Default Re: Fentanyl patch help

IMO smoking is a HUGE waste. It is about the equivalent of smoking powder heroin vs. sniffing or shooting.

Smoking fentanyl is the absolute most effective way to both get high from it and conserve it, assuming you know what you're doing. It's a completely different feeling from just eating the shit.
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Old 2009-01-14, 19:39
DrZoidbergMD DrZoidbergMD is offline
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Default Re: Fentanyl patch help

oral bioavailablity proves otherwise. buccal/sublingual absorbtion is where it is at.

OP BE FUCKING CAREFUL WITH YOUR DOSING MAN. so many people have died from fent. the best way to do it is not at all. If you don't have a super high opiate/opioid tolerance you should not even be messing with fent.

By "Eating" I am talking about sublingual/buccal. Yes, actually swallowing it would be ineffective. An as for dope, shoot/sniff the powder, smoke the tar :)
 
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