Well I know this wont work for everyone but It worked for me and a buddy and were doing 200+mg a day everyday for a few years.

Step 1: Start to taper your dose down to as low as can. Just take when you need to not feel sick everyday and try to get it down to 30-60mg (We were using oxy)

Step 2: The day you take the pill you have buy a bunch of xanax, and instead of waking up and taking oxy take some xanax. We would usally take 4mg of xanax in the morning and 2mg every few hours when we started getting real sick. We would also take ~4mg at night to sleep along with some beers.

Step 3. After a week or so of the xanax its times to stop. This is where its get different. You need to either get some GHB or something like GHB (GBL,1,4b,ect). When You wake up take around 3g of GHB or the equal of the analogs. This will even you out and make you hungry so you can eat. Take 2-2.5g before each meal of the day. The GHB amount isnt enough to knock you out just make you hungry and feel evened out. At night take 4-5g of GHB for sleep. [WARNING: Do not drink or take anything that will slow your breathing]

Step 4. After a week of doing this its time to stop. You can either stop cold turkey from the GHB but you will feel shitty for a couple of days, I found smoking a bowl when I woke up and a few more bowls throughout the day made me feel normal.

Step 5: You can keep smoking weed if you want, but I stoped and I would wake up feeling a little shitty by not like opiate W/Ds just like depressed and bored as hell before I had no drugs.

I used this method and was clean off opiates for over 2 months and with very little W/D pain. It worked alot better than when I tried methadone and suboxone to quit opiates. Again this is just a method that worked for 2 people and worked great so I figure Id post it.

For those of you that dont know about GBL or 1,4b. GBL can be bought overseas and is a liquid were every 1ml of GBL is equal to 1.6g of GHB. 1,4b can be bought online and some stores in the US its a solvent like GBL. 1,4b is very cheap I get 4oz bottles of the liquid for a little over $30 shipped. Please test any GHB,GBL, or 1,4b alone before you do this to make sure you dont have problems with your body.

So please give me some thoughts of my method and I hope I can help just 1 person get over their addiction. Who knows it might even help with some other addiction. I bet a GHB treatment would be able to help with benzo w/d.

Nice method but you're a bastard.

h0ppinlowrider...

this thread should be titled 'h0p's Method of losing an oxy addiction and picking up a few more.'

eh i mean that's sort of common sense no disrespect. my method is just simply weening by going from $50 worth of dope a day, to $40, then $30, then $20, then only doing it before bed to get some sleep and smoking weed during the day. after a few days of only dosing at night just drinking to fall asleep or taking xanax and smoking lots of weed. pretty simple..

3g of GHB or the equal of the analogs.

That's a pretty stiff dose there, son.

I'm currently trying to stop using buprenorphine..
think I'm gonna give something like this a try.

That's a pretty stiff dose there, son.

Well, he's done 8 grams before, so 3 really isn't all that hardcore for him.

Perhaps you should be a little more careful when throwing around definitive doses for a chemical that can kill you. Not everyone does outrageously hardcore amounts of drugs that you do, so maybe a bit of precaution would be nice.

Before anyone uses this 'method', go here:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ghb/ghb_dose.shtml

GHB is extremely dose sensitive. Each person has a different response to each dose level. To safely verify the correct dosage, ALWAYS START LOW.


# If you overdose even slightly on ghb (double dose), you may fall unconscious and be unrouseable for up to 4 or 5 hours. One of the great dangers of a mild GHB overdose is being taken to a hospital and treated as though you have OD'd on a depressant. This can include stomach pumps, breathing tubes and IV's, not to mention huge hospital bills.

# GHB can be dangerous when used improperly or when mixed with other depressants. Combining a normal GHB dose with alcohol can trigger the overdose reaction of unrouseable sleep. GHB has been attributed to a few deaths in the US, but most have involved other drugs (most commonly, alcohol) or high doses. Be safe...avoid mixing GHB with alcohol.

# If you take 3 - 4 times the normal dose, you may find yourself unconscious and vomiting.

# If you take more than 3-4 times your normal dose, there is risk of death.

# If you take GHB, make sure your companions know what you're taking, how much of it you've taken and the associated risks.

Thats just fucking pointless and stupid. Many opiate addicts don't have access to anything like GHB or its analogues, or even benzo's. Even if they do, then you're making another addiction for yourself and will just prolong the shittiness. Theirs other much more simple and easy ways to minimize the pain of withdrawal. Even as simple as tapering slowly, moderate excercise, fresh air, and using dietary supplements to stimulate production of endogenous opiates and whatever else your body will be lacking. Taking time off from work or school may also be neccesary to minimize stress. One could also switch to buprenorphine which is easier to taper with. Unless your coming off a high dose of tramadol, then it's a whole different game.

trading addictions is how i got hooked on opiates in the first part. i honestly think that any method of getting off of anything is dependant on whether or not you really wanna quit what you're doing. someone told me a story of audie murphy and i dunno if it's true, but it's a cool little anecdote... he ended up getting hooked on morphine after the war. realizing this and being the badass that he was, he decided to lock himself in a room with two things, a bible and a pistol, until he got well. the bible was for strength of some sort and the pistol was for the event that he was unable to kick the morphine. after 5 days in that room alone he walked out off the dope.

I don't think 24/7 G dosing for a week is necessarily better than a taper. With that much dopamine build-up, you're quite likely to go psychotic for several days which in the end could cause lots of trouble.

Saying that, I don't think the GABA-B downregulation after one week would be significant, so if you have antipsychotics (or a shit ton of benzos) on hand for the rebound, a week of GHB use would indeed be a good way of getting off many addictions.

I've got 2 words for you NARCOTICS ANONYMOUS.

Well, he's done 8 grams before, so 3 really isn't all that hardcore for him.

Perhaps you should be a little more careful when throwing around definitive doses for a chemical that can kill you. Not everyone does outrageously hardcore amounts of drugs that you do, so maybe a bit of precaution would be nice.

Before anyone uses this 'method', go here:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ghb/ghb_dose.shtml

GHB is extremely dose sensitive. Each person has a different response to each dose level. To safely verify the correct dosage, ALWAYS START LOW.
True this, I'm surprised you didn't mention it....like, cmon. :o

that shit doesnt help me at all.. its a god damn cult that im forced to go to.

It's not like he's clean from opiates anyway. He'll be nodding again in a month.

I lol'ed

But if I don't want to quit... you got mad hookz rite?

First you have to know this guy named King Lamus...

So if your method worked so much better than suboxone why are you looking for a suboxone prescription?

Your method sounds horrible and it sounds like that would justs set people up for a few others bad habits and possible addictions.

How to quit any drug:
1. Buy 2 ounces of marijuana.
2. Smoke a bowl/joint every few hours, every day, until you run out.

There's no step 3. And if you want to quit smoking pot, you just don't buy it. If you think you're addicted to pot then you are just a moron.

who the fuck said anything about POT ADDICTION... wtf.
also; smoking pot wouldn't even help me quit opiates alone.

who the fuck said anything about POT ADDICTION... wtf.
also; smoking pot wouldn't even help me quit opiates alone.
one of two things would happen for me..

1. i'd actually smoke it and forget about dope and go through my withdrawls and be off it.

2. i'd slang all the weed and have an infinite source of money to go buy dope.

When I smoked weed in benzo withdrawals, it made things 10x worse. I'd assume the same for opiates with the w/d anxiety.

Weed sort of reduced GABAergic activity, which is what causes the anxiogenesis. That's probably why it made it worst.

I don't know about GHB, but I've quit cold turkey using high doses of xanax and smoking myself retarded at least 3 times, and it definitly helps. I pretty much slept through it. It's simply, xanax (or any decent downer) calms you down and allows you to sleep, and weed allows you to eat and minimizes some discomfort. I don't think GHB is necessary. Xanax and weed is all you need!