Coke + heroin is the obvious choice. But coke is short lasting and expensive.

Are there any likely serious effects of combining an upper and downer for a few hours?

Can I get some of your experiences on this mix? I read the only two erowid had.

i havent personally done it but i can't imagine it being all that dangerous given you do it in respsonsible doses.

From what I've understood it's dangerous. Tread with caution.

Why not heroin+meth?

*waits for TheBlackPope to come in shouting about MDMA not being an upper*

I've done both oxycontin and heroin on mdma. I find MDMA (or whatever they put in the E pills that pass around here) overpowers both oxycodone and h. However for the comedown, h works pretty well.

As much as I consider MDMA to be an upper I have to agree with blackpope on the point that it doesnt make your heart go crazy like coke or make you tweak out to fuck like amphetamine. Its still an upper but not as powerful as the stims commonly considered an upper. I would imagine this combo would be much safer than coke+heroin or speed+heroin.

I have personally done oxy (20mg low tollerance) + 200mg MDMA (Low tollerance) and found it to be a very nice combination although it wasnt overly spectacular as a combination, the MDMA over powers the oxy a little and I would prefer them by themselves or to save the oxy for the comedown/crash.

As much as I consider MDMA to be an upper I have to agree with blackpope on the point that it doesnt make your heart go crazy .

what the fuck kinda mdma are you taking? that shit makes my heart goes just as fast if not faster.

its really fucking euphoric...


i mean euphoric. don't expect to do much, just expect to feel. cigarettes required...



oh, and have someone, you'll get a motor mouth along the way...

yeah in my experience when mixing opiates with ex (although not heroin) its good. Ya know how sometimes there are low points in the roll (at least i feel like that sometimes) it completely gets rid of that its just all good . If you have enough to split it into two doses i say do one when you hit the plateau and then some more later for the come down(hence there wont be a come down :p). but if you only have enough for one just do one big dose once you've been peaking for a while. best of luck.

I haven't done mdma and heroin but I did do mdma + oxy (and some nitrous & weed and cigs & booze but that's superfluous)

one of the best highs of my life evar

that's how everybody i know died. "it's called speedballing" you stupid mfers! don't forget to throw in some lader bars.

most people I know of have died of cancer, not speed balling

Just for the record, I could not recommend this combination enough. I did it on new years.

Smoke a bit of weed, only to make the hammer stronger, but not too much to dull the MDMA. Drink a beer or two, and roll with it. Most bliss ever.

Two thumbs up.

what the fuck kinda mdma are you taking? that shit makes my heart goes just as fast if not faster.

Good clean MDMA not speed/meth. Iv only had my heart rate increace from speedy pills but with clean MDMA it hardly changes for me.

opiates are always great for the comedown. the most oxy i would do while still rolling is 10 mg, cuz it dulls down the roll if u do too much.