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Cunning Linguists Languages and their use. What languages do you speak and why? What do words really mean? Can you say things in one language that you can't say in another? Should there be a national language? How many languages should a person know and what are they?

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Old 2008-12-27, 13:45
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Default 'Me and my friend' vs 'my friend and I'

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Why is it considered 'correct' English to say 'My friend and I' and not 'Me and my friend?' They are exactly the same. My guess is that it would be it stemming from an outdated politeness custom whereby the speaker puts their subject before themselves. Any thoughts?
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Old 2008-12-27, 15:04
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Default Re: 'Me and my friend' vs 'my friend and I'

You actually brought up a very good point.

I would really love to learn how a language evolved into its present day form, how it is influenced by the way the speakers thought/think. Kind of like etymology, except for the language itself, not the individual words.
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Old 2008-12-27, 16:55
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"Me and my friend went to the mall." Remove the "and my friend" part. Would you say "Me went to the mall?" No, that's why you say, "My friend and I went to the mall." Because "I went to the mall" is proper English.
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Old 2008-12-27, 18:38
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Default Re: 'Me and my friend' vs 'my friend and I'

Me = object pronoun.

He gave the ball to me.

I = subject pronoun

I went to the airport.

You would never say "He gave the ball to I" or "Me went to the airport", because I and Me play different grammatical roles.

When you say "my friend and I", it is a compound subject, but the subject of the sentence nonetheless, thus you use "I"

"I and my friend" is still grammatically correct, but cumbersome to say and almost never used.
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Old 2008-12-27, 23:06
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Default Re: 'Me and my friend' vs 'my friend and I'

Cool. Sometimes I think about how much a native English speaking person could teach themselves by teaching it to foreigners. You would have to analyse everything, and develop an explanation as to why such a concept exists, other than "because thats just how it is."
 
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