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Old 2008-12-26, 18:22
red_foreman red_foreman is offline
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Default Difference between high mg oxy and low

Im going to get a hold of some oxy tonight, anywhere between 20mg to 80mg, but all in 10 mg pills. i heard that 10 mg pills are stronger than the larger pills, (8 tens will fuck you up more than 1 80) can anyone attest to this? and if i havent done opiates for about a month, i was never a very heavy user...how many mils would i need to achieve a very relaxed state i can mediate in? thanks.
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Old 2008-12-26, 18:50
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(8 tens will fuck you up more than 1 80) can anyone attest to this?

No, that's completely stupid.
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Old 2008-12-26, 19:28
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The brain/nervous system are mechanistic. Put in x amount of chemical, recieve the same effect every time, barring tolerance..
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Old 2008-12-26, 20:03
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I heard the blue ones makes you trip bawls
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Old 2008-12-26, 23:16
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Eating 8 Perc 10's and eating an 80 whole, then yes the 8 percs would hit stronger because OC's are time released. But they are no higher in opiate content.
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Old 2008-12-26, 23:45
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Yea the same mg is the same mg unless you have IR pills because even when an time released pill has its coating off and crushed it will still not hit as hard (close but not the same) as IR pills, and sense you are an opiate noob I would not take 80mg because you will prob get sick. Id take 30-40mg and youd be high as hell than save the rest for later use.
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Old 2008-12-26, 23:52
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Originally Posted by h0ppinlowrider
Yea the same mg is the same mg unless you have IR pills because even when an time released pill has its coating off and crushed it will still not hit as hard (close but not the same) as IR pills, and sense you are an opiate noob I would not take 80mg because you will prob get sick. Id take 30-40mg and youd be high as hell than save the rest for later use.


You will also scam everyone..
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Old 2008-12-27, 03:45
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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80 mgs is 80 mgs of oxy. the one difference there could be is the 10 mg oxys are instant release the 80mg oxycontins is a continuous release med that lasts up to 12 hours. But if you crush a oxycontin it will pretty much take care of the time release mechanism and it would be about equal to 80mgs of instant release.
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Old 2008-12-27, 04:02
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You know there might be some creedence to this.

I've heard that there are certain "tolerances" for pills on how much of the active drug has to actually be in it to be considered legit.

For example: A 10 mg diazepam [valium] may only actually contain 8 mgs of the active ingredient.... or a 5 mg percocet may actually only contain 3 1/2 mgs of oxycodone.

So maybe there are some "strong" 10mg oxys, or maybe there are just good batches of them that contain the maximum amount of the active drug.
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Old 2008-12-27, 04:04
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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You know there might be some creedence to this.

I've heard that there are certain "tolerances" for pills on how much of the active drug has to actually be in it to be considered legit.

For example: A 10 mg diazepam [valium] may only actually contain 8 mgs of the active ingredient.... or a 5 mg percocet may actually only contain 3 1/2 mgs of oxycodone.

So maybe there are some "strong" 10mg oxys, or maybe there are just good batches of them that contain the maximum amount of the active drug.


the only thing i have head is mallinkrodt pharms uses oxycodone freebase in there percocet pills so it has like 4mgs in it and the equals 5 mgs of oxy HCL.But no that is NOT true for the mostpart, i am sure that some pills are messed up and under or over dosed or quality control is not always properly maintained and enforced.

Usually these brands have the proper dose but there medicines may not absorb as well and that results in lower plasma concetrations and blood serum levels. The fda requires that the generic drugs reach the same absrobtion and plasma and blood serum levels as the name brand drugs. So it could have less medication in the pill as lng as it reaches equal absorbtion as the brand name drug. the oxycodone freebase is a example of that.

"The 5 mg, 15 mg and 30 mg tablets contain the equivalent of 4.5 mg, 13.5 mg and 27.0 mg, respectively, of oxycodone free baseThe 5 mg, 15 mg and 30 mg tablets contain the equivalent of 4.5 mg, 13.5 mg and 27.0 mg, respectively, of oxycodone free base"
www.dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?id=8635
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Old 2008-12-27, 06:46
Aces N 8S Aces N 8S is offline
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the only thing i have head is mallinkrodt pharms uses oxycodone freebase in there percocet pills so it has like 4mgs in it and the equals 5 mgs of oxy HCL.But no that is NOT true for the mostpart, i am sure that some pills are messed up and under or over dosed or quality control is not always properly maintained and enforced.

Usually these brands have the proper dose but there medicines may not absorb as well and that results in lower plasma concetrations and blood serum levels. The fda requires that the generic drugs reach the same absrobtion and plasma and blood serum levels as the name brand drugs. So it could have less medication in the pill as lng as it reaches equal absorbtion as the brand name drug. the oxycodone freebase is a example of that.

"The 5 mg, 15 mg and 30 mg tablets contain the equivalent of 4.5 mg, 13.5 mg and 27.0 mg, respectively, of oxycodone free baseThe 5 mg, 15 mg and 30 mg tablets contain the equivalent of 4.5 mg, 13.5 mg and 27.0 mg, respectively, of oxycodone free base"
www.dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?id=8635

No dude. Its saying that the pills contain Oxycodone HCL, which is equivalent to that much of the free base form. Not that the pills contain free base instead of the salt.

If the pills are supposed to contain the HCL they must contain exactly that.
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Old 2008-12-27, 07:31
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i just threw up my last oxy


what is this shit.
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Old 2008-12-27, 08:12
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With no tolerance(depending on body weight, and some people seem to have a natural tolerance) 20mg or so should set you straight.
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Old 2008-12-27, 16:31
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You will also scam everyone..

It dosent bug me, but I find it funny that people like you who don't know whole stories and have no evidence or proof that I ever did anything seem to believe shit that was said by random people. I have yet to see one peice of proof that I actually scammed anyone or took anyones money without doing what I said I was going to do, Plus In this thread I gave a valid answer like I do in most threads and people post random replies that have nothing to do with the thread.

Get a life,
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Old 2008-12-27, 19:07
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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It dosent bug me, but I find it funny that people like you who don't know whole stories and have no evidence or proof that I ever did anything seem to believe shit that was said by random people. I have yet to see one peice of proof that I actually scammed anyone or took anyones money without doing what I said I was going to do, Plus In this thread I gave a valid answer like I do in most threads and people post random replies that have nothing to do with the thread.

Get a life,Dude you scammed people stfu. We don't need proof. this isnt COURT.
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Old 2008-12-28, 21:12
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I've heard a couple of fucking idiots say shit like this.

This one bitch I used to know argued over and over that a .5 mg Alprazolam would give her a different high than a 2 mg Alprazolam. She even tried to say it got her way higher. After roughly a half hour of arguing, I threw the VCR at her and told her she was a stupid, uneducated, ignorant cunt and walked out of the house. I should have burned her house down.
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Old 2008-12-28, 21:34
OxyMaximus OxyMaximus is offline
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Default Re: Difference between high mg oxy and low

if you get the 80s you have to take the outer coating off then use a hose clamp as a grinder you will get more out of it that way!
Cool
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Old 2008-12-28, 21:48
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Default Re: Difference between high mg oxy and low

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I've heard a couple of fucking idiots say shit like this.

This one bitch I used to know argued over and over that a .5 mg Alprazolam would give her a different high than a 2 mg Alprazolam. She even tried to say it got her way higher. After roughly a half hour of arguing, I threw the VCR at her and told her she was a stupid, uneducated, ignorant cunt and walked out of the house. I should have burned her house down.


We all know that the green bars are better than the other ones too! People are retarded when it comes to pills.
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Old 2008-12-28, 22:00
OxyMaximus OxyMaximus is offline
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the only real diff. is the mg. do 8 10s then try a 80 its all the same i've done it i've been doing oxy for years
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Old 2008-12-29, 03:11
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Originally Posted by Testikilla
I've heard a couple of fucking idiots say shit like this.

This one bitch I used to know argued over and over that a .5 mg Alprazolam would give her a different high than a 2 mg Alprazolam. She even tried to say it got her way higher. After roughly a half hour of arguing, I threw the VCR at her and told her she was a stupid, uneducated, ignorant cunt and walked out of the house. I should have burned her house down.


maybe you should try listening to her and stop being so fucking high and mighty

the quality and high of different benzos can vary greatly from brand to brand
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Old 2008-12-29, 05:48
Aces N 8S Aces N 8S is offline
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maybe you should try listening to her and stop being so fucking high and mighty

the quality and high of different benzos can vary greatly from brand to brand

That is rediculous.

Why would a chemical made by one company be any different from THE EXACT CHEMICAL made by a different company?
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Old 2008-12-29, 06:05
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It dosent bug me, but I find it funny that people like you who don't know whole stories and have no evidence or proof that I ever did anything seem to believe shit that was said by random people. I have yet to see one peice of proof that I actually scammed anyone or took anyones money without doing what I said I was going to do, Plus In this thread I gave a valid answer like I do in most threads and people post random replies that have nothing to do with the thread.

Get a life,

Fag, people don't keep there evidence around with them when buying drugs online. It is incriminating you dumb fuck. If enough people call you a scam from enough forums, your a god damn scam. You got kicked off RTS really fast (which isn't that big of a deal because he is an asshole who calls everyone a scammer) and even people on the other forums talked shit about you. I could understand if RTS supported you and they didnt, or vice versa, but your just a stupid asshole you scammed people. Why don't you clarify your queer situation?

Then on Totse you make these posts about once every 2 weeks claiming you have a source for this drug or that RC. Obviously your intention is to get noobs to email you, ask for the source, you give them your alternate email and scam the shit out of them.

Fucker.
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Old 2008-12-29, 15:32
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That is rediculous.

Why would a chemical made by one company be any different from THE EXACT CHEMICAL made by a different company?

Not all street drugs are FDA regulated. There are many small brands that skimp to save money. They also will add other benzos to give their product an edge or be able to use less xanax (2+2=5 when mixing benzos making it economical to do this.)

Even in the US with FDA regulation often that 1 mg football won't be the same as a generic 1 mg football
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Old 2008-12-29, 20:56
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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Originally Posted by red_foreman
Im going to get a hold of some oxy tonight, anywhere between 20mg to 80mg, but all in 10 mg pills. i heard that 10 mg pills are stronger than the larger pills, (8 tens will fuck you up more than 1 80) can anyone attest to this? and if i havent done opiates for about a month, i was never a very heavy user...how many mils would i need to achieve a very relaxed state i can mediate in? thanks.


you're right. the OC 10's have a filler called "Methelenydioxyperkocetamine" which is a potentiator for oxycodone. they don't put it in the higher dosages because it could be dangerous, although it doesn't potentiate it THAT much.. i'd say you'd get about 110% of the buzz of a single oxy 80..
 
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