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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-12-26, 05:23
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Weed, is all you need!
Fuck Acid, Fuck Mushrooms, Fuck Ecstasy, Fuck Opiates, Fuck Alcohol, ect. ect.
Out of all the drugs ive done ive had some amazing times, Ive also had some REALLY shitty ones. At the end of the day, i have decided Weed is all you need. Its seriously Gods gift to man......one of them anyway.
There are so many varieties, there are so many different types of highs, and its one of the least harmful drugs!
It has the least amount of jail time
It encourages creative thinking
It makes things just "Trippy enough" to not need someone watching you!
Its relatively cheap, if you keep your tolerance down.
The closest thing to a hangover is feeling tired and lazy.
(The list can go on and on)
Hands down yall, Weed is all you need. Fuck all that other bull shit that includes drama, and unnecessary risks. Ill admit that it cant compare to the first time you Roll on MDMA. And ive had some amazing adventures on Acid.......but harder drugs are something you should only try once, then move on.
Merry Christmas yall, and may Marijuana be legal one day for the benefit of Man Kind, and the Economy thats in the shitter
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 2008-12-26, 05:30
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
Fuck YOU.
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#3
 2008-12-26, 05:33
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
Fuck off arsehole.
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#4
 2008-12-26, 05:35
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
i love me some sticky green trees but i also have love for my pills and my brews
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#5
 2008-12-26, 05:40
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
Stoners aren't creative they're retards. Weed is all you need if you're a lame faggot. And btw weed is harder than acid if you're talking about physical damage. Fuck you.
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#6
 2008-12-26, 05:40
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
Fuck YOU.
^^^this. Technically you don't even need weed. Weed is illegal and some would say addictive. Weed is to sobriety as hard drugs are to weed. You smoke because you'd rather be high than sober. Others smoke meth because they'd rather be high on meth than high on weed. It's just another step up on the get-fucked-up chain. Opiates are addictive for a reason. Because they're awesome.
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#7
 2008-12-26, 05:42
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
Weed is the one drug i feel truly addicted to, i agree, weed is the best drug all around but fuck that try once and move on shit. Just don't do it enough to get addicted/sick/etc. and your good. Know your limits that's all there it to it
But fuck yea toke till i die
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#8
 2008-12-26, 06:09
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
All drugs have their benefits. But yea weed helps me get by everyday without having to off someone
^I think i'm also addicted to weed, I've done some pretty risky things to get stoned
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#9
 2008-12-26, 06:10
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
each can be used as a different tool...its really up to you what you are trying to do.
And your list of pros for weed could be said for many other drugs if you aren't a stupid shithead kid.
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#10
 2008-12-26, 06:13
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
These "zOmGGG w33d izZ t3H bEztOrz!! lololol" threads need to stop. Weed isn't some kind of divine gift to mankind, it isn't the greatest natural occurrence and it isn't the cure all for life's ills. It is a plant that provides some favorable effects to some people. Grow up. Get some life experience. Understand that you aren't a fucking philosopher/poet/artist/genius because you smoke weed.
Also, realize that alcohol<weed<every other drug.
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#11
 2008-12-26, 06:14
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
i really don't understand why anybody likes pot. well, maybe i can see how people would derive some happiness from it, but not how some are so fanatical about it. or even how anybody could end up "addicted" to it. it produces no euphoria, other than perhaps a giggling fit. it confuses me to the point of idiocy, it takes FOREVER to get out of your system so a drug tests are an issue, and you can't really "binge" on it because every time you smoke after you've already started, the effects diminish. its scent sticks to the clothes and it reddens the eyes so intoxication is obvious to others. it kills motivation, dulls the mind and slows reaction times, so sports are out of the question. it flattens the killer instinct, so martial arts are out of the question as well. it makes me lazy, tired, and i always over-eat. and the paranoia, oh god, the paranoia! that's a cop! we smell like weed! that guy's following us! it almost completely ruins the experience.
worst of all...it sure as hell doesn't help me forget my problems like an oxy 80 does!
seriously, if you want to know the meaning of euphoria, do a decent opiate or coke or an amphetamine. jesus christ. the sensation is orgasmic.
i understand that all drugs affect everyone differently, but this is me. for me, the negatives outweigh the positives.
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#12
 2008-12-26, 06:16
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
Ecstasy is fun.
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#13
 2008-12-26, 06:16
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
^^^this. Technically you don't even need weed. Weed is illegal and some would say addictive. Weed is to sobriety as hard drugs are to weed. You smoke because you'd rather be high than sober. Others smoke meth because they'd rather be high on meth than high on weed. It's just another step up on the get-fucked-up chain. Opiates are addictive for a reason. Because they're awesome.
Although what your saying does hold signifigance, I dont think it is completely true.
Yes, weed can fulfill the need for a substance to inebriate yourself on, it can do much more, and do positive things.
If you use marijuana spritually, hell yes. If you use it as a way to get fucked up, it may be bad, but consider one who tries to refrain from drinking and recognizes the spiritual benefits of marijuana, and tries to replace the need to drink with it. Then it is good as well.
But of course, if the primary reason behind an individual using marijuana is to get fucked up, then its only a matter of time before their tolerance goes up, and they realize they can do drugs for cheaper (at least now) that get you more fucked up. But its all in how you look at it/use it.
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#14
 2008-12-26, 06:19
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
Typical stoner bullshit.
Alcohol and strong psychedelics for the win
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#15
 2008-12-26, 06:21
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I love weed, I love acid, I love ecstasy, I love alcohol, and I love my opiates. I'm sick and tired of retarded stoners who think weed is superior to all other drugs. FUCK YOU BITCH keep your dumbass opinions to yourself
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#16
 2008-12-26, 06:27
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
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Originally Posted by spl1ff
i really don't understand why anybody likes pot. well, maybe i can see how people would derive some happiness from it, but not how some are so fanatical about it. or even how anybody could end up "addicted" to it. it produces no euphoria, other than perhaps a giggling fit. it confuses me to the point of idiocy, it takes FOREVER to get out of your system so a drug tests are an issue, and you can't really "binge" on it because every time you smoke after you've already started, the effects diminish. its scent sticks to the clothes and it reddens the eyes so intoxication is obvious to others. it kills motivation, dulls the mind and slows reaction times, so sports are out of the question. it flattens the killer instinct, so martial arts are out of the question as well. it makes me lazy, tired, and i always over-eat. and the paranoia, oh god, the paranoia! that's a cop! we smell like weed! that guy's following us! it almost completely ruins the experience.
worst of all...it sure as hell doesn't help me forget my problems like an oxy 80 does!
seriously, if you want to know the meaning of euphoria, do a decent opiate or coke or an amphetamine. jesus christ. the sensation is orgasmic.
i understand that all drugs affect everyone differently, but this is me. for me, the negatives outweigh the positives.
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You are missing so much. First of all, it does produce euphoria. Secondly, even if it doesnt produce euphoria for you, for many it produces very "psychedelic", if you can accept that term in an objective manner, effects. Of course, I do completely agree that the effects diminish siginfigantly, even after using it more than once in the same day. But no, it doesnt fuck up sports. Many althletes smoke marijuana. Alot of the worlds best skiers smoke, I dont follow alot of other sports, but I know that for a fact. And uh, if you really knew about martial arts, youd know that martial arts has nothing to do with the killer instinct, besides defending against it. A good martial artist never has a "killer instinct" and looks for fights. And when presented with a fight, they dont look to kill, but to defend and get out of the situation.
But it does not kill motivation. If your an unmotivated person, and all you want to do is sit around and watch tv/play vid games/whatever, then yes, smoking weed is great for you, cause its one more thing you can do without getting up and actually doing anything, but thats a personality, and smoking marijuana does not make one develope that personality. The paranoia is something you can get over if you have the mind to do it. The first time i smoked killer weed was only like my second or third time smoking weed and actually getting high from it, and I fucking BUGGED THE FUCK OUT, but at the same time i was extremely euphoric and psychedelic, and seeing fuzzy trails and shit, and just got this feeling like, wow this is was my parents/other heads were feelin back then. I definitly bugged out, but maybe im just lucky i have a strong grasp on my mind because i was able to handle it, but I just reminded myself its only weed, threw on some music or TV and calmed the fuck down and tried to enjoy it. And now if that ever does happen im fine, especially when the anxiety is only due to strong weed (especially then, since i know its just weed, but even when it is just my regular anxiety i beleive my experience with dealing with it on weed gave me a chance to understand how to deal with it in general).
And finally, many people dont use marijuana to "forget about their problems". It doesnt work like that. And if they do, then they are right on their way to using harder things such as oxys like you mentioned to deal with them anyway. Which in sucha case marijuana is not the issue at all.
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#17
 2008-12-26, 07:13
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
understand that weed is just a safe way to get fucked up. you're not immmune from becoming a fucktard though. and i would be a fucktard now but I am just dumber than I was, which is still smart. Now, all my H-Town bitches go and pop it for Pimp.
and if you need weed then technically you need heroin because.. you don't need weed!
So.. if there was a better way to explain it.. i'd draw you a sliding inverse bar, where if you move the bar closer to "lower risk" the other bar goes toward 'higher gain'. then i'd tell you to start understanding life.
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#18
 2008-12-26, 07:56
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
awwwhh man don't say fuck mushrooms....
i love mushrooms....... :D
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#19
 2008-12-26, 08:00
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
understand that weed is just a safe way to get fucked up. you're not immmune from becoming a fucktard though. and i would be a fucktard now but I am just dumber than I was, which is still smart. Now, all my H-Town bitches go and pop it for Pimp.
and if you need weed then technically you need heroin because.. you don't need weed!
I like what you are saying. Alot of people try to say weed is completely harmless, which is retarted, anyone who is experienced with drug cultures knows some people who have been negativly affected by weed, but it is a much better way to get fucked up, and i know some people who have that need to get fucked up, but restrict it to weed. I know people who NEED weed, and my first reaction is thats fucked up, but then i see that they really just need a drug, and im glad that they can restrict their "need" to just weed.
But yes, you are completely right in saying if you "need" weed than you "need" heroin because that need is really the same compulsion.
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#20
 2008-12-26, 08:35
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
I hate super pro-weed hippie assholes , but I also hate elitists that say weed is for pussies/isn't a drug/sucks because you can't inject it into your dick...just because something doesn't make you nod out doesn't mean it isn't useful.
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#21
 2008-12-26, 08:50
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
OR you can utilize self control, OP, and dabble in all kinds of stuff and exploring all the delicacies of the psychoactive cafe.
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#22
 2008-12-26, 09:11
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
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Originally Posted by Marine1209
Fuck Acid, Fuck Mushrooms, Fuck Ecstasy, Fuck Opiates, Fuck Alcohol, ect. ect.
Out of all the drugs ive done ive had some amazing times, Ive also had some REALLY shitty ones. At the end of the day, i have decided Weed is all you need. Its seriously Gods gift to man......one of them anyway.
There are so many varieties, there are so many different types of highs, and its one of the least harmful drugs!
It has the least amount of jail time
It encourages creative thinking
It makes things just "Trippy enough" to not need someone watching you!
Its relatively cheap, if you keep your tolerance down.
The closest thing to a hangover is feeling tired and lazy.
(The list can go on and on)
Hands down yall, Weed is all you need. Fuck all that other bull shit that includes drama, and unnecessary risks. Ill admit that it cant compare to the first time you Roll on MDMA. And ive had some amazing adventures on Acid.......but harder drugs are something you should only try once, then move on.
Merry Christmas yall, and may Marijuana be legal one day for the benefit of Man Kind, and the Economy thats in the shitter
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Someone only smokes once a week.
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#23
 2008-12-26, 12:02
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
WTF? since when did totse become fucking above the influence?    you fucking bastards!
Weed is one of the greatest fucking plants to ever make its way out of the ground! not all people choose to enjoy it, but this gives you no right to look down upon those that do, furthermore the statements that people who smoke marijuana are a bunch of retards go to show your complete and utter ignorance in this subject.
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#24
 2008-12-26, 13:54
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
Opiates are my favorite kind of feeling dammit! Weed is alright but you can't limit yourself to two or three kind's of inebriations; namely weed, booze and possibly nicotine which are really the only socially mainstream ones aroud here.
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#25
 2008-12-26, 15:35
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
Go buy another Marley t-shirt you dirty hippie.
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#26
 2008-12-26, 16:11
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
Weed and liqs is all you need and a video game.
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#27
 2008-12-26, 16:58
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
It's gotten to the point where my drug of choice is weed... the effects are predictable, its chills me out and its easy/cheap for me to get. I vaporize, so I usually don't smell... I don't really get red eyes, and don't act like a retarded when i'm high, I just feel good.
However, I don't think I could ever give up my shrooms/LSD- at least on occasion. I love weed, I really do... but everytime I take a trip (every few months) its clear that theres a whole lot more out there worth experiancing than just the herb... you're limiting yourself man.
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#28
 2008-12-26, 18:02
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
I realize that I have less experience than a lot of you here, but I've had opioids, benzos, alcohol, and nitrous. For me, weed still beats all of them. It's not some stoner loyalty to weed, I've evaluated all the drugs I've used so far, and it's just a personal favorite. People's bodies are different, so different people are going to like different drugs. My brain just happens to be wired for cannabinoids I guess.
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#29
 2008-12-26, 18:14
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
you're a fucking idiot for saying that lsd and mushrooms and the like are worse than weed. weed is something that you take to feel good. only a truely retarded person that has no business taking hallucinogens would say this. they may not be your favorite, but no one really wants to hear some social reject's opinion on drugs we love. fucking idiot.
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#30
 2008-12-26, 20:25
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
And finally, many people dont use marijuana to "forget about their problems". It doesnt work like that.
Yeah, for me weed just amplifies emotions. If I'm happy, I become happier. If I'm depressed, I just kinda obsess over my problems and become more depressed.
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#31
 2008-12-27, 01:15
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
Weed fucks with you more than you realise.
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#32
 2008-12-27, 01:15
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
Fuck YOU.
agreed.
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#33
 2008-12-27, 01:28
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
who gives a fuck about how illegal it is, your still going to jail one way or another if your caught... so dont get fucking caught...
Acid > Weed as far as an occasional thing...
weed is a great everyday kick back and fuck it drug....
But in all honesty i could get a 10 strip of acid for the amount i would pay for an 1/8th of dank... that could provide me with anywhere from 12-120 hours of fun depending on how i feel like going with it... an 1/8th of weed would last me a couple of days smoking every now and then... I have gotten a small amount of happiness in my life from weed, but can you say you ever really learned anything useful from it?
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#34
 2008-12-27, 01:30
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
Fuck Alcohol,
kiss my ass brah
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#35
 2008-12-27, 01:48
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
Yeah man I like weed and all, but I love my benzo's and opiate combo's. Maybe if I would have just stuck with the weed I wouldnt be addicted to opiates right now.
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 2008-12-27, 02:23
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
weed's great and all, but id get bored as hell just smoking weed all the time. variety is key. mushrooms, e, acid, K, booze ... the list goes on of drugs that are ten times as fuck as weed.
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 2008-12-27, 17:23
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
I stick to weed as a general rule.. Given how I feel "addicted" to weed, I don't think I should try meth, heroin, coke, etc.
But if I could find at least some decent rolls, i'd do em.
and i've already done shrooms and i'm down for those and acid..
and most pharms. Weed isn't ALL YOU NEED but you can't go wrong with it.
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#38
 2008-12-27, 19:14
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
Weed is not that great. It can be fun to kick back and relax while smoking and it helps me sleep, but at the end of the day there are a lot of drugs I'd rather spend my money on.
To each his own though, enjoy your boring drug. The only thing I really like about weed is that you can smoke it everyday without to many adverse effects(most people anyways). But ya, most other drugs > weed, in my opinion.
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#39
 2008-12-27, 22:04
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
weed is my drug of choice, but i could not defend that its greater then all else. it affects everyone differently. i've seen people live successful and productive lives while smoking weed everyday as a reward for a job well done. I also seen weed get someone expelled from school then when he got a full-time job he got fired for the same thing. so basicly weed ruined his life. i dont think weed makes you un-motivated, the person was likely un-motivated before smoking. i dont think weed affects athlete's much either, their have been some amazing athletes who failed their drug test because of weed. and if you think weed is bad for martial artist's then you should look up the Pride FC fight of Nick Diaz vs. Takanori Gomi, Diaz failed the drug test for weed but he kicked ass. it should be on youtube. but ya, weed has many pro's and con's so its not perfect or the best in anyway. but it is right for me, my favourite things to do is watch movies and play video games, and weed makes that so much better. if it wernt for weed i would be an alcoholic and weed keeps me out of trouble, so im all for it. its great for social occasions too.
-KEEP ON SMOKIN' IN THE FREE WORLD
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 2008-12-28, 02:11
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Weed is not that great. It can be fun to kick back and relax while smoking and it helps me sleep, but at the end of the day there are a lot of drugs I'd rather spend my money on.
To each his own though, enjoy your boring drug. The only thing I really like about weed is that you can smoke it everyday without to many adverse effects(most people anyways). But ya, most other drugs > weed, in my opinion.
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This. But I like hittin' the bong, too!! :D ;)
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#41
 2008-12-28, 16:31
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
My take on weed:
when you have taken opes weed on its own looses something and feels a bit empty.
when you have taken psyches weed gains much more of a head fuck element to it.
having taken psyches and opes, weed is no longer as desirable but can still be fun.
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 2008-12-28, 19:12
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
Also, realize that alcohol>weed>every other drug.
yeah right, alcohol is really not great at all, i dont know how people think its so great... i mean its not even that enjoyable or relaxing, i think it fucks up my head too much with dizziness and confusion to be really relaxing...now opiates, thats fucking relaxing/best drug ever
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#43
 2008-12-30, 10:15
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
I once new a very wise man. This was back when I would still freak out when someone spilled a crumb on the ground and I would freak out about it. The man said, "weed is just weed" and of course I told him he was an idiot. Five years later it is true, weed is just weed. Once you have drank a fifth every knight for six months straight. Did meth for four years. And shot up or ingested any opiates you could get your hands on you will realize too "weed is just weed"
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 2008-12-30, 17:14
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
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Originally Posted by Marine1209
Fuck Acid, Fuck Mushrooms, Fuck Ecstasy, Fuck Opiates, Fuck Alcohol, ect. ect.
Out of all the drugs ive done ive had some amazing times, Ive also had some REALLY shitty ones. At the end of the day, i have decided Weed is all you need. Its seriously Gods gift to man......one of them anyway.
There are so many varieties, there are so many different types of highs, and its one of the least harmful drugs!
It has the least amount of jail time
It encourages creative thinking
It makes things just "Trippy enough" to not need someone watching you!
Its relatively cheap, if you keep your tolerance down.
The closest thing to a hangover is feeling tired and lazy.
(The list can go on and on)
Hands down yall, Weed is all you need. Fuck all that other bull shit that includes drama, and unnecessary risks. Ill admit that it cant compare to the first time you Roll on MDMA. And ive had some amazing adventures on Acid.......but harder drugs are something you should only try once, then move on.
Merry Christmas yall, and may Marijuana be legal one day for the benefit of Man Kind, and the Economy thats in the shitter
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Weed has got to be the SHITTIEST drug that ever fucking existed.
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#45
 2008-12-30, 17:49
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
yeah right, alcohol is really not great at all, i dont know how people think its so great... i mean its not even that enjoyable or relaxing, i think it fucks up my head too much with dizziness and confusion to be really relaxing...now opiates, thats fucking relaxing/best drug ever
I meant the opposite, check the edit. ;)
I don't enjoy alcohol very much, in fact I often get sick from it. Opiates on the other hand have never done me wrong (besides minor withdrawal).
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#46
 2008-12-31, 03:34
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
IMO shrooms are the greatest drug
colors are amazing
touching anything feels fantastic
its way funner then weed
just dont drink orange juice on a shroom trip
but some good weed is good every once in a while
ps indica and alcohol makes a nice combonation
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#47
 2008-12-31, 07:04
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
Opiates are 100x more euphoric and enjoyable than weed.
Besides weed stays in your system for a long ass time for those of us who are drug tested
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#48
 2008-12-31, 10:55
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Re: Weed, is all you need!
I've never found weed enjoyable. One of my friends always tells me how he honestly thinks he's addicted to weed and cant even go a day without it. I think that's pretty sad and I dont relate to it at all because I simply do not like the "effects" i get from weed. Then again, this same kid thinks I'm a druggie because i use pills every once and a while, while he's smoking every day. I think the person who is smoking weed everyday opposed to someone who does a pill once every 2 weeks is a lot worse.
Just do what you want and don't let judgemental close minded assholes tell you how to live your life and you will live a prosperous good life. :)
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