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Old 2008-12-25, 16:36
LegalizeRedEyez LegalizeRedEyez is offline
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Default 30 mg of Morphine Pills

Yea i cant spell w.e. But my friend is getting 30 mg of morphine pills. They are not hydro morphone, but his buddy has a prescription because he was an ex Heroin addict. Whats a good dose for these?
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Old 2008-12-25, 16:52
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Default Re: 30 mg of Morphine Pills

30mg. With no tollerence you will get a buzz but thats about it, or are you getting more than 1 30mg pill? Id start with 30mg than see how it feels than take either another half or a whole pill after 30minutes or so depending on how you feel.
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Old 2008-12-25, 17:47
LegalizeRedEyez LegalizeRedEyez is offline
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Default Re: 30 mg of Morphine Pills

I got three of them and i got a decently big tolerance i doubt 3 would even touch me then.
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Old 2008-12-25, 21:18
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Default Re: 30 mg of Morphine Pills

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Originally Posted by LegalizeRedEyez
Yea i cant spell w.e. But my friend is getting 30 mg of morphine pills. They are not hydro morphone, but his buddy has a prescription because he was an ex Heroin addict. Whats a good dose for these?



Just for the record, hydromorphone is not the same thing as morphine.
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Old 2008-12-27, 04:02
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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Default Re: 30 mg of Morphine Pills

morphine sulfate is about equal mg fo mg to hydrocodone. 30mgs orally ingested is a decent starting dose for someone with no tolerance. 30mgs of morphine equals about 20mgs of oxycodone.
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Old 2008-12-27, 05:39
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Default Re: 30 mg of Morphine Pills

Just for the record, hydromorphone is not the same thing as morphine.

the first thing ive read about hydromorphone is that its 10 times as potent as morphine
so i always thought it was like what oxy is to hydrocodone?


morphine sulfate is about equal mg fo mg to hydrocodone. 30mgs orally ingested is a decent starting dose for someone with no tolerance. 30mgs of morphine equals about 20mgs of oxycodone.

yea but morphine oral bioavailability is 30%
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Old 2008-12-27, 06:15
Aces N 8S Aces N 8S is offline
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Default Re: 30 mg of Morphine Pills

oxycodone, hydrocodone, and hydromorphone are all different chemicals.

30mg hydrocodone = 20mg oxycodone = 7.5mg hydrocodone = 30mg morphine

yea but morphine oral bioavailability is 30%

That is why morphine and hydrocodone are equivalent. If they were both IV then morphine would be much stronger than hydrocodone. Oral hydrocodone is equal to oral morphine because oral morphine has such shitty bioavailability.
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Old 2008-12-27, 06:23
neil420 neil420 is offline
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Default Re: 30 mg of Morphine Pills

, but his buddy has a prescription because he was an ex Heroin addict.

Why would an ex heroin addict have a script of morphine? It's like giving an ex crackhead coke.
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Old 2008-12-27, 19:12
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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Default Re: 30 mg of Morphine Pills

the first thing ive read about hydromorphone is that its 10 times as potent as morphine
so i always thought it was like what oxy is to hydrocodone?




yea but morphine oral bioavailability is 30%
Oxycodone is 1.5x stronger than hydrocodone.
Oxycodone is to oxymorphone as hydrocodone is to hydromorphone.Oxycodone and hydrocodone are both partial prodrugs, meaning some of the medication is converted to oxymorphone of hydromorphone by the liver.
hAHA. oK, it IS EQUAL IN STRENGTH ORALLY. 30mgs of morphine= 30 mgs of hydrocodone ORALLY. If you were to inject the morphine it would be STRONGER than the hydrocodone.
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Old 2008-12-27, 20:15
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Default Re: 30 mg of Morphine Pills

oxycodone, hydrocodone, and hydromorphone are all different chemicals. 30mg hydrocodone = 20mg oxycodone = 7.5mg hydrocodone = 30mg morphine


30mg hydrocodone = 7.5mg hydrocodone ????
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Old 2008-12-27, 20:20
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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Default Re: 30 mg of Morphine Pills

30mg hydrocodone = 7.5mg hydrocodone ????

i think he meant hydromorphone.
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Old 2008-12-28, 00:10
ShroomLove ShroomLove is offline
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Default Re: 30 mg of Morphine Pills

30mg hydrocodone = 7.5mg hydrocodone ????
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