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Old 2008-12-25, 11:31
allthegoodnamesweretaken allthegoodnamesweretaken is offline
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There recently came to be a rather large/strong supply LSD straight from Cali. Two hits came to be in my posession and it was one of the most mind-blowing trips ever. I feel as though I can say this, seeing as how I have experienced over 100 hits. There came a point about six hours into the trip where I was uncertain of whether I had actually taken LSD or not, and at that exact moment all of the visuals snapped directly into focus and it seemed almost as though I were "hyper-aware". My mind felt like only Blue Oyster Cult can describe it in the song "Mind on Fire". The first hit was mic'd at 300~ whilst the second was 100~200. There is also a question as to whether it was actually LSD or DOC(for lack of a better definition, a sister chemical). My question is, has this happened to anyone else? And/or has anyone heard of the term "Steal your face"?
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Old 2008-12-25, 11:44
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What was the print on them because they sound familiar
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Old 2008-12-25, 11:51
allthegoodnamesweretaken allthegoodnamesweretaken is offline
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First one was a Recycle sign, the second one was a Lightning Bolt. From what I was told, straight from Family. And, I have no reason to doubt 'im, other than... y'know common sense or something. : P
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Old 2008-12-25, 21:08
vivida.vis vivida.vis is offline
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Was there any sort of taste or feeling on our tongue when you ate it?

Can you describe what the visuals were like.

What sort of trails were you getting.

Was there a mental fuck involved at all or was it just like an amped up brain and visuals?

Did you puke?
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Old 2008-12-25, 22:41
paranoid716 paranoid716 is offline
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Yes, Steal your face is a grateful dead album, or the design on the cover idk not a deadhead.


Anyway, I have gotten a few sheets of Steal you pussy, which is the skull with the red and blue surroundings, but instead of the lightening bolt, it was a pussy. I photograph of a pussy, not a cartoon or a drawing a very distinct picture of a nasty 70's flop pussy..


Very good stuff, never had it tested or anything for exact mic content. But im sure it wasnt the most potent shit ever

Good stuff though
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Old 2008-12-25, 23:43
allthegoodnamesweretaken allthegoodnamesweretaken is offline
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Originally Posted by vivida.vis
Was there any sort of taste or feeling on our tongue when you ate it?

Can you describe what the visuals were like.

What sort of trails were you getting.

Was there a mental fuck involved at all or was it just like an amped up brain and visuals?

Did you puke?


It tasted bitter, made one of my friends gag, I rather enjoyed it.

Visuals were... hrrm, Flow-y when not concentrating on any one thing. People's faces were "sloughing" off, almost, it seemed as though they were flowing from one position to another.

Mental fuck, oh yes. I'm not sure of any way to describe it other than, yes, atomically mind fucked. I hope that makes sense.

Trails on cigarettes were lingering for about 2-3 seconds, just floating in mid-air.

Nope, didn't puke. Taste was good, visuals were very nice, mind-fucking introspection. I threw in the Steal Your Face thing, 'cause it was mentioned quite a bit during that time. And, I was wondering if perhaps there was any connection whatsoever. It surpassed the "good trip/bad trip", it was just an epic journey, if you will.
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Old 2008-12-25, 23:52
Obscura Obscura is offline
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It tasted bitter, made one of my friends gag, I rather enjoyed it. Well, there you go. Not acid. Most likely DOx. How long did the trip last?
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Old 2008-12-26, 00:23
fretbuzz fretbuzz is offline
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could have been a DOx, but i've never heard them decribed as an "atomic mind-fuck".
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Old 2008-12-26, 00:33
electric_wizard electric_wizard is offline
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I had a similar experience with some plain white blotters. Expected that I had been ripped off, but was deadly wrong. Though it wasn't acid, I got my $5/hit worth, thats for damn sure. Anyway, I found out later that what I had been given was indeed DOC.
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Old 2008-12-26, 00:45
paranoid716 paranoid716 is offline
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Well just because it had a bitter taste doesnt mean its for sure not acid.

Whatever the blotter was printed with could have a bitter taste, or maybe if some dufus diluted it with something nasty it couldve been that, or residue rubbed onto the blotter..


I mean unless he tasted what the blotter was dosed with and it was bitter/metallic/etc the taste test isnt really definitive.


Or im an idiot.. obviously you will choose this one
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Old 2008-12-26, 01:53
Flawless Logic Flawless Logic is offline
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Due to the taste I'm going to hazard a guess and say DOx, however it could be caused by impurities.

Did it have any other sort of taste to it, copper, iron, shit?
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Old 2008-12-26, 02:41
electric_wizard electric_wizard is offline
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Well just because it had a bitter taste doesnt mean its for sure not acid.

Or im an idiot.. obviously you will choose this one

No, you're right.

OP: I recommend doing a cross-comparison of the effects of the two drugs. Or just buy some more, since you evidently enjoyed it.
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Old 2008-12-26, 06:39
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Utah: Mountains, Mormons, Meth
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How long did the trip last?

Always the best way to check.
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Old 2008-12-26, 10:20
36fuckin5 36fuckin5 is offline
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JoePedo's ghetto TLC FTMFW!
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Old 2008-12-26, 23:27
allthegoodnamesweretaken allthegoodnamesweretaken is offline
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Well, there you go. Not acid. Most likely DOx. How long did the trip last?

Well, it lasted for ... a rather long while. Uhhh, I'm going to have to say around 12-18 hours. A bit longer than usual. Could it have just been really potent?

I'm not going to think you're an idiot for giving me your opinoin, so no worries there. Uh, it tasted very bitter, and a slight hint of copper (like when you bite your cheek, and you taste blood? that kinda copper) e

I'm planning on doing another test here soon to figure out exactly what it is. So, I'll definetly keep updated. :D
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Old 2008-12-27, 00:06
36fuckin5 36fuckin5 is offline
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Definitely a RC.
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Old 2008-12-28, 22:51
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Utah: Mountains, Mormons, Meth
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Could it have just been really potent?

No. It was definitely a DOx.
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Old 2008-12-29, 20:47
allthegoodnamesweretaken allthegoodnamesweretaken is offline
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I'm sure it's already been answered elsewhere, but, what's the difference between DOx and lsd? Also is there anyway that a trip could last about two weeks? Just a curious question.
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Old 2008-12-29, 21:03
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JoePedo's ghetto TLC FTMFW!
Why even bother with that when a single drop of Ehrlich reagent on a tiny corner of a blotter hit will tell you if it is LSD or not, and depending on deepness of color, potency.
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Old 2008-12-29, 23:42
fretbuzz fretbuzz is offline
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Originally Posted by allthegoodnamesweretaken
I'm sure it's already been answered elsewhere, but, what's the difference between DOx and lsd? Also is there anyway that a trip could last about two weeks? Just a curious question.


It works differently. The DOx family are psychedelic amphetamines. They require a small dose [around 1 to 3mg] to have effects, last for 12-48 hours [lasts for more than 2 days with high doses] and gives an extremely light "acid-like" trip. Because of the duration, the low dose required and the fact that it will give mild visual distortions and wavy visuals, DOx can be sold in the form of blotters trying to be passed off as LSD. It's interesting because increasing the dose just prolongs the drug's mild trip and does nothing to increase the intensity.

Anyone who has done real LSD will know something is up. It tastes very bitter, the onset can and usually takes up to 3 hours and the trip is distinguishably different from an LSD trip. It's a mild, speedy and dirty sort of trip. I didn't like DOB very much, and I have a friend who claims DOI was no fun either.
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Old 2008-12-30, 00:20
silverballs silverballs is offline
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It's interesting because increasing the dose just prolongs the drug's mild trip and does nothing to increase the intensity.


I have to disagree with this statement, just from personal experience with DOM, maybe it's just DOM and the halogenated DO's behave differently but beleive me when i say there's noticeable increase in intensity between 5mg and 10mg, let alone the 30-something a mate of mine took once.

Also if you happen to get some serious leg cramps during your trip, it was a DO'.
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Old 2008-12-30, 01:27
FullMetalJacket FullMetalJacket is offline
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Originally Posted by paranoid716
Well just because it had a bitter taste doesnt mean its for sure not acid.

Whatever the blotter was printed with could have a bitter taste, or maybe if some dufus diluted it with something nasty it couldve been that, or residue rubbed onto the blotter..


I mean unless he tasted what the blotter was dosed with and it was bitter/metallic/etc the taste test isnt really definitive.


Or im an idiot.. obviously you will choose this one


The only acid I've ever had that wasn't completely tasteless has been some dark brown blotter a while ago (hand-laid sheets with lavendar crystal, had a kind of tangy taste to it), and minty-tasting liquid.
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Old 2008-12-30, 02:01
fretbuzz fretbuzz is offline
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I have to disagree with this statement, just from personal experience with DOM

True I should have mentioned I unknowingly ingesting DOB sold as LSD. Once. The dosages might be inaccurate since what I said only pertains to DOB. Not entirely sure what a common dose for the other analogues would be.
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Old 2008-12-30, 10:48
leet0x leet0x is offline
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DOM sounds like a very interesting drug, has anyone tried the DOx chemicals and can describe the pros/cons? Also, which DOx chemical do you think was the most LSD-like?
My guess would be STP/DOM
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Old 2008-12-30, 11:47
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You definitely had angel sperm man. Without a doubt.
 
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