Am I the only one who gets this? In every group there's always that person while on hallucinogens who makes those over the top, way too graphic homo jokes. Replace homo with kid/animal/grandma/what ever fuckers, but I have this happen a lot. Some one always gives off the creeper vibe, like their inner homo-demon has arisen.

I've tripped with hundreds of people. I've gotten homo vibes, pedo vibes, psychopathic vibes, rapist vibes, everything. I even met a dude who turned into a fucking 8 year old girl while on acid. He'd just switch between a 25 year old ex soldier, and a little embarrassed 8 year old girl. That was definitely the creepiest.

Any one?

Ive definitely seen the side to someone who turned out attracted to animals, that fucking freaked me out. I mean i tried to laugh it off because it just didn't sit well in my head at the time, what do you say to that?

Some people definitely show the homosexual vibes and its as if they've let their inner demons out, there's always the side to yourself you keep hidden from people and i think if they feel safe and understood, they fee as if its okay to let those things out. Ive only seen that a few times, but most of the time the male on the receiving end will get awkward and try to move away or laugh it off nervously.

Its like people let their inner selves, the deepest thoughts and desires, pleasures, interests, all come out when they're on hallucinogens. I like it for the fact that you can delve deeper and see more of someone you enjoy and really care for but there's been times ive caught people being untrue to me and then giving me the real stories while tripping. I guess its a good way to catch people out.. But yeah its freaked me out on more than one occasion.

Especially the homo's whats up with that?

Hah. It doesn't take hallucinogens. Sometimes even when people are sober their little walls slip up and you catch a vibration of their deepest insecurities and shames.

EDIT: Sometimes it doesn't even come with shame or insecurity. Some people enjoy their sickness.

so you're saying...drugs make people feel different than they usually do?

wow...what's up with that?

i dont like when people get on coke or x and start gettin all homo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innate_bisexuality


Social theory (along with psychology) has shown that sexual preference is culturally programmed. There really isn't a true preference for anyone, it has to do with fear and parental identification/shunning.

So when you break down the superego (exactly what psychedelics do) the true subjective side of sexuality is exposed...

So being gay actually isn't something you're born with?

So being gay actually isn't something you're born with?

The jury ain't in really.

There are literally hundreds of different current theories about human sexuality and its origins. This is a theory, but it certainly is not "the theory" like you're presenting it.

So being gay actually isn't something you're born with?


Keep in mind we're just animals until we internalize cultural values....You can't be born with a cultural value...Perhaps a child internalizes homosexuality instead of heterosexuality, that person would probably say "I was born gay" but the truth is you really can't...Like I said, we're just animals. Now, thats not to say you're born straight. You're just an animal and you operate on feeling, the notion of straight and gay are culturally programmed concepts. Nature has no biases.

I firmly believe any child can become straight or gay with the right conditioning...Sexuality is subjective and pertains to the culture one is a part of....

However, a lot of evidence shows that the sexuality you identify with (typically the parent of the same sex) is the sexuality you are "born with" and that is something which cannot be naturally changed later in life...

But in my opnion cultural brainwashes us to be "normal", meaning you can brainwash someone to be abnormal...its really all the same thing

Keep in mind we're just animals until we internalize cultural values....You can't be born with a cultural value...Perhaps a child internalizes homosexuality instead of heterosexuality, that person would probably say "I was born gay" but the truth is you really can't...Like I said, we're just animals. Now, thats not to say you're born straight. You're just an animal and you operate on feeling, the notion of straight and gay are culturally programmed concepts. Nature has no biases.

I firmly believe any child can become straight or gay with the right conditioning...Sexuality is subjective and pertains to the culture one is a part of....

However, a lot of evidence shows that the sexuality you identify with (typically the parent of the same sex) is the sexuality you are "born with" and that is something which cannot be naturally changed later in life...

But in my opnion cultural brainwashes us to be "normal", meaning you can brainwash someone to be abnormal...its really all the same thing

So you're saying since my dad is a fag..I've got teh gayz too? Or is this just a theory?

So you're saying since my dad is a fag..I've got teh gayz too? Or is this just a theory?


Don't you know what you like?

Don't you know what you like?

Ummm well yes erm..I aint no fag. but you know sometimes when you see yourself in the mirror and your like " damn im sexy" is that gay??

Hey guuise, I'm tripping balls. I just wanted to tell you I'm gay. Homo out.

Ummm well yes erm..I aint no fag. but you know sometimes when you see yourself in the mirror and your like " damn im sexy" is that gay??

no



being aware that something is attractive is different than being attracted to that thing

Keep in mind we're just animals until we internalize cultural values....You can't be born with a cultural value...Perhaps a child internalizes homosexuality instead of heterosexuality, that person would probably say "I was born gay" but the truth is you really can't...Like I said, we're just animals. Now, thats not to say you're born straight. You're just an animal and you operate on feeling, the notion of straight and gay are culturally programmed concepts. Nature has no biases.

I firmly believe any child can become straight or gay with the right conditioning...Sexuality is subjective and pertains to the culture one is a part of....

However, a lot of evidence shows that the sexuality you identify with (typically the parent of the same sex) is the sexuality you are "born with" and that is something which cannot be naturally changed later in life...

But in my opnion cultural brainwashes us to be "normal", meaning you can brainwash someone to be abnormal...its really all the same thing

I'm certainly agreeing with this. Sexuality is just one of the many barriers that hallucinogens break down.
For me it isn't a "homo" thing, but more of a neutral one. Shrooms and acid kind of take down that "I wanna bone you" block that I get when I'm talkin to some girls.

Love is a chemical, sexuality is a choice ... a choice, a matter of preference and practicality.

Do not let society fool you otherwise: love is little more than an involuntary response to things outside of control of any person, and lust is ... lust. Lust is lust and doesn't need to mean any more.


that is, of course, just my opinion. And like assholes, everybody's got an opinion.

I get this thing with 2c-e that makes me think my friends are making gay references all of the time, its fucking weird. They'll say something as a joke (totally non-sexual) and I sit there awkwardly thinking they made some obscene gay sex joke. And my friend tends to make parallels with rape in everyday situations.

The jury ain't in really.

yes yes it is, you are born gay or straight, 90% of people fall somewhere in between the 2 and aren't 100% one or the other. that is all

sexuality is a choice ... a choice, a matter of preference and practicality.

And like assholes, everybody's got an opinion.

and yours fucking reeks

Since when is preference a choice?

I prefer strawberries to grapes, but I didn't choose to. I prefer zombie films to vampire films, but I didn't choose to. I prefer Totse to 4chan, but I didn't choose to.

How's that any different from saying "I prefer reaming ass to pounding vag, but I didn't choose to"?

And arquin, roll with it.

My weirdest experience is when me and some other friends ate a ridiculous amount of hashbrownies.
Like 2-3grams good hash per person.
Needless to say, we were fucked up, and when you eat it, the trippy aspects of THC comes out, so we were sorta tripping balls.

But anyhoo, Im sitting tying my shoes, when my best friend since 7th grade comes and says "Bean, I want to make loooove to you" as it had been a running joke the last week.
But there was something off about the way he said, but I just laughed it off, then he like came closer and leaned his forehead against mine and said "you know...Im kinda serious here..."
I was like "no man...no..."
He was like "oh, well, hehe just kidding! hehe Im not gay hehe!"
Then he walked off.

I don't hang out much with him anymore, he became really bitter after that night, dunno if it has anything to do with him coming onto me, but it might...

what's wrong with being gay?


anyway it's obvious that it removes their inhibitions and makes them not hold back their homosexuality.

what's wrong with being gay?

Nothing. It's just fucking creepy when you're all suss about it. Either be a homo, or don't. Don't lull people into a false sense of security then hit on them when they're fucking tripping. It just ruins the trip.

I've tripped with the same group for years and never has anyone done or said anything homo. Just don't trip with faggots it's easy.

i think i really creeped out my friend's girlfriend when we were alone [i was on shrooms, her sober] (she was tripsitting me in a truck bed while our friends went into a party to get beer)
because she made a comment like "i think i'm gonna get raped" because there were like 2 big black guys walking by, and i guess i thought that made it ok to talk about rape so i started talking about it until she said stop :(


But oh well, I did alot of weird shit that night.


oh and yea, one of my friends lil brothers (who is 14) smoked some spice with us for his first time that night too.. he got to acting homo and shit when he's usually really chill.. he was taking this gay lovers thing too far and he batted his eyes at me and i really didn't know what to think on shrooms. i didn't want to embarass him but i didn't wanna look gay. i ended up tackling him.

Tripping is all about breaking down cultural constructs and celebrating the beauty and joy of being a conscious creature. It is an extremely sensual experience and what better way to spend it than making love and sharing a cosmic connection with someone, anyone, be they man or woman. As long as they're consenting then it's all good.

Ya'll are too uptight, clearly the psychedelics are not having the desired effect.