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Old 2008-12-21, 19:11
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Default ATTN: Anyone with access to solubilities (Merck Index etc.)

Could you look up the solubility of DMT HCl in water (acidic water) and the solubility of the freebase in xylene or other nonpolar solvents?? That would be amazing....
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Old 2008-12-21, 23:06
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Default Re: ATTN: Anyone with access to solubilities (Merck Index etc.)

I'm not sure about the HCl, but the freebase is roughly 1 gram per 30 ml of hot naptha.
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Old 2008-12-22, 22:59
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Free online Merck Index: https://themerckindex.cambridgesoft.com/TheMerckIndex/default.asp?formgroup=basenp_form_group&dataaction=db&dbname=TheMerckIndex
enjoy;)
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Old 2008-12-23, 00:56
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seems to need a subscription...
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Old 2008-12-23, 02:59
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seems to need a subscription...


lulz... forgot about that, only had to login once. Try one of these http://www.bugmenot.com/view/cambridgesoft.com
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Old 2008-12-23, 09:55
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Default Re: ATTN: Anyone with access to solubilities (Merck Index etc.)

Logging in isn't the problem - you can set up a free account.

The database actually needs a subscription...
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Old 2008-12-23, 21:55
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Logging in isn't the problem - you can set up a free account.

The database actually needs a subscription...


I regularly use that site, and I just logged on with one of the passwords on bugmenot. I don't remember exactly where I entered it, but now I have free access to the Merck Index 14th ed.
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Old 2008-12-24, 01:51
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From sciencemadness

Link for Merck Index 14th ED

* Publisher: Merck
* Number Of Pages: 2564
* Publication Date: 2006-11-03
* ISBN-10 / ASIN: 091191000X
* ISBN-13 / EAN: 9780911910001
* Binding: Hardcover


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Serial: 311-324285-8925
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Props to the member anoopai

EDIT: Other members seem to be having trouble getting it to activate. If you go on SM in the references forum there is a thread with like 20 links to Indexes 12, 13 and 14.
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Old 2008-12-24, 07:02
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Originally Posted by HeaT
Could you look up the solubility of DMT HCl in water (acidic water) and the solubility of the freebase in xylene or other nonpolar solvents?? That would be amazing....


I just realized no one answered your question yet, sorry about that!

Monograph number: 03262
Title: N,N-Dimethyltryptamine
CAS Registry Number: 61-50-7
CAS Name: N,N-Dimethyl-1H-indole-3-ethanamine
Additional Names: 3-[2-(dimethylamino)ethyl]indole; DMT
Molecular Formula: C12H16N2
Molecular Weight: 188.27
Percent Composition: C 76.55%, H 8.57%, N 14.88%
Literature References: Occurs naturally in plants with hallucinogenic properties. Isoln from the leaves of Prestonia amazonica (Benth.) Macbride (Haemadictyon amazonicum Spruce & Benth.), Apocynaceae: Hockstein, Paradies, J. Am. Chem. Soc. 79, 5735 (1957). Metabolism: St. Szára, Experientia 12, 441 (1956); B. R. Sitaram et al., Biochem. Pharmacol. 36, 1509 (1987). Relationship between hallucinogenic activity and electronic configuration: Snyder, Merril, Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA 54, 258 (1965). Synthesis: I. Fleming, M. Woolias, J. Chem. Soc. Perkin Trans. 1 1979, 829. Differential interaction with serotonin receptor subtypes: A. V. Deliganis et al., Biochem. Pharmacol. 41, 1739 (1991). Fluorometric detection: O. Jules et al., Anal. Chim. Acta 169, 355 (1985). Review of biosynthesis, metabolism and bioactivity: S. A. Barker et al., Int. Rev. Neurobiol. 22, 83-110 (1981).
Properties: Crystals, mp 44.6-46.8°; also reported as plates from ethanol and light petroleum, mp 46° (Fleming, Woolias). bp 60-80°. pKa 8.68 (ethanol-water). Freely sol in dil acetic and dil mineral acids.
Derivative Type: Methiodide
Properties: mp 216-217°.
Note: This is a controlled substance (hallucinogen): 21 CFR, 1308.11.

That's all they have online :(
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Old 2008-12-25, 05:18
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Well damn. I was hoping for more info on the freebase in nonpolars... I've heard 1g is freely soluble in 100mL naphtha at RT but that's all i've got.
Now, freely soluble in acetic/mineral acids means that a litre of pH 2 HCl/water soln. will easily dissolve 10g, correct?
Also this is really basic, but i got kicked out of school before we did equilibrium and had to teach myself... pKa refers to equilibrium, correct?
Last one- what are your all's thoughts on freebasing DMT out of a water solution and filtering, using ammonia
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Old 2008-12-25, 12:10
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Default Re: ATTN: Anyone with access to solubilities (Merck Index etc.)

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Originally Posted by HeaT
Well damn. I was hoping for more info on the freebase in nonpolars... I've heard 1g is freely soluble in 100mL naphtha at RT but that's all i've got.
Now, freely soluble in acetic/mineral acids means that a litre of pH 2 HCl/water soln. will easily dissolve 10g, correct?
Also this is really basic, but i got kicked out of school before we did equilibrium and had to teach myself... pKa refers to equilibrium, correct?
Last one- what are your all's thoughts on freebasing DMT out of a water solution and filtering, using ammonia


1) Ammonia wash
2) Ice cold DH2O wash (vac filtered)
3) Recrystallized from boiling methanol
4) Consume :)
 
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