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Old 2008-12-20, 20:20
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Default Really good E? Possible hallucinogenic contents?

So I took some blue buddha's (yeah I know the print/color means nothing) last night and I've taken E 7 times and never felt anything like this.

After 45 min of ingestion things began to look more crisp, clear, and colorful. It felt like a come up to a very intense shroom trip. I felt the MDMA very strongly but there was another component to these pills. My hallucinations were like that of a shroom trip.... just lacking the interesting patterns I usually see. Trees grew up into the sky, shadows morphed into weird grotesque objects, walls and objects morphed, and everything felt like I was experiencing it for the first time. Time went by very fast, minuets were like seconds.... but everything thing was so amazing, but at times it got so intense it was kind of scary along with the great feeling of the MDMA.

Could this pill have had 2c-i or 2c-b in it?

I didn't expect much from this pill... I paid 4$ for it and usually I pay around 7$ to 10
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Old 2008-12-20, 20:47
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the first time I met extacy it was a pink pill with three dots on it they said they were ketamine base and everyone around me was like I have never done more than one and I have been taking them every week for 2 years of coarse I pop one wait 30 min and nothing so I was like give me another they were like no dude no one has ever done 2 especially there first time so I say fuck it I want one more I pay for it pop it in my mouth as soon as I swallow it BAMMMMMM I am in another fucking world vivid hullicinations there rave lights started fucking with my mind and I was just rolling around on the ground for like 3 hours I can hardy remember anything except for one point I got up and started getting scared of the music they were playing the next day they said I was fucking the air the all called me air fucker for like 2 months but they dont know what i went through crazyest moment ever much more life changing then lsd has ever been for me my first expirance with xtc was crazy I have never had hullcinations since but I think it was the k in them
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Old 2008-12-20, 21:04
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Default Re: Really good E? Possible hallucinogenic contents?

Probably 2c-b. Did you snort any or just pop them?
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Old 2008-12-20, 21:07
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Default Re: Really good E? Possible hallucinogenic contents?

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Originally Posted by callmeshocker
the first time I met extacy it was a pink pill with three dots on it they said they were ketamine base and everyone around me was like I have never done more than one and I have been taking them every week for 2 years of coarse I pop one wait 30 min and nothing so I was like give me another they were like no dude no one has ever done 2 especially there first time so I say fuck it I want one more I pay for it pop it in my mouth as soon as I swallow it BAMMMMMM I am in another fucking world vivid hullicinations there rave lights started fucking with my mind and I was just rolling around on the ground for like 3 hours I can hardy remember anything except for one point I got up and started getting scared of the music they were playing the next day they said I was fucking the air the all called me air fucker for like 2 months but they dont know what i went through crazyest moment ever much more life changing then lsd has ever been for me my first expirance with xtc was crazy I have never had hullcinations since but I think it was the k in them


how the fuck can you type crap out like that. im amazed you use spaces.
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Old 2008-12-20, 21:08
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Default Re: Really good E? Possible hallucinogenic contents?

how the fuck can you type crap out like that. im amazed you use spaces.

I am on an onscreen keyboard so I rarely use punctuation
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Old 2008-12-20, 21:17
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Default Re: Really good E? Possible hallucinogenic contents?

Dude, I put more punctuation into text messages.

Anyway, it seems like your pills were partly MDMA since you claimed everything seemed very "crisp" and looked like you were really seeing it for the first time. I find MDMA to have a touch of psychedelic aspects but nothing that would give those kinds of visuals. I did E before I did shrooms and the shroom trip felt like the slight trippyness of MDMA greatly intensified [at least the onset felt that way. once I started peaking I didn't think that anymore]. Your bean was definitely cut for $4 a piece though.
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Old 2008-12-20, 21:35
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Default Re: Really good E? Possible hallucinogenic contents?

I ate the pill. I don't really like snorting E.

Idk... I know I've done MDMA before (by use of a test kit) and this had MDMA but there was something else in it. I felt like every time I blinked a couple minuets went by. And then I would look around and everything would be clear and crisp.. but then objects would start to grow to crazy sizes and turn into things that I knew weren't really there.

It was some crazy stuff.

Obviously the pill was cut. But I know it wasn't cut with meth at least (I'm not a fan of speed)... I had no jaw clenching what so ever. But I do have 2 peculiar white sores.... but my tongue/jaw doesn't hurt at all like on the E I've been getting lately except for those 2 sores. And I don't feel dumb like I usually do after taking E. Sometimes I'll feel a little slow for a couple of days after taking E and either it hasn't hit me yet or it isn't going to.
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Old 2008-12-20, 21:42
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Default Re: Really good E? Possible hallucinogenic contents?

mdma has a tryptamine base
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Old 2008-12-20, 21:49
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Default Re: Really good E? Possible hallucinogenic contents?

I have had blue buddhas before they were pretty good but def not as good as the yellow buddha
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Old 2008-12-21, 00:51
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Default Re: Really good E? Possible hallucinogenic contents?

mdma has a phenethylamine base

fixed
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Old 2008-12-21, 01:05
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its close
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Old 2008-12-21, 02:13
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Default Re: Really good E? Possible hallucinogenic contents?

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I have had blue buddhas before they were pretty good but def not as good as the yellow buddha


Orange Buddhas ;)
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Old 2008-12-21, 16:25
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I had my first properly hallucinogenic experience on MDMA last Friday night. It was also the most MDMA I've taken in a single night by a fair margin.

Background. We'd gone to a rave at a club I've been to several times and taken MDMA at several times. We were meeting someone we know inside who always supplies good MDMA, and I picked up a gram as I'm giving another mate a half as a Christmas present. It came in a flimsy wrap instead of a baggie, so I just dumped the entire gram in a bottle of water and told myself I'd save half. The MDMA looked nice; large brownish-grey crystals, a little darker than normal but definitely good-looking stuff. It was about 11:30 by this time, we'd been in there since just before 9pm and it was due to end at 8am so I had a long night ahead, but the main act was coming on at midnight so I decided to take a couple of biggish sips right away so I could come up hard for the main DJ's intro, which I did without looking (I was quite drunk and high at this point, by the way). It tasted foul, as a gram of MDMA in 300ml of water (the bottles are tiny in this club) is likely to do. When I actually looked at the bottle, I'd swallowed about a quarter of it; 75ml of water isn't a lot. I got a moment of panic when I realised that I must have drunk 200-250mg of MD in 30 seconds, but quickly calmed myself down and found a couple of mates. I told 'em what I'd done, offered them some MD from my bottle (they only had half a gram between them for the night) and danced for a while 'til the DJ changed.

I'd got the timing perfect; I was feeling great but not rushing when the main act took to the turntables, and his intro tune brought me up so fast and made me rush real hard. In a good way, I felt absolutely amazing. After five minutes I could feel myself coming up further and getting hot, so I took my shirt off and just bobbed for a while, then came up even harder and started to get a bit disorientated and uncomfortable. Again I didn't panic, just told some mates I was going out for a bit and went to the outdoor smoking area where I cooled down and met some chill people. I went in and out a few more times, but each time I got into the heat of the club I'd rush too hard and have to go back outside. I ended up spending an hour sitting out there with these people before a mate came out, it'd been about 2 hours since I came up first and I was feeling fine so I had another small swallow and went back inside. This is where it started to get messy; a few huge tunes came on and I had a 3-4 more small swallows of MD without really thinking about it over the next hour or so. Without really noticing, I was pretty much down to half a bottle, although I'd given another little sip to the mates sharing the half. I was great for another hour or so, then the strobe lights started to trip me out and blind me and I got a bit uncomfortable again.

I asked if anyone wanted to come to the bar and made my way there with two mates following me. Hallucinations begin here. I got blinded by the strobes again 'cos we were walking towards them, then saw one of my mates walking quickly to the edge of the dancefloor. I followed them, but they disappeared. I turned around and the mate I just followed was behind me and asked why I was going so fast. It confused the fuck out of me, and I'm not sure if I even responded before walking upstairs and out into the smoking area again. I had a cigarette to calm me down (bad idea; cigarettes make me rush really hard) then came inside, had another swallow of MDMA without thinking and chatted incoherent shit to one of the guys from earlier. I went back on the dancefloor and one of my friends was crying (boy trouble); I sat down with her for a while and made sure she was alright, but it upset my still-mainly-happy mindset a bit. I had another swallow of MDMA at this point, using the dumb, drugged logic that it'd make me feel better again in half an hour. Two minutes later I looked at her face and it was tattooed with small black dots, all over. completely real. I turned around and a random guy's face was swimming around and pretty much a blur apart from his nose, which was huge and pointed and didn't appear to change perspective no matter which way he pointed his head. Another friend's t-shirt started to swim too. The strobe lights kept going intermittently and I went half-blind, then abruptly I'd regain my vision again but be in a different part of the club to the one I thought I was in. It was literally like I was teleporting 5 or 10 metres at a time in random directions, which was the first thing to really fuck with my head. I got off the dancefloor with extreme difficulty; they'd put the fog machines on, and the fog in there is seriously thick. The lights made it solid-looking and blood-red, and I wouldn't see people until they were about five inches from me. I walked into a few people and managed to get out, then stood near an air conditioning fan and tried to cool off.

When I thought I felt better, I went back to the dancefloor. You have to walk down three steps to get onto it; as soon as I reached the top one, I went pretty much completely blind and couldn't even see my feet or legs. I walked down the stairs literally feeling for the steps with my feet, which took about a minute for three steps. I navigated the blood-red fog of invisible people again and went to the back of the dancefloor near another huge A/C unit, found some friends and raved a bit with them. This particular point of the club is very cool indeed, and as such a lot of messy people go there to cool down and come down a little. After about half an hour of this, I was feeling relatively normal and drank some more MDMA, shared a little more with two friends... down to about a quarter-bottle by this point, it's roughly 4am. Half an hour later I started rushing again, despite being directly in front of a huge cold fan. I realised this was bad, went to put my drink down on a shelf which disappeared when I was about to put my drink down on it, turned around, realised I wasn't even in the same part of the club I thought I was, put my drink down on a different, non-hallucinatory shelf and tried to get out of the club. I was a complete mess by this point; didn't know what was going on, couldn't walk straight, horrible and unstoppable grinding gurn on the go, half-blind and unable to carry on a coherent conversation. I went and sat outside, and carried on rushing for 10 more minutes despite being in a thin t-shirt at 4am on a London street. A guy I'd met earlier stayed outside with me for a bit when I said I was overly messy, then I went inside with him when I cooled off and he very kindly bought me a J20 (I gave him my last couple of cigarettes later as a thank-you) and chatted for quite a long time. I felt a lot better by this point, so we went our separate ways again and I found my friends on the cool spot on the dancefloor. It was about 5:30 by this point I think, maybe 6, I was feeling happy and euphoric again and I finished my MDMA with those friends. I'd guess I had roughly .75g over the entire night. The very bottom of the bottle was really dirty-tasting, I think a lot of large crystals had only partially dissolved and were sitting at the bottom.

Half an hour later the exact same thing happened. I rushed madly, was completely confused and disorientated, starting seeing things that weren't there (at one point the dancefloor looked like it was covered in metal guard railings penning everyone in), I got incredibly paranoid and started thinking people who were just dancing were moving towards me, I kept feeling hands trying to lift my wallet, phone, water etc. out of my pockets even though I'd turn around and nobody would be there. I went to the adjacent bar (which was extended to be part of the club for a night) and sat with some friends, but I couldn't speak coherently. I looked at one guy I knew and his eyes were jumping about and vibrating; I don't know if that was a hallucination or if he'd just had far too many substances himself, but it freaked me out. I remember getting two texts during the night, but both times I couldn't focus on them at all and I think my eyes were shaking in their sockets for a couple of hours. I was painfully aware that I looked like those fucked people at raves who've clearly had too much that you just avoid, a state I've never been in before. I went and sat in the lounge in the second room with another friend who'd peaked earlier and was getting tired, people I knew came and went but I wasn't even really aware of it. Every pair of eyes I looked at was completely distorted and unnerving, and I kept thinking that people sitting next to me were speaking when they weren't. I thanked a random guy for waking me up even though I hadn't been asleep and he hadn't said anything to me. I thought my friend who'd been crying earlier was crying the whole night, even though she was completely fine. I came down very slowly, kept my buzz through the journey home and was spaced out and confused for the whole of the next day. Never again will I take that much MDMA.

That turned into a very long story, sorry. Some of your hallucinations sound pretty similar to mine, but others don't. Since you only took one pill there wouldn't be enough MDMA in it to make you hallucinate, 2c-i/2c-b would be my guess too. It sounds like a good buy for $4 each, I'd take two halves an hour apart if you get one again and then it wouldn't be so overpoweringly intense.
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Old 2008-12-21, 19:29
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Default Re: Really good E? Possible hallucinogenic contents?

I had my first properly hallucinogenic experience on MDMA last Friday night.

Wow, cool story. I can't believe I read all of that. Might want to edit it with paragraphs.

That water must have been nasty. Should just have drank 1/4 and then another 1/4 around the 2am mark. But the question must be asked: Is your friend getting a quarter water bottle full of undissolved molly for christmas?
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Old 2008-12-21, 22:22
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Wow, cool story. I can't believe I read all of that. Might want to edit it with paragraphs.

That water must have been nasty. Should just have drank 1/4 and then another 1/4 around the 2am mark. But the question must be asked: Is your friend getting a quarter water bottle full of undissolved molly for christmas?

Heh, can't believe anybody read all of it myself. I was planning on giving him a half-bottle, but currently he's getting nothing for Christmas 'cos the bottle's empty (I'm glad I gave that last quarter away) and I don't have any more MD. Not much chance of getting any in the next week either, so he'll have to wait 'til just before New Year. I'm a bad friend :(
 
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