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Old 2008-12-20, 13:55
leroche leroche is offline
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Hey all,

I'm sure this is an age old question, but I searched and couldn't find anything. Anywho, how does pure opium compare to say a high dose of codeine, morphine, etc... Is it worth going to the effort to grow and cultivate your own opium?

Many thankyous,
leroche
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Old 2008-12-20, 15:21
psychedelicious psychedelicious is offline
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I guess it depends on the dosage of opium. Morphine and codeine themselves are in opium. I think there's like 10 times as much morphine as codeine though.
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Old 2008-12-21, 07:53
Ljudska Ljudska is offline
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Is it worth going to the effort to grow and cultivate your own opium?

It's always worth it to grow your own :)

"The quality of opium is, however, determined almost exclusively by the proportion of morphine it contains. Good Turkey opium yields from about 12 to 22 per cent. of anhydrous morphine (calculated upon the dry drug), but is subject, of course, to considerable variation. Persian opium is less rich in morphine, and contains, when of good quality, from 8 to 12 per cent; in exceptional cases 16 and even more per cent, has been recorded. Indian opium varies from 3 to 15 per cent., the bulk ranging from 7.5 to 10 per cent. Efforts have been and are being made to raise the morphine content of this variety. Chinese opium has been shown to contain from 4.3 to 11.2 per cent. The alkaloid certainly exists in combination with acids (probably partly with meconic, partly with sulphuric acid), and is easily and completely extracted by water.

Narcotine varies usually from about 2 to 8 per cent., although the latter figure is occasionally exceeded. It appears to occur in larger proportion in Indian and Persian opium than it does in Turkey, and to exist chiefly in the free state, it being a weak base. Codeine exists in proportions ranging from 0.3 to 4.0 per cent, in combination with acids. Thebaine varies from 0.2 to 0.5 per cent., narceine from 0.1 to 0.4 per cent. The remaining alkaloids constitute together about I per cent, of the drug.

from http://chestofbooks.com/health/materia-medica-drugs/Textbook-Materia-Medica/Opium-Continued.html
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Old 2008-12-21, 11:13
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opium is just a step a short step from tar, smoke tar its better
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Old 2008-12-21, 18:39
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Default Re: opium compared to other opiates

Quote:
Originally Posted by trippy
opium is just a step a short step from tar, smoke tar its better


uh..

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