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Old 2008-12-20, 06:06
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Default Quick question about boats

Let's say that a standard marine engine made 125hp@7,500rpm. Flat-2 engine.

Let's say we have an engine that also produced 125hp, but at 2,000rpm instead of 7,500rpm. This engine has 5.7l of v8 goodness.

If everything was set up right, would the 5.7 produce the same amount of thrust and propulsion as the 125hp@7,500 rpm engine?

If so, would that mean the 5.7 would get better fuel economy?
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Old 2008-12-20, 06:46
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Default Re: Quick question about boats

Technically, yeah. but car/bike engines in marine applications tend to fail.
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Old 2008-12-20, 07:17
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You've really got a couple questions there, but anyway..

First of all, to compare them properly, you need to know more about the Flat 2. Displacement would be the most useful. Without the specifics enough to go into theory of any great accuracy (but this is still going to be most likely correct, otherwise it'd be pointless typing it. that was just a disclaimer) we'll assume the Flat 2 is 1.5L, so it displaces the same amount of air/fuel mix per minute.

Yes, they will both output the same amount of propulsion. That's a no brainer (125hp is 125hp), however the V8 is much more reliable (inherantly) and has the capacity to put out much more than the flat-2 is capable of.

Efficiency? Well, that depends on a number of things.

It could (again, that word just used as a disclaimer) also be a heck of a lot cheaper, in purchasing the engine itself, buying performance goodies, and buying spares because they're so commonly used that theres shit-tonnes of it all, and it's all been done before a million times.

There are reasons why inboard speed boats have used 350ci (usually built up heaps)Chevrolet V8s since day one and will still continue to do so...
..if outboards hadn't improved so dramatically as to make inboards a very niche market.


P.S. 125hp is a low output for an engine of such volume, by any standards.
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Old 2008-12-20, 08:34
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Default Re: Quick question about boats

P.S. 125hp is a low output for an engine of such volume, by any standards.

P.S. its only doing 2000rpm
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Old 2008-12-20, 08:42
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Default Re: Quick question about boats

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowboy of the Apocalypse
You've really got a couple questions there, but anyway..

First of all, to compare them properly, you need to know more about the Flat 2. Displacement would be the most useful. Without the specifics enough to go into theory of any great accuracy (but this is still going to be most likely correct, otherwise it'd be pointless typing it. that was just a disclaimer) we'll assume the Flat 2 is 1.5L, so it displaces the same amount of air/fuel mix per minute.

Yes, they will both output the same amount of propulsion. That's a no brainer (125hp is 125hp), however the V8 is much more reliable (inherantly) and has the capacity to put out much more than the flat-2 is capable of.

Efficiency? Well, that depends on a number of things.

It could (again, that word just used as a disclaimer) also be a heck of a lot cheaper, in purchasing the engine itself, buying performance goodies, and buying spares because they're so commonly used that theres shit-tonnes of it all, and it's all been done before a million times.

There are reasons why inboard speed boats have used 350ci (usually built up heaps)Chevrolet V8s since day one and will still continue to do so...
..if outboards hadn't improved so dramatically as to make inboards a very niche market.


P.S. 125hp is a low output for an engine of such volume, by any standards.


This.

Important parts bolded.
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Old 2008-12-20, 12:41
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P.S. its only doing 2000rpm

Fair call govner. I overlooked that momentarily (while translating that post script thought into text).
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Old 2008-12-20, 18:14
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Default Re: Quick question about boats

Fair call govner. I overlooked that momentarily (while translating that post script thought into text).

Thanks for the great post.

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