I'm just coming out of one of those intense, harsh bad trips and strangely enough it was that legal shit BZP that brought it on. God it feels good coming out of a bad trip. Its like needing to take a shit for a week then finally taking that shit. I kept wondering if it was even possible to not be in a bad trip because I couldn't remember what it was like not to be in a bad trip but I one thing I can say now is I feel pretty fuckin good. I can remember the whole bad trip and I can recall the lessons I learned (or more accurately revised because I hit these same realizations every time I'm in one of these intense harsh trips.

Anyhow I just thought I'd share the lessons I learned from this trip. We're all in this thing together. For some reason we develop negative views of each other but we're all good people doing good things. Theres no reason to hold any negative views about anyone. I couldn't help pondering the idea of light being refracted through a prism and forming a range of distinct colors and thinking of it as an analogy for humans and our subtle differences. We're like light being refracted we all have different colors but the ultimate truth is we all originate from the same source of light and we will all return to this source.

God I'm happy right now. I've had a good few bad trips in my life and every single time I come out of it I realize it was well worth the 4-5 hours of agony to arrive at the state of consciousness I'm in right now.

The moral of the story here is rough times are always followed by good times.

your just fried for a while
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youll eventually forget the lesson.. just give it a month or two

Yeah I know I was thinking about that I always forget these lessons after a few months of not doing psychedelics. Maybe I should write them down or something. Everything seems real cartoon like at the moment. I was looking at people earlier and I couldn't help noticing how much they resembled Mickey Mouse. Its a good thing it wasn't one of those funny trips were everythings hilarious cuz I woulda died laughing at how absurd people look when they're cartoon characters.

I realize now that they don't put "Do not double drop" on the packages cuz it sounds cool. I was even thinking about popping a third one because I was in one of those arrogant I can handle anything mindsets.

Nothing good ever comes from taking BZP, intentional or not...

I disagree Tordek. That psychedelic kick in the head was just what I needed to get me thinking straight again.

I always forget these lessons after a few months of not doing psychedelics. Maybe I should write them down or something.

Capturing it on paper just isn't the same. :(

Yeah I gota agree, a bad trip every now and again can set your life and mind straighter than good trips sometimes.

What I meant really is that iv never seen or experienced any good recreational effects from BZP or similar substances. Iv taken it once intentionally and once unintentionally and both times have been one of the worst drug experiences iv had mostly down to the side affects and complete lack of anything positive. A group of us had a dodgy batch of BZP pills at a festival all of us that took them had a really bad time off them. I was the first to take them and after spening a night wide awake, freezing cold, unable to sleep with insane tremors and generally feeling like pure and utter shit I told everyone not to take them... Being the kind of people who don’t even realise pills should contain MDMA they still took them and all regretted it. Someone also had some left over and went on to sell them at college as well as take some himself despite his own past experience and my warnings AGAIN... A lot more people had bad experiences that night too and I feel somewhat accountable having been the one to procure them and being stupid enough not to have tested them before hand.

Iv also seen a fair few people take it intentionally in the form of legal highs or again as bad pills and I have still never seen somebody enjoy the stuff. I cant understand how they got away with marketing that stuff as legal E and people actually brought it...

First time I had BZP it was together with mCPP in a shitty ecstasy mimic, I actually rather enjoyed myself but a few minutes of potent nausea at the peak coupled with a ridiculously bad comedown make it jsut not worthwhile.

That "lesson" is ridiculous. I guess I should just stop looking down on that guy that murdered my GFs friend, since were all in this together. You're looking too hard.

^ I hate BZP too. I've knowingly taken it once and I got a headache, paranoia, confusion and speediness. It was damn hard to get to sleep and it ruined my night. It's turning up all over the place in pills that are being passed off as legit E. Fuck it.

BZP was legal here for a while, and everyone glorified it.

I dont know why, it is quite nice i mean its very stimulating mentally/intellectually but hardly psychedelic and has a really bad hangover not to mention all that shivering and shit when your peaking.

Its like a mild DXM with slim to nothing good about it.

The shit that fucked me off is BZP and BZP/TMAFF was marketed as so many different alternative drugs "legal E" "legal LSD" "Legal Weed" i kid you not, its fucking insane false and disingenuous marketing but people dont even read the fucking packet!

BZP is a psychedelic at very high doses. I've had a similar trip to yours but I still had some enjoyable times on BZP.

MrSparkle, what country do you live in? I thought BZP was banned pretty much everywhere now.

Really dude, why are you even here. Do you think anyones going to listen to you?

I'm in Ireland illuminatikiller. It'll be banned here soon. I don't know whether it was the placebo effect that made me have a psychedelic trip or whether I just took too much. I don't know how to read the pack it says "contains 400mg of BZP/TFMPP blend. Whats the ratio?

I assumed it was a psychedelic cuz people just said "its mad shit" about it. It hit me just like a medium strength mushroom trip. A bad one though. I don't think the drug itself caused the trip though just the set and setting. I probably woulda had a good trip under different circumstances.

I only found out they market it as an E alternative the day after. It was nothing like MDMA in my case. If I didn't know what I'd taken I woulda said shrooms.