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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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 2008-12-18, 05:42
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MR.Kitty55 
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Consuming Dried Peruvian Torch
I have 60 grams...I intend to just break it up into slightly smaller bite sized pieces so I can just swallow each bit whole without having to taste it or make some complicated brew or tea...
I'm assuming this is an obvious question and it should work no problem, however, I would like to be certain that there is no need to chew it up or make a brew...I mean, once its down the hatch its in there, it doesn't really matter how it gets there as long as it does, correct?
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#2
 2008-12-18, 06:12
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Re: Consuming Dried Peruvian Torch
you can do that if you want to, but I wouldn't recommend it. a brew is not that hard, and it can be boiled down till you will need to consume much less nasty tasting water then nasty tasting cacti.
with eating the cacti, vomiting is pretty much guaranteed. the tea should help reducing nausea.
as for your question, that will work, but will most likely result in more gradual peaking and come-down (not always a bad thing).
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#3
 2008-12-18, 06:35
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Re: Consuming Dried Peruvian Torch
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Originally Posted by penguinjam
you can do that if you want to, but I wouldn't recommend it. a brew is not that hard, and it can be boiled down till you will need to consume much less nasty tasting water then nasty tasting cacti.
with eating the cacti, vomiting is pretty much guaranteed. the tea should help reducing nausea.
as for your question, that will work, but will most likely result in more gradual peaking and come-down (not always a bad thing).
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well I was thinking about breaking it up into thumbnail sized pieces, i could just swallow it whole...take 40-60 grams over 1 and half...with plenty of soda...no taste....
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#4
 2008-12-18, 06:44
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Re: Consuming Dried Peruvian Torch
It's not about the taste. All that plant matter will not agree with your stomach. It's not the same as spinach or something. You aren't meant to digest shit like that. Make some tea and boil it down. It'll taste nasty, but there's reasons to do it besides the taste.
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#5
 2008-12-18, 21:03
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MR.Kitty55 
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Re: Consuming Dried Peruvian Torch
If I do vomit will I loose any of the effects or will I just be free of shit cactus in my stomach???
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#6
 2008-12-18, 23:20
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Re: Consuming Dried Peruvian Torch
You will vomit, but its part of the experience. Just try to keep it down as long as possible. Dont eat lumps either, it wont be absorbed by the time you vomit. Powder is as best as possible using a food processor/blender, sieve and powder any large lumps left behind.
It is quite possibly the worst tasting thing I have ever consumed and cosidering the amount you need to comsume you WILL need to mix it to anything because I dont think anyone is capable of consuming an oz+ of bone dry cactus powder straight. I tried mixing it with natural youghert and "drinking" it through a 15mm tube down my osaphagus but it didnt work so well so I used a spoon straight to the back of the mouth and swallowing it with as little contact with the tongue. Turned out like very bitter gritty yhougert and really really really not nice. Either make a tea and grin and bear it or do an extraction if your capable.
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#7
 2008-12-18, 23:35
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MR.Kitty55 
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Re: Consuming Dried Peruvian Torch
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Originally Posted by tordek battlehammer
You will vomit, but its part of the experience. Just try to keep it down as long as possible. Dont eat lumps either, it wont be absorbed by the time you vomit. Powder is as best as possible using a food processor/blender, sieve and powder any large lumps left behind.
It is quite possibly the worst tasting thing I have ever consumed and cosidering the amount you need to comsume you WILL need to mix it to anything because I dont think anyone is capable of consuming an oz+ of bone dry cactus powder straight. I tried mixing it with natural youghert and "drinking" it through a 15mm tube down my osaphagus but it didnt work so well so I used a spoon straight to the back of the mouth and swallowing it with as little contact with the tongue. Turned out like very bitter gritty yhougert and really really really not nice. Either make a tea and grin and bear it or do an extraction if your capable.
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Two things
1.) So vomiting won't detract from the effects? I mean, my trip will still go strong...
2.) If i break it up into enough tiny pieces which I can swallow whole then why would taste even be an issue?
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#8
 2008-12-19, 10:47
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Re: Consuming Dried Peruvian Torch
Two things
1.) So vomiting won't detract from the effects? I mean, my trip will still go strong...
2.) If i break it up into enough tiny pieces which I can swallow whole then why would taste even be an issue?
1) As long as you hold it down as long as possible to ensure as much as the active is absorbed before you vomit.
2) This stuff just has to touch the side of your throat to make you gag. Its gritty, hard, extremely dry and very very very bitter. As I said eating lumps wont work because it will not be broken down in your stomach to provide the high enough surface area for the actives to be released absorbed from the cactus. Also if your eating it in tiny peices individually you will never get it all down before you gag just thinking about trying to swallow another bit or throw up what you have already swallowed leaving you with a nice pile of vomit and unabsorbed cactus. Seriously either powder it as much as possible or make a tea from it or your not going to get jack from eating it and you will just make yourself sick.
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#9
 2008-12-19, 11:02
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Re: Consuming Dried Peruvian Torch
Extractions.
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