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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-12-17, 22:27
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ThizzleWiggle 
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Smoking Oxycontin
Has anybody else smoked oxys in pill form on tin foil? Everybody where im from used to snort it, but it got around that smoking it is better. Nowadays if someone has some oxy, theyre smoking it because of the immediate rush.
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#2
 2008-12-17, 22:30
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
You go smoke your OC's New Arrival...
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#3
 2008-12-17, 22:34
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
*sighs*
Kids these days...
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#4
 2008-12-17, 22:35
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
Do they at least freebase it first? Seems like it would be a waste if not.
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#5
 2008-12-17, 22:42
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
yah people do it but honestly man just swallow/snort it pills are not meant to be smoked by any stretch of the imaginatio
although I wonder
if you could come up with a smokable pill
like one designed specifically for interchangeable uses of swallowing and smoking
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#6
 2008-12-17, 22:49
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
Put oxy in your nose, not your lungs. Fucking new arrivals...
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#7
 2008-12-17, 22:51
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
Of course its not meant to be smoked, but it gets you more fucked up. People use a tube(usually from a pen) and freebase it. After doing it a couple times your tube will be crusted with residue on the inside. When people are in a pinch(and fiending out) they scrape that flakey residue onto the foil and smoke that too. Its basically like b tar but doesnt taste like throwup and gets you MUCH higher.
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#8
 2008-12-17, 22:53
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
No thanks, I'll stick to eating/snorting.
That is straight up retarded.
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#9
 2008-12-17, 22:54
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
i smoke ocs
it's dank as fuck what are all you guys talking about
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#10
 2008-12-17, 22:56
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
try it once...or you could just assume that it sucks...but there is a reason why people dont go back to snorting it afterwards...
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#11
 2008-12-17, 22:57
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ThizzleWiggle 
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
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Originally Posted by steel211
i smoke ocs
it's dank as fuck what are all you guys talking about
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wow finally someone with a brain
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#12
 2008-12-17, 22:57
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
I can't decide whether this is insanely stupid, or just a troll
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#13
 2008-12-17, 22:59
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
Smoking pills? Mine as well just smoke the money you spent on the pills; same effect.
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#14
 2008-12-17, 23:04
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
If I had a large supply of them, sure, I might give it a shot for shits and giggles.
But I would never waste good money trying something I've seen stupid highschool kids do many times with many pills without success, unless of course you consider the amazing high of "placebo" a success.
Seriously man...
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#15
 2008-12-17, 23:09
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
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Originally Posted by ThizzleWiggle
try it once...or you could just assume that it sucks...but there is a reason why people dont go back to snorting it afterwards...
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How are the peak and duration compared to snorting?
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#16
 2008-12-17, 23:18
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ThizzleWiggle 
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
the peak is higher but the duration is a little shorter only because it kicks in faster. if you are afraid of wasting a pill, just peel the time release and cut 20% off. As you put the lighter under the foil, the piece of pill will slide down the foil(because youre holding it at a slight incline) and you follow the trail whilst inhaling the smoke. DO IT PEOPLE. this isnt some experimental kid shit. People have been doing this, not everybody knows about it.
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#17
 2008-12-17, 23:18
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
If someone were to freebase the oxy (and no, freebase doesn't mean vaporize on foil through a pen tube, it means convert from salt to fucking freebase), and extract it out of the OC pills, AND THEN smoke it, that would be a great idea.
However, by smoking the hydrochloride salt (and all the fucking binders) you are actually wasting precious oxy, and also putting alot of bad shit in your lungs.
Now what would be interesting, is to see if the increased bioavailability of smoking oxycodone compensates for some of the oxycodone HCl destroyed from the heat...interesting...
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#18
 2008-12-17, 23:28
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
Bravo NoWarning, I was wondering when someone was going to point out the difference between freebasing and the tin foil "chasing the dragon" method.
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#19
 2008-12-17, 23:37
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
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Originally Posted by ThizzleWiggle
try it once...or you could just assume that it sucks...but there is a reason why people dont go back to snorting it afterwards...
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Yeah, I'm going to take the most expensive pharmaceutical narcotic available and chemically destroy it with lighter for a placebo effect. I'll get right on that...
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#20
 2008-12-17, 23:39
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
You snort benzos too?
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#21
 2008-12-17, 23:43
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
You snort benzos too?
fuck you I just railed a xanax
do a search on the forums for "rizzo the mythbuster"
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#22
 2008-12-17, 23:44
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
Yeah, I'm going to take the most expensive pharmaceutical narcotic available and chemically destroy it with lighter for a placebo effect. I'll get right on that...
....Yeah i was addicted to placebo for a year. and that placebo sure is a killer-it killed 3 people i knew because they got too high. its crazy how placebo can cause physical and mental withdrawals as well....im not typing on a computer its just the placebo
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#23
 2008-12-17, 23:46
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
....Yeah i was addicted to placebo for a year. and that placebo sure is a killer-it killed 3 people i knew because they got too high. its crazy how placebo can cause physical and mental withdrawals as well....im not typing on a computer its just the placebo
I just cooked up a fat shot of placebo but I don't know where to inject it, into my imagination or my intuition?
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#24
 2008-12-17, 23:59
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
and that placebo sure is a killer-it killed 3 people i knew because they got too high.
Good, natural selection at it's best. Anyone stupid enough to smoke oxycodone [b]Hcl[b/] is going to get themselves killed somewhere down the line, at least they didn't take anyone else with them.
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#25
 2008-12-18, 00:02
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
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Originally Posted by legituser
Smoking pills? Mine as well just smoke the money you spent on the pills; same effect.
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Incorrect usage of a semi-colon: idiot.
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#26
 2008-12-18, 00:05
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
Yeah, I'm going to take the most expensive pharmaceutical narcotic available and chemically destroy it with lighter for a placebo effect. I'll get right on that...
No, it's not placebo, but it's not efficient either. I'm sure you do get a nice rush from quicker-than-IV absorption (literally), but you are undoubtedly wasting some oxycodone by burning the salt.
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#27
 2008-12-18, 00:13
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
If only these kids knew about iv use. They would cry at their wasteful attempts.
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#28
 2008-12-18, 00:29
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
Anyone who smokes OC's should be euthanized. Fuck the trolls in the ass with a troll-dildo!
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#29
 2008-12-18, 09:59
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
if you smoke it off foil it will catch on fire. Seen it happen with a 5mg oxyIR..
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#30
 2008-12-18, 10:33
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
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Originally Posted by steel211
i smoke ocs
it's dank as fuck what are all you guys talking about
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this is only done in washington northern oregon and los angeles for real. It is an amazing high but its incredibly wasteful. Its also insanely fucking addictive. I've got a friend who used to smoke heroin occasionally and never had a problem but after he smoked his first bean he was a junky in under a month. Its an amazing but short and wasteful high
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#31
 2008-12-18, 10:53
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
Incorrect usage of a semi-colon: idiot.
Incorrect use of colon, idiot. :)
But anyway there used to be a thread about smoking OCs on here every week. I was actually wondering recently if people had finally stopped wasting oxy like that.
It got so common that SN actually posted a writeup on how to truly freebase your OC.
Heres a little something from my personal drug archives:
Freebase morphine and oxycodone will not decompose at their melting points. There is something like awww, fuck, another 100 degrees C until decomp. Basing is easy.
Add NaOH to water, add pill mass, stir a bunch, keeping it cool. Then add a good nonpolar solvent like ether, and shake it really well. You could add table salt to help push some of the base out of the lye solution. Seperate the polar and nonpolar layers, and then evaporate the nonpolar layer until you have a scent free oil like substance. Then, take that, and put it in an oil burner, aka chicken bone aka glass dick, whatever, and smoke it as you would any other freebase.
As for amounts, you want to use as little as possible for easy of evap and working with it.
For the lye solution, just keep adding it until its saturated, then add about .25 the total volume of water to it, to ensure you don't get any pure NaOH in there.
For the ratios of nonpolar to use, just check and MSDS for the freebase forms miscibility in ether, or whatever nonpolar solvent you choose to use.
I suggest against naphtha since it has higher boiling point distillates in there, and you end up with a more viscous yield, since some of those oils are left behind because of the high BP, contaminating your product.
It is more for novel use than anything. If you are fine with using IV I suggest you stick with that. If you have the extra dope, and extra chems, and extra time to fuck around and try something new, go for it, but don't have your expectations too high.
Smoking the salt form ALSO works, but not NEAR as well. A huge waste IMHO.
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#32
 2008-12-18, 23:12
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
Incorrect usage of a semi-colon: idiot.
Shut the fuck up acolyte.
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#33
 2008-12-18, 23:49
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
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Originally Posted by ThizzleWiggle
try it once...or you could just assume that it sucks...but there is a reason why people dont go back to snorting it afterwards...
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good god you and your friends are retarded
gtfo
dumbass
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#34
 2008-12-18, 23:55
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
I've only smoked roxi's. I usually snort them, but some dude bought two off of me at the mall and then smoked them with me. I had already snorted two before that.
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#35
 2008-12-19, 01:00
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
yeah man... just crush the pills up and add 2 parts baking soda for one part oxy. People around here make that soccer mom crack all the time in my neighborhood.
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#36
 2008-12-19, 01:49
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
Haven't really read the whole thread, but ugh.. don't smoke any pill. That's horrible.
I haven't tried or even researched the subject before, but I'm pretty sure Oxycodone is soluble in cold water.
Theoretically, couldn't one crush oxy pills up, dump into cold water until soluble, make water hot add salt to precipitate, filter 3x, add NP, murry boil to base, seperate NP, clean solution again and evap/ or pull OC solution out of dry NP with cold water again, decant, evap ? = smokable pure(or around there) oxy?
Again, no research put into it, just throwing an idea out...
I'm sure sn knows.
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#37
 2008-12-19, 02:27
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
I live up in the northwest (washington) and everyone around here smokes beans. it's really only in the northwest and has become a huge phase the last couple years. Because a lot of you havn't tried it you wouldn't know what it's like. I thought the same shit when i saw people doing it my first few times but quickly found out how addicting it is. It's more of the mental thought of wanting to smoke it which makes even worse. Other oxy smokers know exactly what im talking about and would agree you have to try it before making conclusions.
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#38
 2008-12-19, 02:30
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
I've tried it when one of my friends offered. It did work, but it was really short lived and tasted really bad, and thinking about that shit in my lungs and larynx grossed me out.
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#39
 2008-12-19, 02:35
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
That sounds like a recipe for fucking lung cancer and brain damage there smoking all of that bullshit filler in a pill. Just snort or parachute the fuckers, I'm sick of dumbasses putting pills on their weed and saying they got teh fuxx0red.
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#40
 2008-12-19, 02:36
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
as some one so generously posted....
you can [but its stupid] smoke it as is, but if your real hell bent to smoke your opiates there is a way to turn your salt to base..
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#41
 2008-12-19, 03:26
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
you can [but its stupid] smoke it as is, but if your real hell bent to smoke your opiates there is a way to turn your salt to base..
hey man, we're still attempting to get lazy junkies to perform CWEs.
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#42
 2008-12-19, 03:29
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
hey man, we're still attempting to get lazy junkies to perform CWEs.
What's that supposed to mean? Is that a reference to my post?
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#43
 2008-12-19, 03:32
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
What's that supposed to mean? Is that a reference to my post?
No, it's a reference to a lot of people here considering a CWE to be "too much work", let alone engaging in a salt-to-base conversion.
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#44
 2008-12-19, 03:40
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
^^^OK pro.
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#45
 2008-12-19, 03:43
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
No, it's a reference to a lot of people here considering a CWE to be "too much work", let alone engaging in a salt-to-base conversion.
he's spot on....
its sad, but true..
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#46
 2008-12-19, 03:50
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
he's spot on....
its sad, but true..
OK pro.......! You should talk out of anyone, vilbe. ...
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#47
 2008-12-19, 04:10
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
OK pro.......! You should talk out of anyone, vilbe. ...
shush
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#48
 2008-12-19, 05:57
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
I'll freebase OC when I get the chance this break. I'll post back with results.
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#49
 2008-12-22, 10:53
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
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Originally Posted by SK84r20_dude
I live up in the northwest (washington) and everyone around here smokes beans. it's really only in the northwest and has become a huge phase the last couple years. Because a lot of you havn't tried it you wouldn't know what it's like. I thought the same shit when i saw people doing it my first few times but quickly found out how addicting it is. It's more of the mental thought of wanting to smoke it which makes even worse. Other oxy smokers know exactly what im talking about and would agree you have to try it before making conclusions.
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mmmmmmmmmm chasing that little quarter pill down a sheet of foil inhaling that unmistakable taste while blissful warmth just instantly wraps itself around you. the fact that people still argue whether or not this works enrages me, if anything it works too fucking well, every patient whos checked into rehab in the last 2 years in Washington are in for smoking beans
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#50
 2008-12-23, 10:07
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
this is only done in washington northern oregon and los angeles for real. It is an amazing high but its incredibly wasteful. Its also insanely fucking addictive. I've got a friend who used to smoke heroin occasionally and never had a problem but after he smoked his first bean he was a junky in under a month. Its an amazing but short and wasteful high
sure it's insanely addictive but what opiate isn't?
the high isn't THAT short (an hour and a half or so) and for me the only way I can get a true floor sinking rush is by smoking an 80 on some foil, hold the hits in long as you can.
it isn't wasteful for me, i've done a lot of OC, I get em at $15 per and sell em at $40 so I have more than enough to experiment with and I tell you I can snort 80mgs and get a slightly less euphoric rush - but a rush just the same - but it only lasts 25-30 minutes.
when I eat them orally it lasts a couple hours but there usually is no rush and if there is it's very very shortlived.
smoking 20mgs of OC gives me the same effect as railing 80mgs, and lasts longer. (probably best to do this after eating some now that I think about it, I'll try that right now)
i'm fully against smoking pills and hate myself for doing it because those pills weigh .3 .4 and theres only 80mgs (not even a .1) of actual OC in them but... it's just the best ROA short of using a needle IMO
i've never had a disagreement with this from anyone who has smoked with me, veteran junkies and on.
soo don't knock it till you try it, but don't make a habit out of it.. it is possible to control your usage.. hard as fuck but possible
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#51
 2008-12-23, 11:05
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
for you it takes an 80 but when you first start it hits hard off very little but builds your tolerance like shooting does and you have to smoke an 80 like within a matter of weeks. that's what makes it so fucking addictive. and you stay high an hour and a half from smoking them damn son I'm jealous. I get high off like 40 but I need to redose like every 45 minutes at most if I want to be nodding
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#52
 2008-12-24, 08:32
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
ok,for all the nay-sayers, smoking Oxy does,in fact, work. it works well. i like to eat them. i like to snort them. i like to smoke them. i basically just like them.it isnt a placebo. but all in all,i would say snorting>any other method(i have never banged anything,so i cant talk bout that)
and for the guy who said something about snorting benzos,they may not dissolve in water,but they do seem to hit you way harder when you crush em up and snort them. and chewing them up isnt an option,they stick to your teeth. snorting kpins is actually pretty awesome,the minty flav is excellent.
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#53
 2008-12-24, 10:38
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
and for the guy who said something about snorting benzos,they may not dissolve in water,but they do seem to hit you way harder when you crush em up and snort them. and chewing them up isnt an option,they stick to your teeth. snorting kpins is actually pretty awesome,the minty flav is excellent.
first off out of curiosity wheresabouts the country do you live? and second off don't put in something retarded like snorting benzos right after speaking the truth about OC. it just discredits your opinion and make everything you say sound wrong rather then just the second part
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#54
 2008-12-24, 11:38
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
first off out of curiosity wheresabouts the country do you live? and second off don't put in something retarded like snorting benzos right after speaking the truth about OC. it just discredits your opinion and make everything you say sound wrong rather then just the second part
Benzo work snorting. A few years ago rizzo did a big study on it and had research to back in up. Just do it and get back. The fact on smoking OC is that its fucking nasty and wasteful, and you are smoking tons of binders that can be harmful if not deadly when smoked.
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#55
 2008-12-24, 13:53
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
although I wonder
if you could come up with a smokable pill
like one designed specifically for interchangeable uses of swallowing and smoking
No pharm company would have any reason to do this. If you made a pill from freebase oxy then you are still smoking the binders you would need to use.
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#56
 2008-12-24, 19:23
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
I'm pretty sure you can smoke anything. I will smoke my keyboard now.
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#57
 2008-12-24, 20:04
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
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Originally Posted by Gorcrow
I'm pretty sure you can smoke anything. I will smoke my keyboard now.
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nice. im gonna go smoke my foreskin.
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#58
 2008-12-24, 20:40
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
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Originally Posted by Gorcrow
I'm pretty sure you can smoke anything. I will smoke my keyboard now.
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I have so much peices of weed and little rocks of coke in my keyboard you would be high as hell if you smoked it...lol
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#59
 2008-12-24, 21:21
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
I got a couple whys. Why would you smoke oxy's when snorting them works so well, and for a long moderate buzz, eating them is not that bad. Or you could parachute it which is the best way in my opinion. And why is this thread still going on, smoking oxycontin, or any pill is not a good idea, it's actually quite stupid unless you take the time too extract the contents and leave that wax and fillers behind. But once again, it's so much easier doing it the conventional ways.
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#60
 2008-12-25, 01:11
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
I used to smoke OC's on occasion and its a good buzz. But truthfully, I'd rather just snort the fuck out of it.
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#61
 2008-12-25, 01:31
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Re: Smoking Oxycontin
Ok, this has gone on long enough.
Smoking Oxy - smoking any pill - is a stupid idea.
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