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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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2008-12-15, 20:43
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Good first drug-weed
Hey guys, newfag drug user here.
For my first purchase, should I get an 1/8 of weed, smoke 1/16th first time to break down defences, then 1/16th next time to get high.
What is the best way to smoke? I have heard about "waterfall bongs", should I make up one of these?
On Erowid it says it lasts 4 hours, but you peak after one then gradually decrease.
So if I took 1/16th at like 9:00, I should pretty much be fine by 12:30?
And for covering smell, deodorant/chewing gum good enough, plus being outside for like 3 hours, then eating a pot noodle. Would that cover it?
Cheers,
Jazzy! 
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# 2

2008-12-15, 20:48
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Re: Good first drug-weed
I've never heard anyone call a half-eighth a 1/16 before... Anyways, just smoke the whole 1/8.
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# 3

2008-12-15, 20:50
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Re: Good first drug-weed
I like your idea of smoking it in pieces to break tolerance.
Just smoke one bowl
wait a few hours
Smoke the rest and enjoy  , it will probably last that long if it is your first time
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# 4

2008-12-15, 20:50
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Re: Good first drug-weed
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Originally Posted by LegalizeSpiritualDiscovry
I've never heard anyone call a half-eighth a 1/16 before... Anyways, just smoke the whole 1/8.
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But I won't get high and it would be waste right?
I thought no one got high their first time?
Okay man, just one bowl ? Nice.
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# 5

2008-12-15, 20:53
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Re: Good first drug-weed
1/8th of weed for your first time?
I smoke every day and an 8th lasts me 2 weeks (dank shit though)
The first time I smoked I got rediculously baked off one bowl- probably somewhere around a half a gram.
Theres no reason for you to smoke that much your first time unless its total dirt weed.
Pack a bowl//roll a small joint and see how you feel from there.
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# 6

2008-12-15, 20:55
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Re: Good first drug-weed
I've been smoking for about 9 years now, and all I can say is that an 1/8th of good bud lasts me a week of smoking by myself, 2 days if smoking with friends. Smoke a bowl and you will be high, in all likely hood, really high.
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# 7

2008-12-15, 20:56
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Re: Good first drug-weed
Ah okay, so slow it down a bit 
What about smell? Have I got that nailed?

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# 8

2008-12-15, 21:02
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Re: Good first drug-weed
er, smoke a bowl. If the weed is good you'll get high off your ass. I never got that whole "you never get high the first time thing". I did and everyone I know did. I can't see how a person could smoke a 1/16 their first time though. Good luck and don't worry about "wasting it" It won't take you much to get high.
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# 9

2008-12-15, 21:05
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Re: Good first drug-weed
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Originally Posted by Jazzy_Ways
But I won't get high and it would be waste right?
I thought no one got high their first time?
Okay man, just one bowl ? Nice.
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Lies. You just gotta NOT have dirtass regs, and know how to inhale properly. I got high as fuck my first time.
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# 10

2008-12-15, 21:10
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Re: Good first drug-weed
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Originally Posted by LegalizeSpiritualDiscovry
I've never heard anyone call a half-eighth a 1/16 before... Anyways, just smoke the whole 1/8.
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I've never heard anyone call a 1/16 a half-eighth before...
op, you need less than .5g. smoke .5g and you will be baked.
but weed is one of those things where ya smoke, see where ya are, and smoke further as necessary. nobody really 'pre-doses' how much they're gonna smoke.
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#11
 2008-12-15, 21:11
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Jazzy_Ways 
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Re: Good first drug-weed
Lies. You just gotta NOT have dirtass regs, and know how to inhale properly. I got high as fuck my first time.
Oh...I was told it was due to defences or something...:D
I believed the guy as he was a big science geek . 
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#12
 2008-12-15, 21:30
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Re: Good first drug-weed
First time smoking a waterfall will fuck you up! Just smoke a normal bong or joints and take it easy with how much you smoke. Dont understimate your noobie lack of tollerance and make sure you inhale properly!
Chewing gum and a little squirt of deodourant is more than enough to cover the smell of weed on you. if your outside for a few hours it will definetly be gone and you will be fine. New smokers always tend to be paranoid about the smell but its never as bad as you think.
The amount of people, mostly non-smokers who have had major paranoia attacks that they are going to stink of weed when they go home after I smoked a bowl/joint in their company is unbelievable. One guy had a major paranoia attack because I sat on the edge of the passenger seat smoked a bowl in his car at the begining of a 3 day camping trip (with all the doors and windows open) and he went on to make me buy a can of air freshners and like 6 of those things you hang from the mirror in case his parent smelled it when he got home. He swore blind his car stank of weed for months after that.
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#13
 2008-12-15, 21:34
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Re: Good first drug-weed
OP: inhale, and saturate your bloodstream. so if everyone else is high off that one bowl and your not yet, smoke more...
an 8th should last you a while, just smoke up.
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#14
 2008-12-15, 21:40
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Tick Tock 
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Re: Good first drug-weed
I thought no one got high their first time?
I sure as hell got high my first time. Don't think you're going to get high the first hit, but it is possible to get high your first time. Notice I said possible. There's no guarantee, and you won't know until after you've already smoked.
Don't worry about smoking a specific amount, just smoke until you don't want to feel any higher. Or in the case that you don't get high the first time, until you feel like stopping and trying again later. Be sure to allow for the coming up and peak, you will feel a little bit higher a few minutes after you've already stopped smoking.
The best way to smoke is all up to your personal preference. However, I'd recommend you try a cheap method for your first time so you don't invest a lot of money in a piece and discover you don't actually like smoking weed. Joints are cheap, and gravity bongs are pretty cheap too. Blunts are cheap, but don't try to roll a blunt your first time, it's way too hard for a beginner, and paper is much more forgiving than blunt wraps are. Understand that gravity bongs are one of the most intense smoking methods, much more intense than a joint would be. Waterfall bongs are hard to operate by yourself, a bucket bong would be easier if you're smoking alone.
Yes, you will be sober enough to be around people at 12:30, but that doesn't mean you'll be completely sober. You're going to feel an afterglow, especially if it's your first time. You'd probably benefit from alloting more than three hours, it will give you more time to enjoy the coming down instead of worrying about acting normal.
Deodorant and gum will do the trick, but don't forget eye drops.
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#15
 2008-12-15, 22:12
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Re: Good first drug-weed
unless its shit your not going to need half an eighth to get high... try like half a gram...
The problem with most people not getting high when they first start is not inhaling....
just breath in while lighting the pipe, when you dont think you can take much more take your mouth off the pipe and breath in some fresh air, hold in the smoke for a bit and then exhale....
just repeat until your high....
i got high my first time, bong loaded up with headies.... my friend got high the first time...
on that note, take it slow... i loaded up a ghetto bottle bong with some dank, my friend inhaled so hard its surprising he wasn't drinking bong water, chamber went white then cleared.... he said "not feeling anything" so i loaded him up another and told him he didn't have to inhale that hard but he still did and got another huge rip.... still not feeling anything i gave him another.... then it hit him like a train... he started to freak out screaming "it hurts to think!" and various other things....
he got way too high his first time....
interesting given that the first time i took acid was also his first time with it, he had an amazing time.... i think it taught him respect for even relatively mild psychoactives....
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#16
 2008-12-15, 22:36
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Re: Good first drug-weed
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Originally Posted by vilbe
OP: inhale, and saturate your bloodstream. so if everyone else is high off that one bowl and your not yet, smoke more...
an 8th should last you a while, just smoke up.
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Good advice. Also, After your done taking the hit, take a breath of fresh air to force the smoke down into your lungs. Hold it for a god 5 seconds or so, then let it out.
And yeah, my first time getting high, Me and three friends split a nick and got destroyed. A nick is like .3g of weed here. so that was around .1g for each of us. And yeah, we got high.
Holy shit, if I had smoked a sixteenth of good buds to myself my first time I probably would have bugged the fuck out haha.
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#17
 2008-12-15, 22:47
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Re: Good first drug-weed
Good advice. Also, After your done taking the hit, take a breath of fresh air to force the smoke down into your lungs. Hold it for a god 5 seconds or so, then let it out.
And yeah, my first time getting high, Me and three friends split a nick and got destroyed. A nick is like .3g of weed here. so that was around .1g for each of us. And yeah, we got high.
Holy shit, if I had smoked a sixteenth of good buds to myself my first time I probably would have bugged the fuck out haha.
I thought a nick was just $5 worth of weed. Which can be a whole g with the people i know.
The whole getting high the first time varies from person to person. I only know one guy who got high his first time.
About the smell deodorant and gum will get rid of it but if you smoke outside the smell won't stick to you at all.
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#18
 2008-12-16, 03:48
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the half unlit 
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Re: Good first drug-weed
Dude, you dont have to think that far into abouth smokin weed. Its eventually no fucking big deal.
Just shoot herion and get it overwith...
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#19
 2008-12-16, 04:36
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Re: Good first drug-weed
Don't understatement. My first time, like, 10 bowls of KB?
My god, i was in a different world.
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#20
 2008-12-16, 04:51
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Re: Good first drug-weed
Don't understatement.
lolwut?
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#21
 2008-12-16, 05:08
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eShrooms 
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Re: Good first drug-weed
Smoke a bowl and see how you feel. Not everyone gets high their first time.
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#22
 2008-12-16, 06:20
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Re: Good first drug-weed
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Originally Posted by eShrooms
Smoke a bowl and see how you feel. Not everyone gets high their first time.
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you will if you smoke it right.
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#23
 2008-12-16, 19:38
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demented 
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Re: Good first drug-weed
BUMP.
I'm interested as to whether the OP got baked off his ass, or not high at all.
First-timers always have different reactions.
Hell, maybe the OP smoked a nug and then suddenly developed psychosis due to a relative being psychotic and the marijuana proceeded to exacerbate/bring out the mental illness within him!
You never know! :)
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#24
 2008-12-17, 00:24
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Re: Good first drug-weed
1/8th of weed for your first time?
I smoke every day and an 8th lasts me 2 weeks (dank shit though)
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wow, what a douche. either your a complete weed pussy and smoke 1/10 of a bowl at once or you have the best weed in the whole world
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#25
 2008-12-17, 01:19
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poofeek 
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Re: Good first drug-weed
wow, what a douche. either your a complete weed pussy and smoke 1/10 of a bowl at once or you have the best weed in the whole world
seriously, I can smoke an 1/8th in a day without a problem.
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#26
 2008-12-17, 03:50
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Re: Good first drug-weed
I thought a nick was just $5 worth of weed...
Yeah, that's the idea. But $5 of weed depends on your location.
Here, a gram of GOOD bud will run you at LEAST $20. Most dubs are like .8 or .9, so if you're getting a gram of excellent buds for $20, that's considered a nice connect around here.
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#27
 2008-12-17, 03:53
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Re: Good first drug-weed
seriously, I can smoke an 1/8th in a day without a problem.
I've got friends who'll smoke 1/8th in an hour without a problem ..
But personally I just take a few tokes/bong when I feel like it and that's plenty for me, got some pretty good weed and a low tolerance, which I'm keeping that way by not ramping up my usage hugely .. it's like if you smoke less, you'll need less , and if you smoke more, you'll need more .. an eighth lasts me 2 weeks usually ..
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#28
 2008-12-17, 04:03
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jamaica0535 
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Re: Good first drug-weed
i have smoked more than a quarter in 2 days with my sister.... granted it was shitty weed, and a good 2 grams of that went into a single blunt... 2g blunt for 2 people, even if its shitty will get you pretty fucking stoned...
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#29
 2008-12-17, 05:52
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Re: Good first drug-weed
I've got friends who'll smoke 1/8th in an hour without a problem ..
But personally I just take a few tokes/bong when I feel like it and that's plenty for me, got some pretty good weed and a low tolerance, which I'm keeping that way by not ramping up my usage hugely .. it's like if you smoke less, you'll need less , and if you smoke more, you'll need more .. an eighth lasts me 2 weeks usually ..
Agreed, getting a high tolerance is wasteful, its better to try to keep it low and take breaks on a regular basis.
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#30
 2008-12-17, 07:50
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Re: Good first drug-weed
the first time i got high was with my mate when we were on holiday in wellington. We scored about .3 gram for free off some dude next door and we made a coke pipe.
We were in the hotel bathroom and we sat in the bathroom for like an hour and hotboxed it.
We had no tolerance so we were really high and i remember waking up in the middle of the night all buzzed out and started wacthing tv; it was quite psychedelic even though we only had a little bit but with weed a little bit goes a long way.
Back when i first started smoking i could get insanely high off a pinky nail size nugget of average weed.
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#31
 2008-12-17, 16:04
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Re: Good first drug-weed
lol an 8th? first time yeah that'd be sound.
But whats everyone saying "an 8th will last you a while"
What are you primary school kids? an 8th is 1 sesh standard and a mediocre one at that.
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#32
 2008-12-17, 16:21
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Re: Good first drug-weed
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Originally Posted by king_spi_ral
lol an 8th? first time yeah that'd be sound.
But whats everyone saying "an 8th will last you a while"
What are you primary school kids? an 8th is 1 sesh standard and a mediocre one at that.
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Maybe if you're with a huge group of people. I usually smoke with 1 or 2 people max, we get high and then do something else, not just sit around blazing weed just for the sake of doing it. An eighth should last you a while if you aren't going nuts with it. Not to say I haven't smoked eights in short amounts of time, but usually no...
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#33
 2008-12-17, 16:30
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Re: Good first drug-weed
Yeah, but an eighth lasting a week? That's ridiculous. If it lasts anymore than a day, you're lucky, or stay high longer than most people. I don't just sit there blazing and blazing just for the sake of blazing. I smoke until I'm as high as I want to be. Then when I start to come down/feel sober, I smoke to get high again. Rinse and repeat until out of weed.
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#34
 2008-12-17, 20:49
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Re: Good first drug-weed
you also just said in another thread how you smoked 3 ounces to yourself or some shit. Perhaps youre not the best baseline. And perhaps you should move on to ket cos it sounds like youre smoking to get the same sorta effects, and that shit is cheap as fuck here like 10-15 on the g.
An 8th will last me a week i spose, im just not high all the time...
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#35
 2008-12-17, 21:19
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Re: Good first drug-weed
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Originally Posted by LegalizeSpiritualDiscovry
I've never heard anyone call a half-eighth a 1/16 before... Anyways, just smoke the whole 1/8.
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I've never heard anyone buy a half-eight. Where I'm from if you're buying under 1/8th you buy grams. Who the fuck smokes an eighth in a day? You must be purchasing beasters
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#36
 2008-12-17, 21:26
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Re: Good first drug-weed
Yeah, 0.5 is a pretty phat spliff in my opinion. I'd put less than 1g in a blunt, too (that's UK blunts, rolled pure in blunt papers).
Since an 8th is 3.5/3.4gs it'll probably last you about a week. Goddamn virgins and their inexpensive fun!
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#37
 2008-12-17, 21:33
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Re: Good first drug-weed
The only reason people don't get high their first time is because they don't have a good hookup.
4srs.
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#38
 2008-12-21, 21:56
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Re: Good first drug-weed
Alright, went "down the lines" (former traintacks, now is really nice walkway , surrounded by trees and fields etc) last wednesday. So we go up to this woody bit.
Me and my friend T, didn't have a lesson until 12:30, and it was like 9:00 now.
We put 1/16th into a cheap ghettoy home made bong XD. Puffed on that.
got pretty baked -turned Ipod on.
Blasted eminem, (yeah I know :P) and it was suprisingly good. Was a bit lapsidasical but enjoyed it, I was "chilled"(this is normally hard for me to do)
Then we sat and talked for ages, and then I got really fucking hungry, so I scoffed a mars bar (or 3 :P).
Then I was like-shit what if they can smell it. So we bring out deoderant, spray a shitload all over. I also change my hoody, and we share a pack of spearmints.
We snuck onto a farm and climbed over/jumped on some hay (XD).
Then we talked some more, I think I was "coming down"
by now. We walked back, and sprayed more deoderant. Went to toilets to wash face and hands, and bought a pot noodle from cafeteria to mask smell some more.
Went to RE, and thought really deeply about Situation Ethics :P
Awesome first time-thanks for the help!

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#39
 2008-12-21, 23:29
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Re: Good first drug-weed
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Originally Posted by Jazzy_Ways
Hey guys, newfag drug user here.
For my first purchase, should I get an 1/8 of weed, smoke 1/16th first time to break down defences, then 1/16th next time to get high.
What is the best way to smoke? I have heard about "waterfall bongs", should I make up one of these?
On Erowid it says it lasts 4 hours, but you peak after one then gradually decrease.
So if I took 1/16th at like 9:00, I should pretty much be fine by 12:30?
And for covering smell, deodorant/chewing gum good enough, plus being outside for like 3 hours, then eating a pot noodle. Would that cover it?
Cheers,
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Be careful with axe though. Sometimes reeking like axe is more of a giveaway than smelling a little like pot to smart parents. You'll be fine by 12:30, it's pretty easy to pull off being blazed in front of people IMO.
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#40
 2008-12-21, 23:59
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Re: Good first drug-weed
fuck weed man start
with the rock fuck you be ballin like all those niggaz in south detroit get some brillo and a straight shooter find your local supplier its pretty easy if you want crack and start smokin!!!!!!
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#41
 2008-12-22, 00:02
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Re: Good first drug-weed
Yeah, dont even bother with deodourant except you usual underarm squirt, thats more of a give away and the smell is long gone after a few hours especially if you have been outdoors and only smoked a little. Your only going to smell if you have been having a serious smoking session in an enclosed space like a car or small room. All new smokers are paranoid about the smell but really you dont have to worry as much as you think.
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