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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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 2008-12-15, 18:26
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Potentiation of good opiates with cheap opiates
Oxycodone is one of the very expensive opiates, and has a very distinct high compared to other opes... therefore using alcohol to boost effects changes the nature of the high to more sedated, same with diphen, benzos or muscle relaxants. Never felt much difference from WGJ.
I find that DXM and tums are the most worthwile potentiators, along with cimetidine but thats only for hydrocodone imo.
What is the best thing to make your opiates make you more opiated? more opiates! :)
Here is my example on how to get the most out of your opes:
Most affordable opiates in my area are: fent patches (50mcg/hr watson = $20), morphine xr (120mg = 8$), hydromorphone (4mg=$4), poppy pods and kratom tea.
Some time ago (tolerance is a bitch) all I needed to get off was 20mgs of oxycodone snorted, now its around 30-40mgs, but when I am wearing fent patch for at least 6 hours all i need is a 5-10mg bump every 20-30 mins to be high as a kite throughout the night :) obvious benefit is that i could have 2 OC80 for $100 but for lesser price ($70) I could get a patch and the oc and have even more of a blast, even though i do not like fent by itself at all.
Another example is tooting oc into one nostril and hydromorph into the other for ultimate synergy - better and cheaper high than an proportionaly increased amount of oxy by itself can produce.
I was curious if any of you guys ever used morphine/fentanyl/pods/kratom/hydromorph to get the most out of your opiate of choice, im mainly interested in your experiences in mixing above mentioned cheap opiates with following: oxycodone, oxymorphone, and hydrocodone. What I am trying to find out is which drug's effect would be more dominant/apparent.
What I am trying to conclude is wether it is possible for thershold/light doses of affordable opiates can significantly increase the effects of harder to get and/or more expensive opiates to any appreciable level. And if so, how does it change the nature of the buzz. Please share your experiences :)
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 2008-12-15, 18:29
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Re: Potentiation of good opiates with cheap opiates
It'll work, of course, but you'd better watch your ass if you're getting into the habit of slapping on Duragesics and then putting other opes up your nose.
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#3
 2008-12-15, 18:36
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Re: Potentiation of good opiates with cheap opiates
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Originally Posted by Piles Of Crack
It'll work, of course, but you'd better watch your ass if you're getting into the habit of slapping on Duragesics and then putting other opes up your nose.
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Hey thanks for the concern! Im not your typical "lets get really fucked up" person, I am more of "how to make this OC80 last 3 days" person. Therefore this thread :)
But I just KNOW you probably have mixed some of the above in the past. If so, please let me know how that went for you.
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 2008-12-15, 18:42
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Re: Potentiation of good opiates with cheap opiates
Well I was never huge into opiates. I liked them, of course, but I tended to abstain because of low availability in my area and the fact that it was almost guaranteed for me to develop a high level of nausea with even relatively low-end recreational doses. Heroin never bothered my stomach, though...but anyways...
I've combined oxycodone with hydrocodone before, by railing/eating an OC and then popping some Vicodin afterwards, which works fine, of course. I've also eaten Kratom resin prior to smoking fent and got high as a motherfucker doing that one. Tramadol was always good with some OC, of course, if you can get your hands on that, but be warned that, for me at least, it ALWAYS potentiated the itch about 10 fold, so you might want to pop some antihistamines beforehand.
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 2008-12-15, 18:53
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Re: Potentiation of good opiates with cheap opiates
Last weekend I bumped 30 mg of oxycodone after railing 3 bags, that felt nice. I've eaten 120 mg of morphine then bumped some oxycodone, that also felt nice.
Do I think its really worthwhile to mix opiates? Occasionally, if it seems cost effective. I normally pay $40-50 for an OC 80, $15 for 60 mg extended release morphine, and $60 for a bundle of dope. Unless it isn't available, I normally choose the diesel.
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 2008-12-15, 18:57
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Re: Potentiation of good opiates with cheap opiates
I thought hydromorphine>oxycodone..
or is it just cause it's cheaper?
anyways, never combined any myself, but would be interested in kratom and tramadol potentiation (the cheap and easy to get op like compounds.)
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 2008-12-15, 19:01
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Re: Potentiation of good opiates with cheap opiates
mixing opiates is fucking win...
you should try eating an XR opiate as intended, and then getting high..;)
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 2008-12-15, 20:48
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Re: Potentiation of good opiates with cheap opiates
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Originally Posted by penguinjam
I thought hydromorphine>oxycodone..
or is it just cause it's cheaper?
anyways, never combined any myself, but would be interested in kratom and tramadol potentiation (the cheap and easy to get op like compounds.)
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Allthough oxy probably gives the best and cleanest euphoria of all common opiates the rush from IV hydroM will top any orgasm you ever or could hope to ever have.
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#9
 2008-12-15, 21:05
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Re: Potentiation of good opiates with cheap opiates
One of the best nods iv had was 300mg Codeine and 20mg Oxy with the usual potentiation formula. Normally I could do the same amount or maybe a little more and get a reasonable although shortish buzz and as I dont get opes very often thats on a low tolerance. However together they were pure bliss, although I was off to the toilet to throw up at least every hour it was one of the times where vomiting has not been a negative enough side affect to ruin the high, even if it was the most times iv thrown up in a night through drug/alcohol related consumption.
It definitely potentiated both massively in combination.
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 2008-12-15, 23:59
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Re: Potentiation of good opiates with cheap opiates
I get loads of hydrocodone and tramadol, and for a while pentazocine was really cheap and easy to find too. All of those are pretty shitty on their own, but are great potentaors - especially pentazocine.
Those are the only cheap opiates around here, except tar. Where do you live that fent and HM are that fucking cheap? I never even seen fent around, but i bet it'd be expensive as hell.
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#11
 2008-12-18, 23:01
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Re: Potentiation of good opiates with cheap opiates
Those are the only cheap opiates around here, except tar. Where do you live that fent and HM are that fucking cheap? I never even seen fent around, but i bet it'd be expensive as hell.
Midwest..
Even at $20 a patch I only bought 5 and that was like 5 months ago and I still have 3 left, and I actually wont use them unless i happen to hurt badly or ween hard... mainly because there is like no euphoria and it affects my breathing quite severely so its not even worth it. sublingd gel doesnt work that well at all, wearing it gives you the most out of it esp. if you apply heat to it+dry shave before sticking it on. Smoking it will give you most compulsive rush-junkie-habbit, and whichever way you do it you will be shooting your opiate tolerance sky high - within a year of daily hydrocodone i went up from 30mgs to 45mgs, but two 3-day binges on wearing the patch and i need 50-60mgs HC to feel the same. In conclusion, fuck fentanyl. Maybe good for nod-lovers but noddin is never my goal when oped up.
Hydromorphone I only came across 2 people who had it so the price might vary on streets. One guy had M2 for $5 a piece and the other has M4 for $4 to $6 a piece. I never tried enough hydromorph at once to feel anything even slightly spectacular, but i wont IV it either so its just not worth that much for me.
I recently realized how good plain old morphine was, and i started liking it over hydros esp because 120mgs is only $8 and it will get me messed up twice for like 5 hrs each time :)
But oxy and hydro is still expensive - shitty teva 80s go for $40 at best, brand name OC80 go for $50
and 10/325 norcos go for $5 or $6, percs 10/325 go for $6 to $7. Codeine juice is ridiculously expensive, oxymorphone is non-existant :(
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