Alright, I know this topic gets beat to death everyone hour but as with everyone - I feel like my situation possess some uniqueness (which it probably doesn't). Heads up, it's long - but I've done my best to paragraph, edit grammar/spelling for your reading and commenting convenience.

Anyways - to the topic

So classes are coming to a close and I've recently been becoming quite close with this girl from my Greek class (which is finished as of now - exam done and everything). On the first day, I scoped this girl out from the other side of the class and told myself "I'm going to meet this girl". Low and behold, self actualization works its magic and she ends up being in my tutorial class. Her, a handful of other people from the tutorial and myself all started hanging out in class/in tutorial but never outside of class. Gradually I started to get to know this girl, finding out she has a 22 year old boyfriend (she's 17 first year student, I'm 19 second year). At first I was thinking to say fuck it and move on, but recently my mind changed. We started to get pretty flirtatious in class, me teasing her and the usual and then one day I was at the uni studying and she met up with me after her exam. Tight. We hung around for a couple hours just walking around and stuff - great time. Next day, her and I study alone and don't get anything done, we just talked for hours and kicked it having a blast with each other.

While hanging out we started getting pretty close, teasing each other - lots of touchy/feel stuff but nothing over the top but we definitely started to realize we had a connection. We were supposed to study two days later but I ended up staying up too late and just told her to come to my place which she surprisingly agreed to. Now I normally don't do this stuff, but this girl is an angel - arguably the perfect girl. So I made up some cappuccinos and a nice wood fire and we hung around attempting to study but mostly talking while she was laying against me. Good stuff as usual. Next day, we have the exam for the class. Expected conversational awkwardness the day before, but still some flirting. We finish around the same time. So that was her last exam, and I still have a couple to go. She comes with me after the test and hangs out with me despite that she could have gone home whenever considering it would have been pretty damn boring watching me study. But we talked a bunch and she was sitting in the same chair as me rubbing my back just being a generally cute, irresistible female.

That was yesterday, and needless to say I can't stop thinking about this. We've been texting (SMS for non north americans) a bunch but I have this irritating tendency to come on too strong etc etc. It's clear that she likes me and she knows that I'm definitely interested but I have no idea what to do from here. I've fucked it up with many a girl before by talking to them too much or trying to hang out with them too often and made the mistake of asking her to a movie today which she said she was going to come to and ditched out on at the last minute saying her mom didn't want her driving. She said she was sorry and that she promises to make it up to me. I said don't stress blah blah blah. So for the next 3 days I have a bunch of exams, then on wednesday Im done and we're both going to be at Mstrkrft (sick.)

So enough background, I'm stuck as to what to do. So many thoughts are running through my head and I really don't want to fuck this right up as its the first time in a long while where I've actually been genuinely interested in a female. So I appeal to you, SA of &T for advice as to what I should do from here? Any suggestions on conversation amounts etc etc would be great.

Apologies for the length, fuck a TL;DR version as I think the whole thing applies.

I see what you are getting at man.... You don't want to come off as being too needy, because girls need some challenge. They don't want a Jerk, but you cant just be everything they want all at once kinda thing.

( often we desire what we can't have)

I would just be yourself. If you text her and she doesn't text back. Don't do this:

"Hi"
"Hey"
"What's up"
"how are you"
"hello"

basically don't be all obsessive. She might think thats weird, same goes for phone calls lol.

I think you should hang out with her, You seemed to be on the right track there man, Just relaxin' and let the relations take themselves^^

Stop thinking so much about it.

When you want to do something with her, ask her when she's free next. So you get to hang out with her but she pretty much chooses the time and date. Instead of "You want to hang out *Insert day here*?"

This way, she gets more freedom, it shows you she does want to hang out with you, and it doesn't come off as if you're needy.

Your best bet is to be yourself. Don't push anything, just let everything flow into place naturally. If she can't talk, it's okay. She'll get back to you another time.


Good luck, my friend.

-Nick

I gather that her boyfriend is a long distance thing? You need to drop it. Get the idea of dating her out of your head. Let me lay it out for you:

She has a boyfriend. Point blank, no talking around it; she is in a relationship. And as wonderful a guy he may be, he isn't around in person to give her the physical intimacy and affection that she wants, so she is outsourcing, using you for those things that her boyfriend can't give her. Trust me on this: in her mind you're just an extension of her boyfriend.

I know it sounds crazy, and I know it's not what you want to hear, but it's the truth. If she didn't want to be in a relationship with this guy, she wouldn't be. Be friends, go on letting her be cute and cuddly and all that, but don't confuse what you mean to her or where your relationship with her is headed, because it will eat you alive.

He has a good point there..... girls are suckers for attention. Unless you know this is going to work in your favor don't get attached.

Who's to say she wont leave the other guy for the OP though heh. I have stolen women from other boys before, not that hard ^^

Well with respect to the boyfriend situation - it isn't long distance and he also goes to the same uni. Whenever Im hanging out with her, she mentions how irritating he is and how she wishes he would fuck up so she could break up with him. I've only asked about him once, but she brings up things she doesn't like about him, irritation with his actions etc without me invoking anything about him.

She's also talked about how she wants to meet my family and thinks she'd be good friends with my sister.

I was in this position before, I told the girl I would like to kiss her. She soon broke up with her boyfriend

Just keep doin' what you are doing, let her figure it out for herself I'd say not to force it.

I repeat: if she didn't want to be with him, she wouldn't be. This just changes your role from boyfriend surrogate to emotional tampon.

You obviously don't know women very well. Most women are pussies and they will not break up with a guy unless they have an overt reason to do so, even if they aren't really happy with the relationship. Usually they will just wait until the guy breaks it off, unless he does something really bad that she can use it as an excuse, or if something better comes along.