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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-12-14, 06:22
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selling drugs
How many of you ever thought about selling drugs for a main source of income. Hell even you really drug pushers how does the money feel?. I was wondering, as I live in a new apartment and dont have shit for a job, how drug dealing really is, and how it feels to have some money coming in, but also selling. I mean I would sketch out some of the times selling, you never know whos gonna bust you or whats gonna happen. Is it really all like scarface with out the massive amounts of money?. I mean is it really that easy to collect 1 grand in a short period?. I know the risk of DEA and such, but how does it feel?.
Anyways....
(I hope you all have a good holiday coming up. I shall be around for a bit helping out.....its been a bit!)
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#2
 2008-12-14, 06:24
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Re: selling drugs
selling drugs is way too much work
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#3
 2008-12-14, 06:38
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Re: selling drugs
Don't bother, selling drugs is not even close to as easy as you perceive it.
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#4
 2008-12-14, 06:40
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Re: selling drugs
it was like that, back in the 70's in miami, but not anymore really.
unless, of course, you are selling white blue mushrooms.
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#5
 2008-12-14, 07:16
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Re: selling drugs
Its not so much hard, as it is time consuming. Especially if you want enough to live off of. You've got to be ready to make a deal any time of the day for that kind of thing, or make nothing but big sells, which is super hot.
You have to be able to read people really well. If you don't want to get caught up, you have to weed out the good customers from the bad quickly.
You have to conduct yourself a certain way if you intend to succeed, too. You don't need to be a hard ass all the time, but you have to be able to tell people no. They will ask favors, and for deals a lot. It might be temping to cut $5 here, so you can make a quick sale, but if you start giving in when they ask, it starts a bad precedent.
Also, your customers ain't your friends. Even if a friend is buying off you, hes not. You'll end up losing money off this.
Also, no fucking fronts! Even if you get collateral, its just a huge fucking hassle.
There's more to it than this, but that's a start. I'd seriously just do it as supplemental income if you are going to at all.
Its really not as glamorous as you'd think, and it is a lot of work. It gets very tiring dealing with all the drama and all the many many different people. Its really a big fucking headache, man. Especially when people think you're "boys" with them. Which people always do.
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#6
 2008-12-14, 18:16
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Re: selling drugs
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Originally Posted by Rizzo in a box
selling drugs is way too much work
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No it isn't. You don't have a clue dude.
People come to you for drugs. All you have to do is know people and keep up a cool appearance. They will almost always take care of transportation and all you usually have to do is 1.) Get drugs and 2.) don't get caught.
So yeah, don't say it's too much work. Back when I was selling E I was getting rid of sometimes more than 2 boats per 1-2 weeks. The key is to sell to dealers, don't even fuck around with singles.
You can make a shit ton of money at raves. People are already on psychedelics, it shouldn't be too hard to convince them to buy more.
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#7
 2008-12-14, 18:24
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Re: selling drugs
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Originally Posted by Rizzo in a box
selling drugs is way too much work
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QFT.
Also, if you don't know enough customers you will end up putting up $x and not have it until you have sold that amount of drugs. If the customers don't come fast enough you will end up doing the drugs you have have. What are you thinking of selling?
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#8
 2008-12-14, 18:38
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Re: selling drugs
Follow these rules...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFHUqrNUs2M
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#9
 2008-12-14, 19:21
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Originally Posted by TheHappyChemical
Its not so much hard, as it is time consuming. Especially if you want enough to live off of. You've got to be ready to make a deal any time of the day for that kind of thing, or make nothing but big sells, which is super hot.
You have to be able to read people really well. If you don't want to get caught up, you have to weed out the good customers from the bad quickly.
You have to conduct yourself a certain way if you intend to succeed, too. You don't need to be a hard ass all the time, but you have to be able to tell people no. They will ask favors, and for deals a lot. It might be temping to cut $5 here, so you can make a quick sale, but if you start giving in when they ask, it starts a bad precedent.
Also, your customers ain't your friends. Even if a friend is buying off you, hes not. You'll end up losing money off this.
Also, no fucking fronts! Even if you get collateral, its just a huge fucking hassle.
There's more to it than this, but that's a start. I'd seriously just do it as supplemental income if you are going to at all.
Its really not as glamorous as you'd think, and it is a lot of work. It gets very tiring dealing with all the drama and all the many many different people. Its really a big fucking headache, man. Especially when people think you're "boys" with them. Which people always do.
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yah you said it a lot better than I did
there is absolutely zero room for nice guys in the drug dealing business
No it isn't. You don't have a clue dude.
People come to you for drugs. All you have to do is know people and keep up a cool appearance. They will almost always take care of transportation and all you usually have to do is 1.) Get drugs and 2.) don't get caught.
So yeah, don't say it's too much work. Back when I was selling E I was getting rid of sometimes more than 2 boats per 1-2 weeks. The key is to sell to dealers, don't even fuck around with singles.
You can make a shit ton of money at raves. People are already on psychedelics, it shouldn't be too hard to convince them to buy more.
Yah I guess if you have some nice set up it can be easy but most of the time it's just going to be a hassle
And if you REALLY want to make money you might have to provide transportation yourself
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#10
 2008-12-14, 19:25
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Re: selling drugs
Lol@ Some of you people. Some of the comments here, I fucking swear. I have to "provide transportation"? Lol, I thought people stopped nick and dimin' it in high school.
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#11
 2008-12-14, 19:57
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Originally Posted by Azure
Lol@ Some of you people. Some of the comments here, I fucking swear. I have to "provide transportation"? Lol, I thought people stopped nick and dimin' it in high school.
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Most of these people are still IN high school.
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#12
 2008-12-14, 19:57
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Re: selling drugs
Most of these people are still IN high school.
Not too many HS pplz can drive.
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#13
 2008-12-14, 20:26
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Re: selling drugs
Its always been there in the back of my mind and iv dabbled more than a few times but never found it profitable enough to make a living off. At the moment its a huge thing to me as I have no job and income but as long as I still live with my parents I will never grow or bring large quantities of drugs into my house again because as far as im concerned its unfair on them and downright disrespectful.
The way I see it the only way your going to make a lot of money from it is to grow/produce the product yourself to sell or buy in obcenely large quantities to take advantage of price breaks and profit margins. Both of these have huge legal ramifications if you get caught compared to straight up small time dealing and due to the fact that you are out there on the streets, communicating with people who know what you are doing you have a much higher risk of getting caught or robbed. You can never trust every single person you sell to and it only takes one person to talk to the wrong people and its going to come round and bite you on the arse. Also to make decent amounts of money you are going to need a constant demand and large costomer base which requires you to be on call pretty much constantly as well as having to deal with constant phone calls and security issues such as the risk of being robbed or ratted out by the increacing number of customers you dont know because selling just to friends is never going to get you anywhere in the dealing world and even then when it comes to drugs you cant trust everyone you consider friends.
Iv always considered in the near future when I move out and im driving to start growing and selling but its just not worth the risk and I would much rather continue the search to find a legitimate way to make a living.
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#14
 2008-12-14, 20:44
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Re: selling drugs
I've done it, sort of.
When I decided I didn't want to do shrooms again I just sold the rest.
It is good money, very good money. Got the shrooms at £1/g and selling them at £20 for 3g, so thats like £17 profit for every 3g sold.
Selling weed is just pointless unless you get ounces shit cheap, there's no money in it at all, doesn't justify the potential criminal record. Selling harder drugs is too risky, one of my mates sold coke for a while when he was 16 and got jumped by 5 Polish dudes and ended up in hospital. Fuck that.
So yea, the only thing I would sell are shrooms, it's the safest and easiest way to make good returns, especially if you grow them.
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#15
 2008-12-14, 23:24
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Re: selling drugs
Selling drugs is something you probably don't want to get into. All it will take is one of your customers getting arrested, and the police will offer them a deal if they rat you out. I hate to say it, but I imagine at least 50% of the customers only have their self-interests in mind.
Be especially careful with college students, because if they get arrested, they usually get expelled from school, and will rat out a dealer to keep from getting arrested. That happened at my college campus numerous times.
Also, depending on your state, the penalties could be horrible. Get on Norml, and look at the sentencing guidelines for your state before you even think about it. If you are in a place like Maine, it isn't that bad if you are caught, but don't deal in any of the red (republican) states. They usually associate drugs with black people, and are racist assholes.
I got arrested in Maryland for growing, and they charged me with distribution as well. I got court in 2 days, and I am facing 11 years. I got lucky though, and I was offered a reduced sentence and my distribution was dropped completely, so I am likely to only get probation.
I learned this the hard way, even though I wasn't a dealer, I grew for my own personal use. But, I still got charged with it initially, and my bail was $75,000.
So, be very careful if you choose to sell drugs, but my advice is not to. Just use like you are now, and you won't ever get caught unless you do something stupid. Being a dealer has too many possible risks, with too little benefit.
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#16
 2008-12-15, 02:28
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Re: selling drugs
if you do it right from powering up to putting it in the customers hands the potential for profit is ceiling-less. i know people who make $10,000 a week offing drugs and i know people making $100 a week and getting high for free.
it's like being an avon lady really, the amount of work and smarts you put into it is proportionate to your rewards. of course it involved a lot of risk but if you sit down with someone who knows what they are talking about you should figure out some pretty basic concepts when it comes to doing things smart..
if you really want me to elaborate IM me. i guess i can talk about it now since i no longer slang but i've sold everything under the sun and started 6 years ago when i was 14. started with bud, occasional ounces of shrooms, occasional packs of MDMA, moved on to coke and kept kind bud on deck. sold like 2 grams of 2c-i for a while (TONS AND TONS of money to be made that way) then for a very brief stint was selling heroin.
it's cool it's fun but it's too much paranoia if you want to make it worth your while. weed is fun to sell but not real profits, and when you begin selling heroin and coke you not only have fiends scheming to skeet you or find out where you stay but you also run the risk of people getting caught and flipping on you since it's a felony and also the risk of people ODing on your shit cuz they are retards.
think about IM me whatever you wanna do
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#17
 2008-12-15, 04:11
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Re: selling drugs
yah you said it a lot better than I did
there is absolutely zero room for nice guys in the drug dealing business
Yah I guess if you have some nice set up it can be easy but most of the time it's just going to be a hassle
And if you REALLY want to make money you might have to provide transportation yourself
No, if they REALLY want their drugs, they'll pick me the fuck up and drive me to my dealer. I've had people drive me from Southern Arizona to san fransisco to pick up ills. You definitely possess their sole reason for even talking to you. Plus, High school is the easiest place to sell shit. Most of your customers are located within a tight 100 meter radius. Also, popular kids will sell drugs for you too, usually for little to no compensation, to increase their status. At one point I sold rolls to 2 separate kids who then competed against each other to sell ,my pills.
And what do you mean by hassle? Two years ago when I was building my base, all I would have to do is go to a house party every Friday and a rave on saturday, and I would have at least 15 new customers and the majority of a roll sold.All you have to do is make an appearance and market your medicine. For gods sake, most of the rave scene thinks that those "triple stacked, heroin-based" transformers will make you nod. Anyways, saying "Need 'illz" is much easier than saying "Hello My name is ______."
The game of ills is exhilarating as long as you are prepared, have fools that will get your back, and never charge more than $15 for a single. And people will get your back once you do become big enough.
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#18
 2008-12-15, 04:29
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Re: selling drugs
there are a lot of var you get it iables selling drugs.
first of all is your source.
can you get as much as you need to sell?
can you always get it?
how cheap is it compared to street value?
if you can get all you need whenever you need it at a good price, then it just might be worth your while.
next we ask some questions about you.
what do you want to sell?
do you consume this substance?
are you willing to say no to "friends"?
If you use the substance you want to sell just give up on making money now. if you can't say no, give up.
Also you have to consider some of the finer points. if you get cheap yay and cook your own rocks then sling them on the street you can make bank, but you should also probably carry a gun and get good at outrunning cops.
if you sell weed out of your house to friends then you're probably won't make a whole lot but there is a lot less risk.
every situation is different.
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#19
 2008-12-15, 04:43
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Re: selling drugs
all of this is completely hypothetical but,
when I was selling weed , i was selling weight and had a really good connections. I would pick up 15-20 pounds about 3 times a week. I was making about 3300 a week from this. I could have made more but at this point i didnt care. It was very nice,and i did it for about 2 months and had tons of cash. My main dealer got busted and this fucked up my income. So now I actually play online poker for a living,but yeah...
getting a pound of reggie for $375 when i was buyin a ton of weed and selling them for 575 and stuff...
pretty profitable
just AIM me i guess if you want advice ,or something
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#20
 2008-12-15, 04:49
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Re: selling drugs
;10812312']all of this is completely hypothetical but,
when I was selling weed , i was selling weight and had a really good connections. I would pick up 15-20 pounds about 3 times a week. I was making about 3300 a week from this. I could have made more but at this point i didnt care. It was very nice,and i did it for about 2 months and had tons of cash. My main dealer got busted and this fucked up my income. So now I actually play online poker for a living,but yeah...
getting a pound of reggie for $375 when i was buyin a ton of weed and selling them for 575 and stuff...
pretty profitable
just AIM me i guess if you want advice ,or something
Those figures don't add up at all. 
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#21
 2008-12-15, 05:38
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Those figures don't add up at all. 
Yeah man, its called "e-figures," or lies/exaggerations of reality. Of course they're not gonna add up. Give him a break brotha, he's got a long e-dick and he's gotta stroke it somewhere...
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#22
 2008-12-15, 06:35
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Re: selling drugs
And what do you mean by hassle?
The game of ills is exhilarating as long as you are prepared, have fools that will get your back, and never charge more than $15 for a single. And people will get your back once you do become big enough.
Damm, the modern day Nino Brown right here on totse, im fucking flattered
I need them illz man 
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#23
 2008-12-15, 06:37
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Re: selling drugs
It's alright, assuming that you like late-night phone-calls and visits, and you like associating with a large array of people; ranging from high-school teenagers, to slutty girls, to strippers to outright junkies. It isn't glamorous, and it can be dangerous, but if you know what you're doing, and you can find cheap suppliers, the money can be good.
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#24
 2008-12-15, 06:51
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Re: selling drugs
Live your life my friend, decide for yourself, what do we know about your situation? Youre nothing but lines of text to us, so examine your own world and work things to your advantage
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#25
 2008-12-15, 10:10
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Re: selling drugs
Yeah good luck...
First you pick up your first QP of weed. Smoke some, sell some and you see that this aint shit.. So you pick up another QP, you get more customers, but you are smoking more weed for each day that goes by. Eventually you are up to half pounds, even pounds or more.
The money is getting to you.. You get more greedy, you harden up... The competition is fucking with your income. You see that weed isnt enough money anymore so you start selling pills, speed etc.
Life is good at this point.. you are moving ounces of speed in a day plus all the weed you have.. You lost count on how many pills you have...
You get higher and higher for each day that goes by.. When was the last time you were really sober ? I dont know.. Dont remember... Dont give a fuck...
Im tired, time to call my personal driver.. You feel like now you are rolling.. You got all the drugs you want, all the cash, all the friends... Fuck even your own driver that is driving you everywhere you please.. All the fuel he needs is a quarter G of speed... People look up to you now, get jealous.. You know this.. you feel more and moe satisfied about yourself, but also more stuck up with yourself, blinded by all the money, drugs and daily parties.
You start doing coke, smack and all the crap you can get your hands on.. You are on top of the world.. You start hustling other dealers.. Like shit youll let someone font you 2 grand worth of drugs and youll be like sayonara and get even higher..
You are now doing coke and smack on a daily basis. You are livin it man... Even though you know it on your inside, you dont give a fuck.. you are on the way to become a burned out junkie, dealer, whatever..
You let people know you are the boss, when they refuse to see this you build up in anger and let loose. Shit you can take down 2, maybe even 3 guys by yourself. Youse a hard muthafucka now, eh ?
You continue to walk around getting all high on yourself day by day until one day 3 guys at about a 220 lbs minimum jump you as you are picking up heroin at a crack house.. Thee is nothing you can do.. Theres way too much muscle to handle.. You let in, you can see, hell even hear the blood spraying from your head and hittying the walls, everywhere.. Its runnig down from your head like a strawberry milkshake got poured all over you.. Your brand new jacket you bought the other day is no longer black.. its red.. You are left with nothing, you ask to borrow a bag of dope from a dealer before you put on your hoodie to cover all the blood on your head.. throw away your jacket, you get home and smoke your bag of dope.. Even though you should probably be in the ER by now.. You figure by the situation and the outcome of it you were really lucky as hell. You could easily be killed back there.
Thats my story.. NO it was NOT worth it in the end. Hell yeah it was fun while it lasted,i had a fucking blast all day everyday.. But is it really worth it ? pulling all this crap into your family, completely destroying yourself and your family, even though you dont realize it yet, itll come right back at you one day, just like it did with me, and it will always do..
I say if you can handle the ugly part, sure go ahead its party time muthafuckas. If you cant just leave it... You are only THAT hard. Just cause it seems like you are the hardest fo a while, you are not.
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#26
 2008-12-15, 12:54
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Re: selling drugs
A definite must read:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6866840
Interview with a succesfull New york drug dealer, how he got started, how he operates, how he intends to get out of the game
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#27
 2008-12-15, 18:35
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Re: selling drugs
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Originally Posted by Mokothar
A definite must read:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6866840
Interview with a succesfull New york drug dealer, how he got started, how he operates, how he intends to get out of the game
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Good read.
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#28
 2008-12-15, 21:19
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Re: selling drugs
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Originally Posted by Mokothar
A definite must read:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6866840
Interview with a succesfull New york drug dealer, how he got started, how he operates, how he intends to get out of the game
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that was way too long :( but once i start reading something i cant stop  dammit
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#29
 2008-12-15, 21:22
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Re: selling drugs
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Originally Posted by Mokothar
A definite must read:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6866840
Interview with a succesfull New york drug dealer, how he got started, how he operates, how he intends to get out of the game
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see? that guy had to walk around to meet his customers
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