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Old 2008-12-12, 23:24
MR.Kitty55 MR.Kitty55 is offline
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Default I'm Getting My Dad Ayahuascha For Christmas

I told him about how I've taken acid and shrooms and how it was a life changing experience...I had all this bad shit flood back and it kind of saved my relationship between my parents and I...(I'm 18 btw in college)....So he expressed some interest in taking mescaline with me since I've told him about all the spiritual benefits and what not and he used to be a pot smoking alcoholic back in the day so he said he would probably try it ...however, hes never done a psychedelic, just weed....


I've currently got my hands on some psychotria viridis and some grounded peganum harmala...Enough for two doses....I'm going to write him a really personal spiritual father son story (I'm very into creative writing and philosophy) about overcoming life and how family holds people together in the face of massive adversity to give him (along with the planets to cook)

Hes currently going through a tough time (as I was too) and I think this will greatly benefit him...He used to have a bad drinking problem and has alot of demons...Think this is a good idea? I've read alot about ayahuascha and I think it could really be a life saver for him...
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Old 2008-12-12, 23:31
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I don't know...from what i've read ayahausca is extremely strong, I don't think it would be a good idea for someone who hasn't done any psychedelic before and probably hasn't done any research on it.

I would personally try a mellow mescaline trip before ayahausca...
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Old 2008-12-12, 23:36
MR.Kitty55 MR.Kitty55 is offline
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Default Re: I'm Getting My Dad Ayahuascha For Christmas

Has anyone on here tried Aya?
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Old 2008-12-13, 00:05
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I have not tried it, but from what I have heard/read, it's looks to be a powerful psychedelic for a first timer.
Then again, I've seen videos of people who have no experience with psychedelics that go down to south america for the trip. Seemed like they vomited alot then tripped real hard.

My 2 cents: Either (real) LSD or (pure) MDMA.

Peace.
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Old 2008-12-13, 00:07
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I have and Ill tell you this if he hasn't done any psychedelics I would go with something else I would just do like acid
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Old 2008-12-13, 00:14
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Originally Posted by CosmicZombie
I have and Ill tell you this if he hasn't done any psychedelics I would go with something else I would just do like acid


hmm..its just harder to get and i already have ayahuascha...but we shall see

i have 56 grams of san pedro tissue..however, i was going to be greedy and take it myself since you need a little more...
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Old 2008-12-13, 00:19
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Default Re: I'm Getting My Dad Ayahuascha For Christmas

I've never even heard of this shit and it's easier to get than mushrooms or LSD? pfft
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Old 2008-12-13, 00:24
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I've never even heard of this shit and it's easier to get than mushrooms or LSD? pfft


uh....clearly you don't know shit then, its not a fucking toy man, at least find the wiki on it, its a powerful combination of drugs.

hmm..its just harder to get and i already have ayahuascha...but we shall see

i have 56 grams of san pedro tissue..however, i was going to be greedy and take it myself since you need a little more...


I was thinking, maybe if you were gonna be home sometime soon you and he could do ecstasy together, in my opinion ecstasy is the best drug available to socialize and for empathy. If you still have some issues with parents you could really make some progress this way. :)
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Old 2008-12-13, 01:39
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Originally Posted by MR.Kitty55
Has anyone on here tried Aya?


Yar. Is there more to that question? :p
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Old 2008-12-13, 01:48
MR.Kitty55 MR.Kitty55 is offline
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Default Re: I'm Getting My Dad Ayahuascha For Christmas

Yar. Is there more to that question? :p


1.) chances of puking/diarrhea?

2.) Good for a first time tripper? (ma dad)

3.) Recommended Setting?

4.) Compared to Acid it is....? (Better, worse, same....feel free to elaborate or not..)
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Old 2008-12-13, 01:57
somewilliepete somewilliepete is offline
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Default Re: I'm Getting My Dad Ayahuascha For Christmas

I HAVE done ayahuasca.

For it to be a real spiritual healer, you should be with him for the journey, and there to talk with him.

Just sending someone non familiar with psychedelics on a trip would be a terrible idea. Not to mention the chance that it could really fuck your dad up if he happened to be on other medications that could interact with MAOI's and SSRI's.
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Old 2008-12-13, 02:03
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1.) chances of puking/diarrhea?

Inevitable.

2.) Good for a first time tripper? (ma dad)

No psychedelic over another will be any 'easier' for a first time tripper. A lot of people do ayahuasca as their first and only, but the same can be said for a lot of psychedelics.

3.) Recommended Setting?

Nature.

4.) Compared to Acid it is....? (Better, worse, same....feel free to elaborate or not..)

Every psychedelic is unique. It's all a matter of preference. There are tons of reports online that should give you a good idea of what he's in for.
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Old 2008-12-13, 02:16
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Default Re: I'm Getting My Dad Ayahuascha For Christmas

I was going to do it with him...bad or good idea?

should i be sober....
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Old 2008-12-13, 03:33
somewilliepete somewilliepete is offline
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I was going to do it with him...bad or good idea?

should i be sober....


Good idea to be with him.

Sober is really up to you, I wouldnt be.

Your chances of puking are very high. Thats why its called "the purge".
And man does the shit taste nasty.
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Old 2008-12-13, 04:45
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Make sure you carefully consider giving an ex alcoholic any drugs...there's my two cents.
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Old 2008-12-13, 05:30
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Default Re: I'm Getting My Dad Ayahuascha For Christmas

aya is very fun in low doses. its different from other psychs by the way it does not fuck up your cognition in doses that can still produce hallucinations. he will have a great time and you should be fine doing it together with him. i suggest waiting for a sunny day to do it in a park

and people don't tend to puke as much with harmaline/viridis as they do caapi/mimosa. though, there is a way to ensure you don't puke with ANY aya brew just by filtering out the tannins. google it for instructions (glycerin/egg-white tannin removal)
 
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