So I was just watching TV flicking around aimlessly when all of a sudden there were a bunch of feminazis with sandy vaginas on my screen, hammering on and on about how porn objectifies women.

My question is, how does watching the act of sexual intercourse magically make a women into an object?... Does porn objectify men if they are involved?... Shouldn't they be advocating that we all then should be wearing muslim attire to cover up as lusting over women in the same sense would be "objectifying" them.

You hear a lot of feminazis go on about this, but I'm still yet to be provided with a satisfactory answer.

dude, porn is all about women being used as sexual objects. I can't see how you can't understand that.

Because women are dumb.

Hence their roles in pornos!

yeah this pretty much sums it up.

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On the other side of the coin, that could just the feminazis "martyr" conditioning. That is the spin they are putting on the scenario. Men are used in the same videos... I'm sure if we got in first, we could have claimed women are using men as sexual objects.

YEAH

if they WEREN'T, maybe they'd keep their pussies from looking like they just got run through meat grinders. They are objectifying men by making us say "ooh, this looks hot" then clicking *pussy closeup* "what..the..FUCK..?" *flaccid*

You guys have it all wrong, porn objectifies men, its the goal of the man to pleasure the woman, the man is only there for his penis etc.

I read an interesting line from Daniel Craig about the James Bond films objectifying women he said something like "Actually I'm the one taking my shirt off and getting treated like a piece of meat." Thought it was funny. I don't really see how porn objectifies women, I think male porn actors should be applauded for performing under hot lights with some random skank. Women just need something to bitch about. They don't do anything real so what else can they do but bitch about how they are being treated?

Well, in this one porn I seen, the guy kept calling the girl his 'fuck hole' and his 'cum cavern' also, his 'piece of fuck meat'. He said he owned her 'loose slut cunt'. All this led me to believe that she was an object that he controlled. Like a lamp or a oven door.

this.
And plus, they are willing.
They're getting paid for it after all.

Because a lot of porn is based on degrading the woman (ie. cum facials) and various forms of humiliation to give the guy pleasure. It makes women look like they're pieces of meat that are only good for fucking.

But you know what, you know that they all actually like it. They just won't admit it.

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Porn in general doesn't objectify women any more then it objectifies men, you're right there.

But anyone who watches porn knows like 99% of porn out there is demeaning towards the woman.

Porn these days consists of "LOOK AT THOSE TITS! LOOK AT THOSE HOT BITCHES MAKE OUT! WATCH ME CUM ON HER FACE I OWNED THAT BITCH BRO!".

It's not cool that shit like what i poop in your cereal posted is considered the norm. Yeah it may be some peoples fetish, but it's not cool to make porn like that seem as available and normal as regular vanilla porn. Which it totally is. Go search "facial abuse" and "missionary" in your favorite streaming site and see which has the mose videos, most hits, the most views and most ratings. Not cool.

its the one of the things i hate about feminazis

after the hippie movement, and all that bra burning shit, they get to bang whoever they want, but now theyre called sluts

I got into an argument with a girl the other day about just this actually. She didn't give me any valid points and expected me to just accept it. She's fat and ginger. For the record, i'm a female.

You made lots of valid points, and I still fail to see the appeal of facial cumshots... Whatever happened to wholesome, good old-fashioned biracial midget orgies...

Don't get degrading and objectification mixed up.

My thoughts exactly. It's basically the entire reason why guys watch it. It's an escape from reality. In porn, there's no such thing as love or personality or emotion or any kind of real human depth, but there's also no such thing as consequences. If porn depicted women as complex individuals, most people would feel too guilty to get off on it.

Straight hardcore porn is 100% about accessing your inner sadistic beast and doing some serious deep-dicking & domination, in a world where you don't have to wear a condom or worry about hurt feelings or diseases or care about anything except your own satisfaction. And in this world, no one is an actual person: the male porn star is a fantasy version of you, and the female porn star is a fuckhole with tits and a pretty face. And of course this applies to any kind of porn, but the vast majority of porn is hetero, with men as the intended audience and women as the primary focus.

Porn is the #1 argument for evolution; it shows us that we're really nothing more than a bunch of advanced monkeys running around.

You don't get it. Guys watch porn to get off, not(Or well, mainly) to please any power-craving inner monster.

When I watch porn it's to learn and copy methods and positions, not to get a stiffy and beat off. As for porn objectifying women, mostly thats all it really does. Thats why I only watch amateur.

...srs?

you guys are dumb.

The main reason we watch is is because it objectifies women? Are you sure its not because it gets guys off?


To label it solely as an escape from reality wouldn't be an accurate observation. Sure, it may be an underlying sub-conscious motive, but it is a mere cog in the whole inter-mechanical workings of the psychology of why porn is a mans market. I think it would be more accurate to label it as a visual aid, not a mental escape.

There isn't any of that in say for example, computer games.

I think guys would just fast-forward though that bit.... I'm also willing to bet that even if guys did watch that part, once he saw tits it will completely erase what he saw previously.

While I don't agree with your statement, it cannot be discredited as this is true for a small amount of guys. But thats just like me saying "all girls have lesbian tenancies", being true to a degree (beable to cuddle, hold hands, cry etc.) . To be honest, I actually don't know anybody who is into that hard-core domination stuff. But hey, whatever works for them.

You're making it sound like porn is a substitute for the real thing. Like most would choose to watch porn rather than experience the real thing. Men would rather wear a condom and worry about STDs rather then sitting in front of his monitor with his cock in his hand. Thats the number 1 thing porn does, it frustrates.

Absolutely incorrect. As I explained earlier, porn isn't another world guys mentally escape into, they don't picture they're in it. It just a visual aid to arouse them, get themselves off and continue on with their day.


I'm actually somewhat drunk at the moment and I don't feel I got across what I wanted to say as eloquently as I can, but hopefully at least you now have a vague grasp at what I'm trying to get at.

To see a hysterical, hyper-emotional bipolar insane bitch get shut the fuck up and raped would probably reward a lot of guys with a much more gratifying wank than simple, straight up porn.

Yeah, I think it gets guys off partly because it objectifies women.

I'm not saying it's solely an escape from reality. I acknowledge the purely visual aspect, but there's a definite gap between a simple nude picture of a woman and what you see in Hustler or internet porn vids.

And that's why we kill random pedestrians in GTA.

That's not what I'm getting at, dude. I mean, you probably know how fucked in life a lot of porn stars are. Girls who are poor as hell, raising 3 kids already at age 22, addicted to whateverthefuck, coming from a broken home, etc -- nobody wants to think about this while beating off. I sure as hell don't, because it's fucking depressing.

I'm not referring to Max Hardcore type stuff, necessarily. Hardcore porn is anything beyond softcore Cinemax shit, meaning they show everything. Everyone I know watches that stuff, it's the majority of what's out there on the internet outside of photo galleries.

No, like I said, it's an escape from the complexities and consequences of the real thing. It's why, IMO, men who are less sexually experienced tend to be really into amateur (they want to be as close as possible to the real thing) while the others tend towards commercial. And yes, it does frustrate, because you can't access that in reality without running into all the other bullshit (unless you can afford to fuck hollywood hookers all the time).

Then why is straight porn so much more popular than lesbian? No heterosexual guy gets off on seeing a dick. The role of the male porn star is to allow the male viewer to imagine himself as the one who is doing the deep-dicking.

Same here

Jesus fucking CHRIST.

Nuclearwinter is right, and deadteenager is as wrong as he is gay.

Great argument. BTW, in case you forgot, this is what you posted earlier in this thread:

Porn does the exact opposite of objectifying women. Men find women sexually attractive for a reason. Feeling the urge to use a woman's body for its biological purpose only undermines her synthetic dignity, not any real human properties, if that makes any sense.

Well, women take it since they have a vagina, men have penis. If women had the penis, men would be objectified.

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