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Old 2008-12-12, 01:22
powerisknowlege powerisknowlege is offline
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Default Voter for marijuana on obama's web site change

http://change.gov/page/content/openforquestions

The poll ends tonight. He will answer the top questions. At the moment, the question is ranked at number 4. make it number one.

An effort being led by members of Shroomery, Dailykos, Grasscity, Marijuana.com, and other notable websites is currently under way to push for a marijuana related issue to reach the top of Obama's new Web 2.0 policy website. On this website, users can ask questions, and the top questions will likely get answered by Obama and his staff. Up to this point, there has been very little organized involvement on issues on Obama's new site. However, marijuana activists are some of the first ones to make a strong push to get their voices heard. This Marijuana related question went from 200 votes to 1600 and went from question #240 to question #11 in just a day. With more activism, this issue can be front and center on Obama's official website, change.org.

To be a PART of this news, I urge all of you to do the following:

1) Go to http://change.gov/page/content/openforquestions and register. It is very easy, you don't even need to check your email to verify.

2) Now go to the page two (or, if by the time you read this, if it is on the front page, page 1) and vote this question up:

"Will you consider legalizing marijuana so that the government can regulate it, tax it, put age limits on it, and create millions of new jobs and create a billion dollar industry right here in the U.S.?"

3) Watch as it climbs to the front page, and wait for Obama's answers.

4) Post on ALL other marijuana forums and email it to friends who care about this issue.

Enjoy watching Obama answer this question and feel good about your political involvement.


Post this everywhere!!!!
 #2 
Old 2008-12-12, 01:38
allcityking allcityking is offline
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Default Re: Voter for marijuana on obama's web site change

I heard flip flop boy is going to go against his statement that he would decriminalize marijuana.
 #3 
Old 2008-12-12, 01:47
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im all for it, but i seriously doubt it will happen
 #4 
Old 2008-12-12, 01:51
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I voted. Thanks for the heads up -I'll pass it along.
 #5 
Old 2008-12-12, 01:52
Vir Novus Vir Novus is offline
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Yeah, this is a good idea but PLEASE, don't vote down other questions just because you want to boost the ranking of your favorite one. I voted for that question too, by the way.
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Old 2008-12-12, 01:52
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I just voted it up....lets see if something worthwhile can come out of this government. Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
 #7 
Old 2008-12-12, 01:58
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Voted - I hope that question wins, but it's got a long way to go in just over a day.
 #8 
Old 2008-12-12, 02:00
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i hope it will unless people still think weeds like crack
 #9 
Old 2008-12-12, 02:00
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There are more important issues to be dealt with than pot.
 #10 
Old 2008-12-12, 02:26
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^^^ I don't believe so. Voted btw.
 #11 
Old 2008-12-12, 02:29
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Default Re: Voter for marijuana on obama's web site change

Quote:
Originally Posted by intravenous
There are more important issues to be dealt with than pot.



This. Dumbass fucking stoners.
 #12 
Old 2008-12-12, 02:33
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does anyone know if this is posted on digg?
 #13 
Old 2008-12-12, 02:35
949884573 949884573 is offline
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Default Re: Voter for marijuana on obama's web site change

More important issues, like the economy? http://www.legalize.org/2005/07/500-economists-cant-be-wrong/
 #14 
Old 2008-12-12, 02:35
949884573 949884573 is offline
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Default Re: Voter for marijuana on obama's web site change

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Originally Posted by ~son~of~random~
does anyone know if this is posted on digg?


They mentioned digg on the shroomery topic.
 #15 
Old 2008-12-12, 04:13
Chupacabre Chupacabre is offline
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Default Re: Voter for marijuana on obama's web site change

Search mudkips in the questions.
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Old 2008-12-12, 04:24
ShroomLove ShroomLove is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chupacabre
Search mudkips in the questions.

I loled....:o
 #17 
Old 2008-12-12, 04:34
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uhh...its winning.
 #18 
Old 2008-12-12, 04:47
949884573 949884573 is offline
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uhh...its winning.

Yeah, it's #1 now. Not many people have viewed this topic sadly. And shroomery is down for me.
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Old 2008-12-12, 04:53
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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"13 states have compassionate use programs for medial Marijuana, yet the federal gov't continues to prosecute sick and dying people. Isn't it time for the federal gov't to step out of the way and let doctors and families decide what is appropriate?"

vote this one up as well...

"The US "War on Drugs" wastes billions every year tracking down and incarcerating non-violent users. What is your position on the legalization of marijuana? How do you feel about treating rather than imprisoning users of harder, addictive drugs?"

another

and voting is over
 #20 
Old 2008-12-12, 05:29
949884573 949884573 is offline
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That was pretty cool. I think it stayed at #1.
 #21 
Old 2008-12-12, 05:35
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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Originally Posted by 949884573
That was pretty cool. I think it stayed at #1.


yea, its archived at the #1 spot...
 #22 
Old 2008-12-12, 05:45
penguinjam penguinjam is offline
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k, voted for the 2 I saw on the front page.
said it was closed, but let me vote, so not sure...
anyways, he said himself that it was one of his last priorities... so...
 #23 
Old 2008-12-12, 06:01
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The people have spoken and the people want pot. That's democracy in action.
 #24 
Old 2008-12-12, 06:19
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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Originally Posted by VinMetal666
The people have spoken and the people want pot. That's democracy in action.


if it was decriminalized to the point of being able to smoke it in public like cigarettes i would go out, buy a large bong and smoke in front of the local police station....

or roll something that looked like it came out of a cheech and chong movie and bring some friends along...
 #25 
Old 2008-12-12, 06:20
Vir Novus Vir Novus is offline
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Heh. A bunch of stoners hijacked a poll that most people didn't know about. It's hardly representative of the people speaking, but let's see how his people respond; they pretty much have to now.
 #26 
Old 2008-12-12, 07:24
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Yeah, there are bigger issues than just pot.

I, for one, wish to own evil assault weapons and get high.
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Old 2008-12-12, 07:39
Aces N 8S Aces N 8S is offline
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if it was decriminalized to the point of being able to smoke it in public like cigarettes i would go out, buy a large bong and smoke in front of the local police station....

or roll something that looked like it came out of a cheech and chong movie and bring some friends along...

Thats how it is in San Francisco. People smoke pot on the steps of city hall all the time, especially on parade/party days.
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Old 2008-12-12, 08:38
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978,322 votes on 10,298 questions from 20,438 people

accuracy.
 #29 
Old 2008-12-12, 08:50
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You assholes just made the entire country look like a bunch of dumbass orange fingered dorrito eating stoners.
 #30 
Old 2008-12-12, 09:47
949884573 949884573 is offline
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Anyone that sees us that way does not matter, their opinions do not matter. It was a legitimate question, people are going to have to stop being afraid to talk about it cause of how they'll look. The message has gone through, Obama understands how we feel already. He made that clear years ago and he agrees. But he may flip flop on the issue because it's so controversial and so many people have money against legalization. It's so taboo.

Either way, the message is through that the people want it to be legal. The people that read his site are the people that got him elected. If there's any point to these questions then he'll listen to the people about marijuana. Why does any of the other shit matter if the people can't have a simple freedom of owning a harmless medicinal plant? We have no say in any of these other matters if they won't even let us use a medicinal plant that's been proven many times to be harmless. So our opinions on any of these other issues wouldn't matter.

It's not about being a stoner and getting high, it's about freedom. The freedom to do it for the various reasons and benefits of doing it. The positive effects far outweigh the negatives and the politicians know this. People are constantly being abused, killed and locked up for using a medicinal herb. It's gotta stop eventually.
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Old 2008-12-12, 09:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stupid noob
You assholes just made the entire country look like a bunch of dumbass orange fingered dorrito eating stoners.


No, the statistics clearly disagree with that proposition.

Sure, weed shouldn't be a very high priority. But on the other hand, it has the potential to do wonders to a struggling economy.
 #32 
Old 2008-12-12, 09:56
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I don't know about you guys, but I sure am impressed with the whole website thing and some of the stuff they are doing, such as this question thing.

On a related topic, do you guys think if the US were to legalize it, that Canada would follow soon after?
 #33 
Old 2008-12-12, 10:05
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I tend to believe Canada would have already decriminalized it further if not for the very dirty looks the US would give them...
 #34 
Old 2008-12-12, 10:18
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You geniuses just made the entire population of liberal internet users look like a bunch of people who happen to oppose the drug war.

Fixed. Confused
 #35 
Old 2008-12-12, 10:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy Bored
I don't know about you guys, but I sure am impressed with the whole website thing and some of the stuff they are doing, such as this question thing.

On a related topic, do you guys think if the US were to legalize it, that Canada would follow soon after?


Yeah, what Theta said. I expect every industrialized nation to legalize cannabis before the U.S. does. We're typically pretty far behind on the whole liberalism curve.
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Old 2008-12-12, 14:28
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Fixed. Confused

I agree. I think it should happen. Honestly, it would make my life way better than throwing me three hundred dollars as a stimulus. Plus, it would stimulate the slumping restaurant businesses.
 #37 
Old 2008-12-12, 17:12
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Damn that looks pretty promising. Obama is impressing me more than i thought.
 #38 
Old 2008-12-12, 17:21
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Originally Posted by ThetaReactor
Yeah, there are bigger issues than just pot.

I, for one, wish to own evil assault weapons and get high.


This!
 #39 
Old 2008-12-12, 18:41
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Since when did the president lead in favour of the people? Last I heard the president leads in favour of the corporations/investors who got him the money to be in office. If Obama does legalize, he'll have to get a new investor base for 2012, or he won't be re-elected. If he legalizes, massive amounts of money will go to his opponents which will "buy" him votes. This is why democracy sucks. We need an actual leader, like Adolf Hitler, who prioritized the people ahead of the investors.
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Old 2008-12-12, 18:44
ShroomLove ShroomLove is offline
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Yeah, what Theta said. I expect every industrialized nation to legalize cannabis before the U.S. does. We're typically pretty far behind on the whole liberalism curve.
I have to agree with this, however suckish it may be... :(

Damn that looks pretty promising. Obama is impressing me more than i thought.
Dont count your chickens just yet, we will see what happens in the next 4 years....it isn't that I don't agree with you. Hell, I voted for him. But I have learned to keep my hopes on the baseline with this government, however promising it may seem. But we will hope for the best! :D
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Old 2008-12-12, 18:51
Vir Novus Vir Novus is offline
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Since when did the president lead in favour of the people? Last I heard the president leads in favour of the corporations/investors who got him the money to be in office. If Obama does legalize, he'll have to get a new investor base for 2012, or he won't be re-elected. If he legalizes, massive amounts of money will go to his opponents which will "buy" him votes. This is why democracy sucks. We need an actual leader, like Adolf Hitler, who prioritized the people ahead of the investors.

That's the beauty of Obama's campaign - it was financed mainly by small donors. I'm really impressed with how Obama's been running his campaign. It'll be nice to have a president we can respect.
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Old 2008-12-12, 21:26
penguinjam penguinjam is offline
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That's the beauty of Obama's campaign - it was financed mainly by small donors. I'm really impressed with how Obama's been running his campaign. It'll be nice to have a president we can respect.

did you know that 9/10 presidential victors outspent their opponents? including obama...

It will be great if obama lives up to his promises, but until he does, there's no reason to believe that he will be any different...

also obama said that even federally legalizing medical marijuana was one of his last priorities. he did, however, say that he was for trying to stop the arrests and busts of medical marijuana patients, vendors, and growers. just that most likely he wasn't going to get to it while he was in office.

also he said he wasn't for completely legalizing it, but he was going to 'rethink' the war on drugs.
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Old 2008-12-12, 21:45
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That's the beauty of Obama's campaign - it was financed mainly by small donors.

You know thats really not true.
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Old 2008-12-12, 22:15
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Maybe we'll find out his response in the next 4 years.
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Old 2008-12-12, 23:59
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also he said he wasn't for completely legalizing it, but he was going to 'rethink' the war on drugs.

That would be the first and most logical step though. You can't just change such a policy to the direct opposite overnight, it has to be done gradually. Hopefully anti-drug budgets will be cut, and freevibe will go out of business.
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Old 2008-12-13, 04:23
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That would be the first and most logical step though. You can't just change such a policy to the direct opposite overnight, it has to be done gradually. Hopefully anti-drug budgets will be cut, and freevibe will go out of business.

yeah, but it might take a while...
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Old 2008-12-13, 08:55
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When do they post the answer, I'm really actually kind of interested to hear their response, I understand that the chances are of it happening are slim as shit. But I'd like to see what he has to say, having openly admitted to smoking pot
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Old 2008-12-13, 09:42
949884573 949884573 is offline
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The website said the day after, "the staff will answer some of the top questions in the next few days"

and it's going to be once a week that people can ask questions.
 #49 
Old 2008-12-13, 17:25
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fuckin' a it worked!
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Old 2008-12-13, 19:30
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I lol'd. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpBzQI_7ez8)

"I inhaled frequently... That was the point."
 #51 
Old 2008-12-14, 00:04
949884573 949884573 is offline
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9421331#Post9421331
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Old 2008-12-14, 05:54
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You assholes just made the entire country look like a bunch of dumbass orange fingered dorrito eating stoners.


what are you talking about?

europe loves weed
 #53 
Old 2008-12-15, 16:53
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Default Re: Voter for marijuana on obama's web site change

what are you talking about?

europe loves weed

Eh ... the European youth does, the older folk not so much. Times are a changing though, the pot debate is sparking up with the Netherlands second guessing their policies of tolerance, while another major allowed a farmer to grow legal pot in order to cripple the criminal production.
 #54 
Old 2008-12-15, 23:26
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So, I just want to know when the fuck Obama is gonna answer these questions.
 #55 
Old 2008-12-15, 23:37
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Originally Posted by Aces High
So, I just want to know when the fuck Obama is gonna answer these questions.


Q: Will you consider legalizing marijuna?

A: I will consider it.

Except it will be shrouded in lawyer-speak.
 #56 
Old 2008-12-15, 23:46
949884573 949884573 is offline
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Don't expect much. I'm only looking at an end to DEA raids on medical cannabis stores. I don't care about full legalization. If they legalized it though, the obsession with cannabis would only grow, and there would probably be companies that have custom breeding and genetic modification. I read an article from 04 that said 3/4 of the US supports the war on drugs.

Anyway it's best if this voting gets attention from the mainstream media. I never expected much from Obama since he's mainstream and I've known that the whole time.


reason.tv has some good drug related videos.
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Old 2008-12-17, 18:04
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http://change.gov/newsroom/entry/open_for_questions_response/
Q: “Will you consider legalizing marijuana so that the government can regulate it, tax it, put age limits on it, and create millions of new jobs and create a billion dollar industry right here in the U.S.?”

A: “President-elect Obama is not in favor of the legalization of marijuana.”
 #58 
Old 2008-12-17, 19:03
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weak, one sentence answer
 #59 
Old 2008-12-17, 19:24
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not surpirsed
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Old 2008-12-17, 19:38
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Obama answered this qustion a long time ago. He dosen't believe in legalization only decriminization of marijuana. He does believe in legalization of medical marijuana though.
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Old 2008-12-17, 20:26
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I thought he was just going to answer it:

"No"

Which was a couple of words less than what was actually said.

But, decriminalization is nice, but it won't eliminate the one thing that makes marijuana bad. The fact that it is illegal, and criminal operations run the marijuana business.
If he manages to decriminalize it, then he better pardon every person in jail for marijuana.
 
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