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Old 2008-12-12, 00:50
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Lightbulb Japanese scientists claim to reconstruct images form brain data

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/features...11TDY01306.htm

Woot so they say the can even image dreams in a short while ...


"In a world first, a research group in Kyoto Japan has succeeded in processing and displaying optically received images directly from the human brain.

One step closer to broadcasting your dreams? The research is due to be published today in the US scientific journal Neuron."
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Old 2008-12-12, 03:05
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One step closer to ghost in the shell. Now all we need is for someone to make robotics/nanites powered by ATP for cyborgs to become realistic.
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Old 2008-12-12, 03:21
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hmm if it could record video it would make for awesome fapping sessions
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Old 2008-12-12, 03:42
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EPIC! I always dreamed the day when this happend.
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Old 2008-12-12, 05:15
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I call bullshit.
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I call bullshit.
I hope it's bullshit. I will die the day people start uploading their dreams/thoughts on youtube

Last edited by the one you don't see; 2008-12-12 at 07:23.
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FINALLY I can remember exactly which chick flashed me at that party...
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Old 2008-12-12, 10:40
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I hope it's bullshit. I will die the day people start uploading their dreams/thoughts on youtube
Thanks for shitting on my utopian cyberpunk dreams
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Old 2008-12-12, 11:28
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I call bullshit.
Here is the article in the jouranl Neuron.

You should buy it then post it so we can see if it is
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Here is the article in the jouranl Neuron.

You should buy it then post it so we can see if it is
I don't give a shit who write it.

I refuse to believe it until I see it in real time. It's just way too fucking complex for todays science, atleast to my(Limited) knowledge.
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Old 2008-12-12, 12:40
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I doubt they'll have the capabilities to process it in real time, not yet anyway.

The fact that it's published in a scientific journal shows that it's not bullshit though.

I want to read the article, however, to see what the limitations are exactly.

but fuck paying $30 or whatever it is to find out.
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Old 2008-12-12, 12:49
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I doubt they'll have the capabilities to process it in real time, not yet anyway.

The fact that it's published in a scientific journal shows that it's not bullshit though.

I want to read the article, however, to see what the limitations are exactly.

but fuck paying $30 or whatever it is to find out.
I'll get my girlfriend - who has access to journals through our university, more specifically, through the psychology department - to read it. If she thinks it's credible, I'll post screen caps of the important shit.
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Old 2008-12-12, 14:10
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I'll get my girlfriend - who has access to journals through our university, more specifically, through the psychology department - to read it. If she thinks it's credible, I'll post screen caps of the important shit.
She sounds HOT.
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Old 2008-12-12, 14:18
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She sounds HOT.
Well, I don't know how you got that from what I said; but yes, yes she is.
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Old 2008-12-12, 14:21
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Well, I don't know how you got that from what I said; but yes, yes she is.
I fucking KNEW it!
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Old 2008-12-12, 16:01
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I fucking KNEW it!
Me and ma gf: http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amyandisz8.jpg

Oh, and she couldn't access the journal. I think it's a little too new. Possibly next year?
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Old 2008-12-12, 16:17
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Me and ma gf: http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amyandisz8.jpg

Oh, and she couldn't access the journal. I think it's a little too new. Possibly next year?
Niccccce...sucks about that journal though, it's some interesting shit.
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Old 2008-12-12, 16:53
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I hope it's bullshit. I will die the day people start uploading their dreams/thoughts on youtube.
Omfg!!! NO waaay!!
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Old 2008-12-12, 18:15
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she couldn't access the journal. I think it's a little too new. Possibly next year?
Give it a few weeks. It'll be in the uni library maybe.

I'd check my uni's library, but term just finished, so nah. haha
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Old 2008-12-12, 18:38
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Niccccce...sucks about that journal though, it's some interesting shit.
Oh, she can get access to it now.

Here's the real deal:

"We have shown that contrast defined arbitrary visual images can be reconstructed from fMRI signals of the human visual cortex on a single trial basis."*

All they did was recreate incredibly simple images - black and white, simplistic shapes - from data taken from someone's brain on an MRI scan. Furthermore, it was in an incredibly controlled setting, so one can't just do this in any environment. It's not nearly as 'futuristic' as one might initially think.

Here's a picture from the journal, showing the shapes that were recorded:
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1756/contrastpa3.jpg

They will definitely not, however, be able to 'capture' people's dreams anytime soon.

Still, this is an amazing find with countless hours of research involved. This could develop into something truly incredible.

*first sentence from the journal.

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Old 2008-12-12, 18:46
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Oh, she can get access to it now.

Here's the real deal:

"We have shown that contrast defined arbitrary visual images can be reconstructed from fMRI signals of the human visual cortex on a single trial basis."*

All they did was recreate incredibly simple images - black and white, simplistic shapes - from data taken from someone's brain on an MRI scan. Furthermore, it was in an incredibly controlled setting, so one can't just do this in any environment. It's not nearly as 'futuristic' one might initially think.

Here's a picture from the journal, showing the shapes that were recorded:
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1756/contrastpa3.jpg

They will definitely not, however, be able to 'capture' people dreams anytime soon.

Still, this is an amazing find with countless hours of research involved. This could develop into something truly incredible.

*first sentence from the journal.
Yeah that's still pretty promising.
I hope I'm still around when we're able to play dream-counterstrike with other people. That'd be fucking sweet.
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Old 2008-12-12, 20:23
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*first sentence from the journal.
That's the first sentence from the discussion section actually . It must have been fucking expensive to do... fMRI (functional magnetic resonance imaging) scans need expensive equipment. These participants had to lay in a machine like this http://www.dundee.ac.uk/medther/taye...es/mriscnr.jpg and stare at the images on a screen above them.
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Give it 20 years and lots of funding, and recording dreams may be possible.

There's a lot of research into helping the blind to see and quadrapedrics move mouse cursors using implanted brain sensors, combining both of these... who knows.
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