Forget all the doomsday shit, this is the actual lowdown.

http://www.13moon.com/prophecy%20page.htm

That's a helluva lot of reading for 8:45am..

Where are you? Japan?


Fuckin read it man. It will "spark your interest".

England.


I prefer to 'get the jist of it' from the conversation in this thread.

When it happens.

The jist is we are at the end of our evolutionary cycle. In or around 2012, those who have the understanding to, will move into the next density of reality.

I suggest you go out and get the "jist" of this understanding.

It's a well known fact that we have stopped evolving..

EDIT: We stop evolving faster as our technology evolves.

So whats the tl/dr version?

That's not true:


http://www.lawofone.info

Wow, For a crack head web site.. This seems like theres facts behind the words... Im saying Thumbs up. (Take the time to read it... worth the read)

Be like this person.

Undoubtedly absolute bollocks.

People who believe this shit should be shot for lack of productivity.

Look deeper into the subject(s) before judging.

I think there's great potential in human beings to be in a different state of consciousness, collectively. A wiser and more connected state of being. Of course, it doesn't happen spontaneously. All I know is me as well as others on this board have had many experiences that don't fit into something anyone can explain, and in a way kind of starts to alienate you from most people, because you just can't be like you used to be once something really mind shattering happens to you.

I'm not saying I believe something will happen in 2012 specifically, but I will say this: There is unconscious, and completely conscious. Asleep, and completely awake. When people have developed the point of their highest awareness, the point to be completely awake and aware, without hindrances in their mind or body, they too will see there is much great potential in people to be more than they know, and that the real suffering of the human race is unconsciousness and being driven around purely by necessity and habits (work, school, thoughts, repeated emotions with repeated results). There will never be any amount of money or doctrine or status in society that will "fix" us because those aren't really ways of evolving, just ways of keeping the body alive, which isn't the highest possibility, to have sex and money and everything taken care of. The real ignorance of the human race is that most of us believe that's it, because it's the highest we've experienced. I myself truly feel deep down we all have much more to learn and life isn't meant to be this painful burden that so many of us accept it as.

I don't think the question is will "we" get there, but will the individual themselves decide to get there, and how will they, and how will they show others...
That's how I feel on any subject of evolution/human growth. It's all about how conscious you are. The body has all it needs, the society provides everything you can imagine, but where is the deepest source of unhappiness? What really hinders our growth and freedom?

That doesn't mean anything. There is NO proof on that website for what they're claiming. Stop being so impressionable and grow up.

Evolution doesn't stop. Even if a population got to a point where there were no more ways of possible biological optimization, the environment would still be changing.

If it's proof you're looking for, you'll have to look deeper than just that website.


Stop being so close minded and learn something valueable.

You're too vague. This is typical of impressionable people who subscribe to doomsday prophesies and the like. Don't avoid my point about proof either; remember, kiddo, that the burden of proof lies on those who make the claims.

Furthermore, this goes without saying, history has taught us - indisputably - that all doomsday prophesies evidently turn out to be fallacies.

Reason and logic are the antithesis of closed-mindedness. Have a think about that, and then kindly shove your face into a meat grinder.

Rather than labeling today's date as:
"Thursday, December 22, AD two-thousand-and-five,"

Rather then labeling this as new, I label it as Ye Olde.

I think that most people will just crack on with it and make the money they need to survive, then reproduce and die, and the cycle will continue.

The only people who are going to buy into this kind of thing is those that have the money to sit around all day and are bored, rather than unhappy.

These shiftings of the Earth's body allow us to release unwanted baggage - mental, physical and emotional patterns, conditioning, beliefs, attitudes, and programming. Simultaneously, that which we think or desire is becoming actualized more and more swiftly.

Our Divinity is presenting itself to be claimed. How to experience this reality consciously? Where-ever one looks, the universal answer points to one's own body, one's own mental attitude, the energy of one's own heart, one's own living breath as the beginning place of orientation to feel one's unique connection to and expression

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Amazing read. Thanks.

We should be looking to the above attitudes to make changes.

I have nothing to prove to you. I merely presented you with an idea. It is not up to me to prove it to you, you must prove it to yourself.


I will give you this link again, as it shares the most profound idea known to man. Whether you choose to accept this knowledge or not, is up to you. I would sincerely recommend it.

http://www.lawofone.info


edit: I just noticed you called this a "doomsday prophecy". This tells me you missed the point entirely. Look closer my friend.

ate, I fucking love you.

Read it, pretty much like most of the shit about 2012 that's floating in the toilet bowl of the internet.

Wait, everything's going to have more mass in a smaller volume? WHY WASN'T I TOLD?

Come 2012 I'll be wandering the blue ridge mountains with a sword and an sks.

I like the idea of time as being the 4th dimension. It's true, just because we can't measure it doesn't mean it's not there. Good stuff, worth the read.

I understand that you're joking, but you should learn about these "densities".

They affect you very deeply...

I remember being made fun of because I mentioned that there was an asteroid that came close to earth and nearly hit by some of my ex-peers (I forget the name but it was a few months back) yet they all acceped this shit without question.

Oh dear a scientifically proven asteroid with a calculated path that may come close to us and potentially hit us? Or some batshit extinct civilization that called 'doomsday'? Which one do I believe? How about the later!!! -_-

You are very resentful.

Is this that Mayan fractals shit? Or some other shit? Shit?

EDIT: Just read it. It is indeed that Mayan fractals shit. And not some other shit. Shit.

What the hell are those? Like how they divide the ages into twelve parts then four subparts or some shit?

i prefer to continue reading the book by Terrence McKenna that i'm currently reading... Anybody here heard of him? if not, you should, he talks a lot about this type of stuff... cept he's fun to read...

Man I don't understand why it matters the end of our calendar doesn't mean the end of the world is coming like come on. They are like Mexicans and the last thing Mexicans know how to do is predict the future

Don't worry everyone, Tiger Paw has been hunting these forests he will make another clock

I THEORIZE:

OP is
- between the ages of 15 and 17.
- American/British.
- formerly Christian OR born into a Christian home/environment.
- interested in spirituality.
- not widely read on scientific literature.
- a fan of Tool.
- a romanticist.
- a damn, dirty ape.

Also, the site is total bullshit. The entire 2012 issue just shows supreme stupidity when it comes to understanding the Mayan calender. They label days as Kin. 20 Kin is called a Winal. 18 Winal (360 days) is a Tun. 20 Tun (roughly 20 years) is a K'atun. 20 K'atun (roughly 400 years) is a B'ak'tun. The way these would be written out is like this: (b'ak'tun number).(k'atun number).(tun number).(winal number).(kin number). At the end of the 13th b'ak'tun (or 12.19.19.17.19), you reach the end of a cycle. The movement from that to 0.0.0.0.0 is what will happen on December 12. However, this misses just how important the number 13 is on the Long Count calender (an importance derived from their previous use of a lunar calender). The real length of a Long Count calender? 0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0, or 13 digits. Yes, when those last five roll over, it is a cycle, but the calender is more concerned about the large cycle. By the way, each of those digits past the fifth goes up to 13. So, theoretically, this renders the calender maxing out at 12.12.12.12.12.12.12.12.12.12.19.19.17.19. I believe 2012 will roll over that sixth digit to a 5 or 6. The rest are still zeros. They only used those last five because of practicality, similar to how we don't say it's the year 00000000000002008.

My girlfriend studied cultural anthropology for three years at a private university with a focus in Central American cultures. My shit is so legit I might have to quit a little bit to get it back down to manageable, nonquitting levels.

EDIT: Before anyone calls me out on it, yes, I know that the last five digits of the Long Count calender have a couple different variations of number, but b'ak'tun still max at 13.

Holy linkage, Batman!

What?

Complete and utter bullcrap

Technology has always been the hallmark of man. Even the Mayan wouldn't have been able to calculate the "cycles" without technology. It's ironic that you use the most technologically advanced medium to try to convince people that our way of life is wrong and bad. Think about for a moment. The computer you are using right now was designed, manufactured and sold. Hundreds of people were necessary for building, marketing and distributing your computer. We all need technology.

And as for time and the clock as being an "evil plague upon humanity". Imagine a world where people are always late and we have no fucking idea how to organise different task because we have no clue what time it is. The clock, like all inventions, was created out of necessity and desire.

I would rather be inside a warm house, sitting on a sofa, and then outside living like a savage but supposedly being "one with nature". It's about - 5 Fahrenheit outside right now with about 2 feet of snow. I would rather live up to 80 or 90 with the help of technology instead of dying at 25-35 because I am "one with nature". Nature started the war with humanity and now it wants out because it's loosing? The only thing we really need to learn is better stewardship concerning our natural resources while developing better sustainable practices. Not metaphysical crap that means nothing, does nothing and is so vague that is can be interpreted any way we want.

If you want to change things be proactive and get out there. The different "densities" won't do shit to help your life. As Voltaire said "the only way to be truly happy is to work without thinking" and he was absolutely right. The guy how wrote that article really had too much time on his hands...

The only thing that will happen on 2012 is that all those doomsayers and/or false prophets will be wrong...

That sounds about right!
Great post! I also studied cultural anthropology. I'm now finishing a masters in business administration. Can't be a millionaire by staying in anthropology!

There's a good reason the Mayans aren't about anymore.

Who gives a shit.