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Old 2008-12-10, 22:52
redjoker redjoker is offline
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Default Sheriff refusing to follow orders regarding evictions.

Source: http://www.wlwt.com/cnn-news/18243370/detail.html

Do you think this is a reasonable request? Do you think this is just? I read some case a long time ago that said police don't have to protect us. It's a personal choice. I think his intentions are honorable at least. Do you think this is acceptable in what is supposedly a capitalist country?
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Old 2008-12-10, 23:25
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Alameda, CA
Default Re: Sheriff refusing to follow orders regarding evictions.

A few weeks ago another sheriff did something like this. The owner of an apartment building couldn't keep up with the payments. The sheriff was instructed to evict all of the tenants of the building, but didn't. He felt it was wrong to evict the tenants just because the owner couldn't pay.

I normally despise cops because I've grown up seeing them abuse their powers. But stories like this keeps me from generalizing that all cops are bad.
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Old 2008-12-11, 12:29
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Default Re: Sheriff refusing to follow orders regarding evictions.

Evicting people makes very little sense anyway. There should be some mechanism for people to give up on the mortgage and immediately start renting the place. Save the eviction bullshit.
Yes they can't keep up with their payments, and the asset is hopelessly de-valued, but there's probably some potential to pay and a pittance on rent beats an empty house that no one's going to buy.
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Old 2008-12-11, 13:47
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water (blood)
Default Re: Sheriff refusing to follow orders regarding evictions.

I wish this was the USSR.
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Old 2008-12-12, 18:14
philthemn philthemn is offline
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Default Re: Sheriff refusing to follow orders regarding evictions.

In this particular case the sheriff was acting honourably, but this does not mean it is acceptable for a police officer to ignore the rule of law. To argue that this case is acceptable based on our sense of morality gives equal justification to those who hold views we may dispise to also ignore the law and act as they wish.
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Old 2008-12-12, 21:46
ductape ductape is offline
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Default Re: Sheriff refusing to follow orders regarding evictions.

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Originally Posted by philthemn
In this particular case the sheriff was acting honourably, but this does not mean it is acceptable for a police officer to ignore the rule of law. To argue that this case is acceptable based on our sense of morality gives equal justification to those who hold views we may dispise to also ignore the law and act as they wish.


it's actually not based on morals.

He is only doing it because he doesnt want his deputies to have to deal with a dead, homeless person.
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Old 2008-12-13, 20:56
philthemn philthemn is offline
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Default Re: Sheriff refusing to follow orders regarding evictions.

it's actually not based on morals.

He is only doing it because he doesnt want his deputies to have to deal with a dead, homeless person.

Well in that case, it's even less acceptable.
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Old 2008-12-14, 19:03
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Default Re: Sheriff refusing to follow orders regarding evictions.

He's doing the right thing, good for him.
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Old 2008-12-15, 04:29
Spiphel Rike Spiphel Rike is offline
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Default Re: Sheriff refusing to follow orders regarding evictions.

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Originally Posted by philthemn
In this particular case the sheriff was acting honourably, but this does not mean it is acceptable for a police officer to ignore the rule of law. To argue that this case is acceptable based on our sense of morality gives equal justification to those who hold views we may dispise to also ignore the law and act as they wish.


There are some really stupid laws around, and if the coppers choose to ignore those (especially publicly) then that's just great.
 
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