I'm wondering if Totse is slightly educated and experienced when it comes to MDMA. I'm not talking about those bitch pills you paid $15 a hit for that are loaded with caffeine. I'm talking about either solo-MDMA pills or molly crystal.

Methamphetamine, a notorious upper, works on dopamine and nor/epinephrine. These are fight/flight drugs. Meth, adderall and ritalin, they make you go up.

MDMA works on seratonin, which is known for its effects on REGULATING SLEEP, YOU FUCKING MORONS. All dopamine action that occurs from MDMA is minute and is indirect. As in MDMA itself doesn't trigger it, the release of seratonin triggers it. And when you take absorbic acid (vitamen C is necessary for breaking down dopamine) and other anti oxidants/supplements almost no, or none at all (depending on your species), dopamine is released, period. If you are taking good pills you should feel the extream relaxing rolling intoxication of euphoria and empathy. You should on edge, jittery or any of that bullshit. If you are, you are getting your shit cut with caffeine, pussy.

Cocaine works on both dopamine and seratonin, but more so on dopamine. Have you noticed with good cocaine your body is hyped up and tweaky, but your mind feels relaxed and intoxicated? Kind of like MDMA but not really?



Lets see all of the faggots that come in here and defend MDMA as an upper.

was there really a point in calling everybody pussies faggots and morons before anyone even said anything about it. not everybody here is as dumb as you look.

but mdma is amphetamine???

just kidding.

P.S. MDMA also releases nonrepinephrine and dopamine.
P.S.S. I don't really understand your argument.

but mdma is amphetamine???

just kidding.

P.S. MDMA also releases nonrepinephrine and dopamine.
P.S.S. I don't really understand your argument.

They indirectly release it you stupid cunt.

No fucking shit, but just because MDMA only directly effects serotonin, doesn't make it any less of a stimulant. I'm not going to sit here and argue with you though. No sense in trying to ram my head into the brick wall that is your brain.

Why the fuck do you even still bother posting? I thought you stopped like a year ago, what's with the rebuttal?

They indirectly release it you stupid cunt.

They inderectly release serotonin too you fuckhead, are you qualifiedly in anything to do with neurological science?

Your intentions were good, but the execution laughable.

Yeah I would agree that it is less of a stimulant than people make it out to be. But it definitely can have a slightly stimulating affect at the peak. Though, yes it pales incomparison to any other upper I know in actually getting you up and about, tweaked.

MDMA is far superior drug than cocaine, but we don't need to get into that. This thread blows and you have the maturity of a ten year old who has just been taught all the swear words his older 13 year old buddies know. Grow up man, you've been at your stupidity for too fucking long. Months, Years, seriously, what is it now?

Hey nigger pope how the fuck can you insult anyone for a suppossed lack of intelligence. You're the 12 year old who brags about going to jail and using cocaine/meth/whatever. Not only that you flame people when asking advice.

Well done nigger pope you live up to your name.

first, due to it's affinity for SERT's, which recycle and store serotonin from the synapse, mdma inhibits serotonin reuptake and reverses the transporter's action, flooding the synapse with serotonin. (the part you somewhat half-assidly covered)

mdma also triggers the release of acetylcholine, norepinephrine and dopamine. that plays an important role in mdma's effects.

mdma acts directly on a2-adrenergic receptors.

furthermore, mdma is classified as an amphetamine and a stimulant.

and a good part of the whole empathy/trust thing is from the release of oxytocin caused by indirect stimulation of 5-HT1A receptors.

and if mdma's action was solely from serotonin, it would be significantly less recreational.

don't really have time to type up a big long thing, but you get the idea. right?

We've all seen your posts in Lap Tips. Don't come in here acting like you actually know something about science.

we've all seen your posts in lap tips. Don't come in here acting like you actually know something about science.

qfmft.

You guys may or may not have gotten trolled

i don't really regard MDMA as a stimulant, but if you gotta task to do and your rolling you should be able to do it. fuck, nothing makes you love cleaning your house like MDMA..

nothing makes you love everything like MDMA..

the lights....they're so....VIVID!!

I do.

sounds like blackpope did molly over the weekend and became an expert

good for you, nigger

You are full of shit, I might not count MDMA as an uppper on the scale of coke or amphetamine but it sure as fuck is a stimulant.

I have no idea what the fuck you think your on about but MDMA gives you energy and as long as you dont over do it then it has the capability to keep you up dancing all night like no downer ever could. And before you say iv probably taken pills cut with speed/caffene I'm talking pure clean crystal MDMA, I can sleep on that shit whilst full blown rolling if I ever wanted to.

3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine

"Amphetamine, and related drugs such as methamphetamine are a group of drugs that act by increasing levels of norepinephrine, serotonin, and dopamine in the brain.[3] It includes prescription CNS drugs commonly used to treat attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) in adults and children. It is also used to treat symptoms of traumatic brain injury and the daytime drowsiness symptoms of narcolepsy and chronic fatigue syndrome. Initially it was more popularly used to diminish the appetite and to control weight."

LOL what an ignorant faggot you are.

I'm not going to sit here and argue with you though. No sense in trying to ram my head into the brick wall that is your brain.

/thread

Nice one captain obvious!

Anyone who knows anything on this board knows that MDMA is a psychedelic and not a fucking upper.

There's so many things wrong with this statement, but I'm just gonna leave this here...

There's so many things wrong with this statement, but I'm just gonna leave this here...

Care to enlighten me?

Care to enlighten me?

Oh I'm just being a dick man sorry, I'm really tired, drove like 800km tonight and I have to go try con a doctor in a few hours..

I just meant the wording was a bit bizzare. MDMA definitely DOES have a stimulant effect but I wouldn't be keen to "crank on the MDMA" like on dexamps, or meth.

It's also not /quite/ a psych, imo... But yeah I'm tired.
My bad.

melatonin is what regulates sleep and serotonin is converted to melatonin. Serotonin keeps you up it nodesnt make you sleep. This is why serotonin is produced during the ldaytime hours when it is light out and melatonin is produced when it is dark.
God you are a fucking moron black pope. do us all a favor and sTFU.
www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma.shtml
"Euphoric Empathogen; Stimulant; Phenethylamine" go spread your bullshit somewhere else.

Just stfu please before you stop embarrassing your self even more you fucking idiot. SERATONIN IS TEH REGULATROZ OF SLEEP LWAWLZ. You learned a couple things or two about neuropharmacology and you think your fucking Alexander Shulgin here. MDMA is an upper you stupid ignorant piece of shit, maybe if you tried it more you would notice.

i think he is trolling to get reactions out of us.

At the risk of sounding like I'm just jumping on the bandwagon here...

The Black Pope is an idiot. An idiot troll. An idiot troll who's very dedicated to looking like even more of an idiot than anyone could conceivably be in reality. Don't feed the troll.

P.S. Nigger Pope is, in fact, a nigger.

"Amphetamine, and related drugs such as methamphetamine are a group of drugs that act by increasing levels of norepinephrine, serotonin, and dopamine in the brain. It is... used to treat symptoms of traumatic brain injury and the daytime drowsiness symptoms of narcolepsy and chronic fatigue syndrome.

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal157.shtml

"But I gots sum chronic fatigue!!!!"

:D

well it's definitely not a fkking sedative that's for sure

*face palm* I'm not even touching this one, niggerpope I'm fucking disgusted

when you take absorbic acid and other anti oxidants/supplements almost no, or none at all dopamine is released, period.

So you agree that MDMA by itself stimulates the release of dopamine. What was your point again?

Perhaps if you had said "How many of you pussies still think MDMA when combined with an antioxidant is an upper?" you may have said something useful, but probably not.