Sorry for all these suboxone threads, but the only pharm i take is amps...i like the feeling, but im add/adhd anyway (less of both as i get older, esp. less adhd, i find my inability to naturally focus extremely frustrating sometimes). prescribed ritalin and concerta when younger, both made me feel like shit. stopped caring to get addies after that/didn't realize their total importance and potential at that point.

Well, the other night I was on a 20 mg short acting addy. about an hour later i accidentally (refer to threads a couple pages back) took 4 mgs of suboxone. i dont fuck with downers or opiates AT ALL. needless to say i was fucked up for about two days. that night my heart was on a roller coaster ride. had a couple wierd episodes that night when i was trying to fall asleep. dont really want to think about it.


anyway, waited about 24 hrs before taking another addy dose. been taking addies on previous schedule since. i plan on stopping use for a day or two at the end of the week, but it is that time of the semester...

ANYWAY,


I'm scared now because of all these suboxone threads I read. LIke I said, I dont know shit about pharms except addies. took benzos on occasion but not really anymore. I dont take downers or anything. I know nothing about this shit, and every other thread is about potentially oding on it or whatever. It seems that the general consensus is to start with 2mg or even 1mg increments of the shit. i was already addied up, keep in mind, though again i have somewhat of a tolerance. i have no tolerance to bupes. i couldve even been 4.5-5mg. I did feel shitty that night, of course I puked all night until I passed out. When I woke up the next day I puked once, then was able to eat and function, etc, but still felt it. Feel fine now, but I'll never take them again. I feel like even though the adderall combo may have added unnecessary heart strain, it couldve potentially been what kept it up...anyway I would like to hear your comments on this. Again, I apologize for all the threads but I just need somewhat peace of mind. I will always remember this mistake, and I'm usually extremely good about monitoring closely what I take. This big slip up almost fucked me good, and has me in a surreal state as a result. Of course I'm scared, but I'm still in shock over the whole thing don't really know how to consider it. I think it would've been one thing if I had planned on it, but the fact that it was accidental and unexpected added a whole new perspective on the experience. Anyway, I'll stop rambling in my stoned/semiamped stupor. Peace.

You are worrying way too much. You're gonna be fine. Dexedrine and opiates used to be a favorite combo of mine.

wow that was difficult to read before caffiene fired up thy brain...

yea, you acute OD'd on bupe, yea you did too much, yea you speedballed and that strains the heart. you almost answered all your own questions...

So I guess what I want to know is, besides letting that happen again, is there anything I should do to counter the previous episode? Vitamins? Anything I should be paying attention to?

I take 16mg/suboxone a day, as well as a hefty dose of benzos. Occaisonally when I need to get something done or just want to kill a bunch of time I'll take some addies or ritalin, dexedrine is the best but hard to come by...

Anyway, it's perfectly safe to mix any combination of these drugs as long as you stay within reasonable doses. It sounds to me like you were just experiencing the anxiety induced amphetamine effects while acutely overdosing on sub, which is uncomfortable, I know. Your heart is fine. I know several people prescribed to benzos and amphetamines, because benzos simply take the edge of speed. It really is a safe combo, ask any doctor or just hit up google. It's equally safe to mix them with opiates. In fact, I know someone who is prescribed suboxone and adderall, as well as serequel (serequel is a HORRIBLE drug, it's a pathetic excuse for a benzo alternative, btw) for sleep.

In the future, start with 1-2mg of bup, wait an hour AT LEAST!!! before you take anymore, and you'll find that amphetamines and opiates have quite a nice synergy when used correctly.

it is VERY hard to overdose(fatally) on bupe.

Dude, chill out. everyone told you that you're fine in your original thread. Everyone told you that you're fine in all the other threads you asked this in. Guess what that means?

YOU'RE FINE!!!

Now stop asking the same fucking question over and over again. This was like 3 days ago that you took that shit. You're not going to die of an overdose 3 days after dosing. Just let it go.

Aight, aight...

how to avoid a rehash of this? don't take 4mgs of bupe and dose your amps. its not that difficult. infact, avoid bupe, your not addicted to opiods so you really have no reason trying to get high of the shit, its not good at that anyway...

get some better opiates, like oxycodone, to mix with your amps...

The abuse rates of bupe are really high in places like france where there is short supply of h. It actually took over the h market. And I always thought that for the non dependant and opiate naive it does get them high.

Someone with no tolerance should only need .5mgs to 1 mg.

The abuse rates of bupe are really high in places like france where there is short supply of h. It actually took over the h market. And I always thought that for the non dependant and opiate naive it does get them high.

Someone with no tolerance should only need .5mgs to 1 mg.

Oh no, it will get you high.

Fuck I got high off that stuff with a monster OC tolerance.

I had to snort 32mg (4 subs), and it was probably THE most unpleasant thing I have ever had to snort, but I caught a buzz for sure.

It just wasn't nearly as good as a nice OC high.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I was fucked. Pinpoint pupils, decent euphoria...something was just missing though.

Noone would choose it over OC or dope, that's for DAMN sure.

Oh no, it will get you high.

Fuck I got high off that stuff with a monster OC tolerance.

I had to snort 32mg (4 subs), and it was probably THE most unpleasant thing I have ever had to snort, but I caught a buzz for sure.

It just wasn't nearly as good as a nice OC high.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I was fucked. Pinpoint pupils, decent euphoria...something was just missing though.

Noone would choose it over OC or dope, that's for DAMN sure.

holy shit, 32mg?

that's a shitload...

I only needed 2mg.. with oxy tolerance

you get nausea?

Oh no, it will get you high.

Fuck I got high off that stuff with a monster OC tolerance.

I had to snort 32mg (4 subs), and it was probably THE most unpleasant thing I have ever had to snort, but I caught a buzz for sure.

It just wasn't nearly as good as a nice OC high.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I was fucked. Pinpoint pupils, decent euphoria...something was just missing though.

Noone would choose it over OC or dope, that's for DAMN sure.

man with bupe less is better. at 32 mgs it will have more antagonistic effects. under 8mg is more agonistic. Shit i snort 1-2mgs and it is unpleasant.

holy shit, 32mg?

that's a shitload...

I only needed 2mg.. with oxy tolerance

you get nausea?

No, I did not actually. But I haven't been nauseas from ANY opiates in years, (well, maybe a year and a half or so :P).

I did have a bit of benadryl and a glass of red wine with it as well as a little pot, so my stomach was fully reinforced. :D

man with bupe less is better. at 32 mgs it will have more antagonistic effects. under 8mg is more agonistic. Shit i snort 1-2mgs and it is unpleasant.

Actually, 32 mg is apparently pretty much where the ceiling effect of bupe peaks out. Or maybe it was 35mg or something, idk.

Read an article on it not too long ago.

4 8mg Suboxone is the max dose given to people because apparently after that the bupe won't agonize the receptors any more than it would with 32mg.

EDIT: And I had a fucking monster tolerance, it took 320mg oxy plus some hydromorphone on top of that to make me really feel good, so do NOT try this at home kids.

No, I did not actually. But I haven't been nauseas from ANY opiates in years, (well, maybe a year and a half or so :P).

I did have a bit of benadryl and a glass of red wine with it as well as a little pot, so my stomach was fully reinforced. :D



Actually, 32 mg is apparently pretty much where the ceiling effect of bupe peaks out. Or maybe it was 35mg or something, idk.

Read an article on it not too long ago.

4 8mg Suboxone is the max dose given to people because apparently after that the bupe won't agonize the receptors any more than it would with 32mg.

EDIT: And I had a fucking monster tolerance, it took 320mg oxy plus some hydromorphone on top of that to make me really feel good
No but at higher doses above 8 and below the ceiling the agonistic effects are more pronounced. You never heard less is better with bupe? But yeah the monster tolerance may have required a high dose anyway. And you probably could have done fine with 24mgs. also i heard the 32mg was a little high for the ceiling and it should actually be more close to 24mgs.

No but at higher doses above 8 and below the ceiling the agonistic effects are more pronounced. You never heard less is better with bupe? But yeah the monster tolerance may have required a high dose anyway. And you probably could have done fine with 24mgs. also i heard the 32mg was a little high for the ceiling and it should actually be more close to 24mgs.


Hmm, well I did try 16mg at first, and that really didn't seem to have much effect on me so I snorted 2 more. (which was such ridiculous SEARING PAIN. Seriously, my nose hurt for at least a half hour afterwards. )


So you may be right that 24mg would have worked out better, I honestly never tried that. All I know is I was feeling pretty good. ^_^