Which is your favorite/which would you recommend?
I have been sober for like 3 months but my wife and I want to do a few things before we are done.
(if it's important at all, i used to do cocaine and opiates... i know, two completely different worlds, hah)
I was really looking into ayahuasca or mescaline, but I was wondering what you, the good peoples of &T thought about it.

that depends on what you can get, of course

for me, as far as introspection goes, I prefer mushrooms and dmt.

well ayahuasca has DMT in it, so i guess that's relative =p

I was thinking mushrooms, but I wanted something that was a bit more exotic I think..

Just to have a tale to tell :)

well ayahuasca has DMT in it, so i guess that's relative =p

I was thinking mushrooms, but I wanted something that was a bit more exotic I think..

Just to have a tale to tell :)

yes, but ayahuasca also has beta-carbolines in it (harmala alkaloids)

not that that's a bad thing though...

exotic? just cause shrooms aren't 'exotic' doesn't mean you won't have a powerful introspective trip...

but maybe mescaline?

or RC's?

yes, but ayahuasca also has beta-carbolines in it (harmala alkaloids)

not that that's a bad thing though...

exotic? just cause shrooms aren't 'exotic' doesn't mean you won't have a powerful introspective trip...

but maybe mescaline?

or RC's?

True. I dunno, I've done shrooms before and it was during my 'let's just get fucked up!' phase as opposed to an introspective / betterment phase (now) so things may be different..

True. I dunno, I've done shrooms before and it was during my 'let's just get fucked up!' phase as opposed to an introspective / betterment phase (now) so things may be different..

glad you've passed that phase:)

I've never really thought of psychs as 'let's get fucked up' kinds of drugs though...

as a result, my experiences are most likely much different...

I would give them another try though - you won't be disappointed...

glad you've passed that phase:)

I've never really thought of psychs as 'let's get fucked up' kinds of drugs though...

as a result, my experiences are most likely much different...

I would give them another try though - you won't be disappointed...

Well I was under the impression that I could hit some 'unknown' level of fucked up, so I would keep adding shit to the mix (shrooms, coke, weed, ex, etc)

I wasn't into drugs for the spiritual / self awakening aspect, I was into them to merely get as fucked up as humanly possible. Then I became an addict, so I was a slave to my own vices. It was fuckin lame.

But now I am substance free (for the past few months) but I wanna get a few things accomplished before I decide to be done altogether- however, I think a psych experiment every few months shouldn't be an issue

Regardless- so probably just some shrooms would be sufficent? I have been a long time reader on totse, but I haven't seen any threads on the differences in trip/high with the different species of mushrooms- is there any or are they all relatively the same?

Not to say that I can get whatever I want, but if I can get a hold of something spectacular, why not do so, amirite?

glad to hear you're clean..

but psychs won't get you dirty:)
so to speak..

psych 'experiments' every month or two or so could be very beneficial.

as far as different species go, there is a bit of controversy surrounding that.

now, cubes are cubes, however there are differences in potency.

one of the most potent mushrooms are psilocybe azurescens. these contain baeocystin as well as psilocin and psilocybin. they contain up to 1.8% psilocybin, 0.5% psilocin, and 0.4% baeocystin.

another potent mushroom is panaeolus cyanescens. these contain psilocybin, serotonin, and urea. (psilocybin being the psychoactive portion)

so... some people say they are pretty much the same, other people, including expirienced mushroom growers and trippers, say that different species produce different highs. some say that pan cyans produce a much cleaner high, and therefore that is their favorite.

but it all depends on the person. I can't really say if you would notice a difference, and if you did, which would be best. that is for you to decide.

Ahh thank you. I was unaware of that- but good to know.

Yeah, I think that every few months a psychedelic experiment would help me out- as long as i stick to fairly-natural things (which is why i'm kind of mehh to RC's / LSD and whatnot- if it grows in the ground... if you know what i mean).

Regardless- so probably just some shrooms would be sufficent? I have been a long time reader on totse, but I haven't seen any threads on the differences in trip/high with the different species of mushrooms- is there any or are they all relatively the same?

Basically all psychadelic mushrooms fall into one of two categories: those containing psilocybin, and amanita muscarias.

Amanita muscarias are those ones you usually see drawn in children's books. They're legal. But they are not a very enjoyable high and, from what i've heard, mostly just cause nausea and disorientation

What you want is mushrooms that contain psilocybin. There are several species of these and some people contend that different strains have distinctly different trips. i personally think that this is just placebo effect, but a lot of the people who disagree with me know way more about shrooms that I do, so i could very well be wrong. If anything i would liken the differences between mushroom types to the idfferences between different strains of weed.

Really though, unless you want to take the time and effort to grow your own, you're basially stuck with whatever type you friendly neighborhood drug dealer has anyway.

Basically all psychadelic mushrooms fall into one of two categories: those containing psilocybin, and amanita muscarias.

Amanita muscarias are those ones you usually see drawn in children's books. They're legal. But they are not a very enjoyable high and, from what i've heard, mostly just cause nausea and disorientation

What you want is mushrooms that contain psilocybin. There are several species of these and some people contend that different strains have distinctly different trips. i personally think that this is just placebo effect, but a lot of the people who disagree with me know way more about shrooms that I do, so i could very well be wrong. If anything i would liken the differences between mushroom types to the idfferences between different strains of weed.

Really though, unless you want to take the time and effort to grow your own, you're basially stuck with whatever type you friendly neighborhood drug dealer has anyway.

Well i know about the psilocybin, i just know that there are a few different types (I don't have erowid up atm, so I can't check). My friendly neighborhood drug dealers are out ;(

massive snowfall in MN ftl ;/

Definitely try ayahuasca for the introspective/painful/amazing/worthwhile trip, especially if you've never done it before. The furthest I've been taken into the realm of complete and total surrender to life/death and timeless bliss was with mushrooms, though.

Smoke DMT. You'll never trip harder unless you are on something else while smoking DMT.

you want introspection get some DOI shit will rocks ur socks best visuals besides dmt and ur clear headed throughout the whole thing had a very diffucult trip but still was clear headed till i passed out from the trauma

DMT and Bromo-dragonfly was the most intense experience of my life.

DOI? what's that?

DOI? what's that?

It's a Psychedelic Phenethylamine (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/doi/) That's an RC in other words, I've never done it specifically but it is a strong, long lasting hallucinogen that is extremely rare.

Unless your willing to spend many weeks scouring the interwebs for a source, or have some crazy RC dealer in your area, don't get your hopes up.

More information can be found here: http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal067.shtml

Make sure you have the house to your self, get about 7grams or more of good shrooms, then take them in a pitch black room, with your favourite music playing.

These type of experiences are always so intense that I demolish everything I know about my self and rip through what I thought 'I' was. You'll often realize you're not living a life you should, you'll envisage what you should be doing with your self and you'll probably get a little freaked out. But in the morning you'll feel like a million dollars and know where to start changing your behavior.

Basically: Epic dose of mushrooms + a dark room + some music = you pulling your self apart to the most basic aspects of your personality then reconstructing your self. I don't think that made any sense :(

Not sure if I could handle 7 grams =O

Plus cost is a bit of an issue, heh.

Something realistic I suppose.

It's strange, the people see have taken drugs to get fucked up always seem to think they can find enlightenment from hallucinogenic drugs. This is not wrong, that's not what I'm trying to say. When you look at it from a different perspective it's quite funny the way people perceive drugs.

Yeah, well. I'd like to find SOME positive within the drug world- everything i've done up until this point has been nothing but self-destructive as far as i'm concerned, lol

Yeah, well. I'd like to find SOME positive within the drug world- everything i've done up until this point has been nothing but self-destructive as far as i'm concerned, lol

Well have you tryed LSD yet?

Not sure if I could handle 7 grams =O

Plus cost is a bit of an issue, heh.

Something realistic I suppose.

Mushrooms are the cheapest drug around. They only take a few days to grow, and are every where.

Mushrooms are the cheapest drug around. They only take a few days to grow, and are every where.

Well where I live there is a foot of snow outside and I don't know anyone (just moved here; moving back to the city in a few months).

Well where I live there is a foot of snow outside and I don't know anyone (just moved here; moving back to the city in a few months).

Grow inside. Buy spores off the internet, they're legal.

Where in Minnesota are you , if you don't mind saying? I live in Fargo, ND.

Grow inside. Buy spores off the internet, they're legal.

Where in Minnesota are you , if you don't mind saying? I live in Fargo, ND.

At the moment down in Winona, but I'm moving back up to the cities (stpaul) in may.

i'm originally from detroit, in which case I would have none of these issues- but at the same time, i would still be doing coke and/or oxies on the daily.