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Old 2008-12-09, 03:25
JohnBrown JohnBrown is offline
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Default regarding suboxone and od-ing

so i've never tried suboxone before but I just got one of the eight miligram hexagonal ones. I am wondering what Is an appropriate dose to get a feel for this drug, not get completely nodded out, but just to get high?
also, I have taken two miligrams of klonopin today, and was wondering if thats a really bad combo to mix?
I'm interested in suboxone, but have never used it so i would appreciate some input as to if I should even fuck with this shit, and If I should, at what dosage and ROA?
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Old 2008-12-09, 03:50
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Based on my personal experience (there's a thread down there somewhere) I would take 2 mg.
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Old 2008-12-09, 04:07
Aces N 8S Aces N 8S is offline
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Figuring out proper dosing requires that we know your sex, weight, and opiate tolerance.
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Old 2008-12-09, 04:08
Minority Deport Minority Deport is offline
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2mg is a good amount. Let it dissolve under your tongue, when it's done keep it under for a few minutes more. Do not swallow your spit after its dissolved. It will lead to throwing up almost exactly 2 hours later.

It's funny how you can't hold water or food down. Youll feel completely fine, have a drink and then throw it up 2 minutes later. It sucks though.

I like doing it as i shower in the AM because the onset takes a while. Plateau is about 2 hours. I feel it pretty much the entire day.
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Old 2008-12-09, 04:40
JohnBrown JohnBrown is offline
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Default Re: regarding suboxone and od-ing

I weigh 132, and am an 18 yr old male. I'm just afraid that the 2 mgs that i'm taking will be too much with the klonopin and i'll od or something?
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Old 2008-12-09, 04:43
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Connecticut
Default Re: regarding suboxone and od-ing

start in 1mg incriments, an OD on bupe is a long drawn out uncomfortable next 24 hours...
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Old 2008-12-09, 04:44
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2mg will be fine.

A friend of mine did a full 8mg sub w\ NO tolerance, total opiate virgin. He puked for a full two days.

So, needless tosay, although it may not be pleasant, ODing on bupe takes alot of skill.
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Old 2008-12-09, 04:44
JohnBrown JohnBrown is offline
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Default Re: regarding suboxone and od-ing

should I just cut the tablet into 4ths and snort a fourth or what?
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Old 2008-12-09, 04:47
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Originally Posted by JohnBrown
should I just cut the tablet into 4ths and snort a fourth or what?


You've got the idea.

Maybe if you want to be extra safe, cut it into fourths, and then grind up one of the fourths to a bloody pulp. If you wanna play it extra cautious, only do like 3\4 of that in a line, and do the other 1\4 15 minutes later.

It's not dangerous no matter what. I just don't wanna see you getting nauseas.
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Old 2008-12-09, 05:26
JohnBrown JohnBrown is offline
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Default Re: regarding suboxone and od-ing

thanks for everything guys, I haven't tried it yet but i'm still concerned before I do it, about the klonopin that I have taken today, and i don't want that shit mixing and me over dosing because I know how strong subs are.
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Old 2008-12-09, 05:47
JohnBrown JohnBrown is offline
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Default Re: regarding suboxone and od-ing

anyone? i've ingested a total of two miligrams of klonopin throughout the day and just took my final .5 is it okay to try like 1mg of the sub? how long does it take to feel it if I snort a little bit of this fucker?
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Old 2008-12-09, 06:04
JohnBrown JohnBrown is offline
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honestly anyone ?
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Old 2008-12-09, 06:37
JohnBrown JohnBrown is offline
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Default Re: regarding suboxone and od-ing

anybody here? Is it okay to do a little bit along with that clonazepam that I had taken earlier on?
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Old 2008-12-09, 12:48
Aces N 8S Aces N 8S is offline
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Default Re: regarding suboxone and od-ing

If you snort it you'll feel it fully in about 15 minutes or so.

Its probably safe to take with the klonopin in your system, but if you can I would just wait until its cleared out of you. Mixing benzos and opiates has killed many BLTCers, and if you're not experienced with opiates I woldnt reccomend it.

Better safe than sorry, right?
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Old 2008-12-09, 14:16
beergoggles beergoggles is offline
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Take the 2mgs under your tongue. Don't swallow your spit.

I take 16mgs of suboxone a day along with 2mg of Ativan and the occasional xanax bar and I'm just fine.

..and no.. suboxone does not provide that enjoyable of a high so don't get your hopes up.

Edit: If people start abusing suboxone and it makes it harder to get my script I'm going to be pissed off. Take home opiates for maintenance is a privilege, and I don't want people fucking it up. Suboxone gave me my damn life back and is allowing me to go back to school and actually save up some money. I don't know what I'd do without it.
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Old 2008-12-09, 16:05
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No don't put it under your tongue. John Brown, I answered your question last night:

Snort 2mg!

I don't care how much clonazepam is in your system! Bupe is only a partial agonist, you're gonna have a hard time ODing on that shit.

And YES, you must snort it, because IME sublingual isn't as efficient.
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Old 2008-12-09, 16:11
Bean_Doodle Bean_Doodle is offline
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Why not swallow the spit?

Aren't the pills meant to go in your stomach?
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Old 2008-12-09, 16:54
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Originally Posted by JohnBrown
I weigh 132, and am an 18 yr old male. I'm just afraid that the 2 mgs that i'm taking will be too much with the klonopin and i'll od or something?


Wait.. hold up. I took two mg when i was a college freshman and threw up three times.. 135 lb male. If you've got 8mg, you might as well start small. wait for it to kick in, don't just up your dose right away. I started with 1 mg (half of the tiny orange octagon one) and after 30 minutes was like, "well.. seriously, 1mg? Fuck this, I'm going to take it all"

that was a mistake.
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Old 2008-12-09, 16:59
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Connecticut
Default Re: regarding suboxone and od-ing

And YES, you must snort it, because IME sublingual isn't as efficient.

this too...
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Old 2008-12-09, 20:03
beergoggles beergoggles is offline
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Why not swallow the spit?

Aren't the pills meant to go in your stomach?


No. Buprenorphine isn't absorbed well in the stomach. It's a sublingual medication which means you dissolve it under your tongue and it's absorbed under your tongue.
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Old 2008-12-09, 20:42
fretbuzz fretbuzz is offline
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Default Re: regarding suboxone and od-ing

You've got the idea.

Maybe if you want to be extra safe, cut it into fourths, and then grind up one of the fourths to a bloody pulp. If you wanna play it extra cautious, only do like 3\4 of that in a line, and do the other 1\4 15 minutes later.

It's not dangerous no matter what. I just don't wanna see you getting nauseas.

Humanity? On totse? Good god...
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Old 2008-12-09, 21:58
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benzos and suboxone shouldnt be mixed.

if ur not a fat ass like most people on this forum with 2mg ur prolly gonna get sick.

suboxone also sucks a big one unless ur using it for its purpose under doctors directions.
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Old 2008-12-10, 03:09
556 556 is offline
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Default Re: regarding suboxone and od-ing

you cant get high off suboxone. (waits for angry asswipes to attempt to dispute this fact..)
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Old 2008-12-10, 03:14
penguinjam penguinjam is offline
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Originally Posted by 556
you cant get high off suboxone. (waits for angry asswipes to attempt to dispute this fact..)


I'm an angry asswipe and I'm going to dispute that fact.

*disputes fact*
 
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