DRM (Digital Restrictions Management) and Mac's

Apple hardware, some/most software and devices have DRM inside or embedded in the hardware on a chip and/or in the operating system of the OS/device OS.

Free software foundation is disgraced because of the restrictions put upon us.

If you'd like, you could suggest nick names for the mac, ipod/nano/classic/shuffle/touch, iphone/3g, itunes and/or any apple software that deserves a crude, silly, stupid and hilarious name.

Is this about "you can't connect your new Macbook to certain TV's" or some shit like that?
Or is it the "iTunes still sells music with DRM attached to it" issue?

I don't use iTunes to "acquire" my music & I don't connect my Macbook to my television.

So I really DON'T GIVE A FUCK!

Peace.

[SLice_760]

http:../../www.youtube.com/watch@v=eznvrljjtpm

DENNAL PLAN!

Also stop spamming the M$ and Mac forums with open source propaganda. The people of these forums do not take kindly to these shenanigans.

I do enjoy my open source, however.

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Originally Posted by SLice_760

http:../../www.youtube.com/watch@v=eznvrljjtpm

DENNAL PLAN!

Also stop spamming the M$ and Mac forums with open source propaganda. The people of these forums do not take kindly to these shenanigans.

I do enjoy my open source, however.

This has nothing to do with open source. This is a free software issue.

Originally Posted by The Doc

Is this about "you can't connect your new Macbook to certain TV's" or some shit like that?
Or is it the "iTunes still sells music with DRM attached to it" issue?

I don't use iTunes to "acquire" my music & I don't connect my Macbook to my television.

So I really DON'T GIVE A FUCK!

Peace.

If you don't buy stuff from iTunes and you aren't limited by the treacherous computing, then great. But you're still supporting treacherous computing and digital restrictions management just by buying apple, and while you might not be impacted by it, a lot of other Apple users are.

The fact is, your computer is not controlled by you. It is controlled by Apple. If you buy music from iTunes, your music is controlled by Apple. And if you try to use your Mac for media, you will be controlled not only by Apple, but by any software developer that decides to say "You can't play this on a TV that I don't like".

The fact that you are not impacted by these injustices does not make them any less unjust. Maybe you've come onto the Apple scene recently, and don't remember what it used to be like, but I can remember very clearly the days of rip/mix/burn, and we've come a long way from that.

Originally Posted by Prometheum

If you don't buy stuff from iTunes and you aren't limited by the treacherous computing, then great. But you're still supporting treacherous computing and digital restrictions management just by buying apple, and while you might not be impacted by it, a lot of other Apple users are.

The fact is, your computer is not controlled by you. It is controlled by Apple. If you buy music from iTunes, your music is controlled by Apple. And if you try to use your Mac for media, you will be controlled not only by Apple, but by any software developer that decides to say "You can't play this on a TV that I don't like".

The fact that you are not impacted by these injustices does not make them any less unjust. Maybe you've come onto the Apple scene recently, and don't remember what it used to be like, but I can remember very clearly the days of rip/mix/burn, and we've come a long way from that.

God, that sounds like some hippy bullshit.
Sorry.

Yes, iTunes and Quicktime restrict you in what and how you watch your Apple-downloaded material.
But you make it sound as though Macs restrict you right out of the box.

Don't want DRM? Don't buy shit from the iTunes Music Store. Simple.
Get your Audio and Video from Gnutella and BitTorrent like the rest of us.

I use iTunes for nothing but Audio management and playback.
Video I use Quicktime Player or VLC.

So you remember the old days of "Rip/Mix/Burn" huh?
I remember the days of the Apple IIe, monochrome monitors, floppy disks and Apple Basic.

[Angry Blue Bird of Death]

Yes, I own an 80gb iPod Classic and use freeware alternatives to Apple's iTunes (which is awful software) and get all the music from P2P and One-click hosting.

I personally will not be buying anything from Apple ever again.

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Originally Posted by The Doc

God, that sounds like some hippy bullshit.
Sorry.

Your statements sound like apologist bullshit. You lose NOTHING by acknowledging this as a problem and speaking out against it, but you don't. Why?

Originally Posted by The Doc

Yes, iTunes and Quicktime restrict you in what and how you watch your Apple-downloaded material.
But you make it sound as though Macs restrict you right out of the box.

As far as I know iTunes and Quicktime are installed "out of the box"...

Originally Posted by The Doc

Don't want DRM? Don't buy shit from the iTunes Music Store. Simple.
Get your Audio and Video from Gnutella and BitTorrent like the rest of us.

...Until Apple decides to break those programs from the parts of the OS it controls, and stops users from changing that though Digital Restrictions Management and Treacherous Computing.

Originally Posted by The Doc

I use iTunes for nothing but Audio management and playback.
Video I use Quicktime Player or VLC.

And now, those programs let you play files that are free. It won't be like that forever. What happens when Apple forbids any program except a "Trusted" one from using the sound card, or outputting to a monitor?

So you remember the old days of "Rip/Mix/Burn" huh?
I remember the days of the Apple IIe, monochrome monitors, floppy disks and Apple Basic.[/quote]

Then why have you just sat back and watched Apple fuck you in the ass?

Originally Posted by RootAnon

Digital Rights Management

Fixed

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Originally Posted by MeTaL1364

Fixed

Because when you buy something it's never actually yours.

Like that couch I got. I can give two other people passes to sit on it. If anyone else sits on it, it'll burst into spikes. And, in a few years, when the company dies, it'll just disappear.

But you know. That's their right. It doesn't matter that they restrict me, even though I bought the couch, because, you know, if everyone just let anyone sit on their couch, who would buy a couch?

Originally Posted by Prometheum

Because when you buy something it's never actually yours.

Like that couch I got. I can give two other people passes to sit on it. If anyone else sits on it, it'll burst into spikes. And, in a few years, when the company dies, it'll just disappear.

But you know. That's their right. It doesn't matter that they restrict me, even though I bought the couch, because, you know, if everyone just let anyone sit on their couch, who would buy a couch?

i can see where your coming from ...but i merely meant that the acronym DRM refers to digital rights management

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Originally Posted by MeTaL1364

i can see where your coming from ...but i merely meant that the acronym DRM refers to digital rights management

No it doesn't. It refers to Digital Restrictions Management.

Which one of us is more right? The one with truth on his side, or the one with the RIAA marketing department on his side?

Just don't buy crappy Apple shit. What's unfortunate is that their DRM nonsense and shitty ass hardware thrives off of the stupidity of their customers, who the majority are not computer literate and therefore easy targets. I refuse to buy their utter garbage ever again.

If you're smart enough to avoid Apple, then by all means do so. The fewer people who contribute to them, the better things will be. But they will always thrive off of their huge clientele of stupid people. Let the stupids be taken advantage of. The rest of us can use Linux and be free of having the big DRM dick shoved up our assholes.