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 #1 
Old 2008-12-08, 05:40
PhatMonkey PhatMonkey is offline
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Would anyone know an estimate of how much it will cost to fix my car? I crashed into a pole and it hit the rear left hand door & wheel.

The only damage I can see is, the door needs replacing and the piece of metal that the suspension spring joins onto is snapped. Also I will need a new airbag and sensors. I had a guy look at it and he said around $6000! Which I don't think is right. But I am waiting on a proper estimate.

The car is a 2001 VX Holden commodore
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Old 2008-12-08, 06:22
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Originally Posted by PhatMonkey
Would anyone know an estimate of how much it will cost to fix my car? I crashed into a pole and it hit the rear left hand door & wheel.

The only damage I can see is, the door needs replacing and the piece of metal that the suspension spring joins onto is snapped. Also I will need a new airbag and sensors. I had a guy look at it and he said around $6000! Which I don't think is right. But I am waiting on a proper estimate.

The car is a 2001 VX Holden commodore


If the chassis itself gets distorted, things can get pricey fast.

Post some pictures please.
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Old 2008-12-08, 06:43
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Nereth is right. a Simple distortion or crack in the chassis can easily turn a thousand dollar job into a four thousand dollar job.

I'm from the states, so I'm not sure how much maintinence on Holden is, I have to be honest.
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Old 2008-12-08, 07:09
koz_1048 koz_1048 is offline
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Thats why one should always have insurance. :)

Repairs are always expensive. Any structural dammage would cost ALOT! Most insurance companies would write a car off if there is even slight chassis dammage.

Get us some pics. Get different quotes, when I was rearended in my 300ZX, the first quote I got was over 7500. I ended up paying less than 2500 and it was better than ever.
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Old 2008-12-08, 07:10
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You have a 300ZX?

Specs?
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Old 2008-12-08, 07:15
Mr Smith Mr Smith is offline
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Default Re: How much damage? $$

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Originally Posted by PhatMonkey
Would anyone know an estimate of how much it will cost to fix my car? I crashed into a pole and it hit the rear left hand door & wheel.

The only damage I can see is, the door needs replacing and the piece of metal that the suspension spring joins onto is snapped. Also I will need a new airbag and sensors. I had a guy look at it and he said around $6000! Which I don't think is right. But I am waiting on a proper estimate.

The car is a 2001 VX Holden commodore


You did the suspension tower?

$6k sounds pretty good to me, if that is the case.
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Old 2008-12-08, 08:17
koz_1048 koz_1048 is offline
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You have a 300ZX?

Specs?

Had. Z32 '89 TT t-top. Great car, best I have ever driven.

I was getting maybe 250km to a tank (compared to the 700ish I get in my current lexus). Just could not afford to keep it. Suddenly insurance also jumped from 600 in 2005 to 1800 in 2006. It's a bloody joke. Not to mention everything breaking off day by day.

If I had 15k today, cash, without doubt I would have one. Buy one in which-ever condition you can for 5-8, spend the rest doing a total overhaul of the engine, transmission and interior and maybe one could get somewhere. But if you can't invest that much, it'll just be a pain and keep dragging you down.
Also, if you are in the market, watch out alot of the "manual" TTs out there are auto-conversions. Thats a bad idea. I have yet to see a decent conversion done, most will not start anywhere but neutral. The engine is detuned and the turbos are different.

Still a great car though. Easily outclasses the GTO/3000GT and Skylines in terms of handling. Probably the cheapest car out there to get HP out of per $. Massive potential.
Or, if you are that way inclined, LS1 conversion. The engines weigh nearly the same (the LS1 is slightly lighter i believe). So it will not hurt the balance of the car. But where's the joy in that? :)
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Old 2008-12-08, 09:38
MrFishHat MrFishHat is offline
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You have a 300ZX?

Specs?

I do, Its an 86T with some minor modifications. And as much as people think of it as the red headed stepchild of the Z line He refuses to listen.
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Old 2008-12-08, 09:53
PhatMonkey PhatMonkey is offline
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Grrrr, can't find my camera charger to take photos, but will keep looking :)

I attempted to draw it in paint lol. If anyone can understand it...
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/2eabc684f2.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

I don't think it's the suspension tower, just the thing that joins onto it. Also how much are airbag sensors and airbags, can you pick them up cheap from junkjards? I saw a door on ebay for $150.

So if I can get all the sensors and the new door for about $500(?), I will have about $1000 - 1500 to spend on that other thing (My budget is about $1500 - 2000)

If anyone can help me get an estimate, I will be extremely grateful as I still owe $15,000 to the bank for this car ( No insurance :( ). I really hope it isn't more than 2 grand to fix.

Ill try and get some photos up, and please note (If you already haven't), I don't know much about cars :)
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Old 2008-12-08, 10:30
Mr Smith Mr Smith is offline
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is the car auto or manual? V6 or V8?
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Old 2008-12-08, 10:39
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Didn't you have insurance dude? Confused
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Old 2008-12-08, 11:05
PhatMonkey PhatMonkey is offline
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It's a v6 auto. No insurance :( pissed
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Old 2008-12-08, 11:20
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It's a v6 auto. No insurance :( pissed

Wow! they're hard over there.
Its usually the turbo's that have hassles with insurance here...not the V6.Confused
Sorry bout your car dude. :(
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Old 2008-12-08, 13:21
PhatMonkey PhatMonkey is offline
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I'm pissed because I canceled the insurance ($1000, for the year)- I needed to pay rent because I lost my job and i'm a poor cunt lol :)
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Old 2008-12-08, 20:03
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I'm pissed because I canceled the insurance ($1000, for the year)- I needed to pay rent because I lost my job and i'm a poor cunt lol :)

Believe me, I know the shit your going through. (the broke bit) ;)
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Old 2008-12-09, 08:16
Mr Smith Mr Smith is offline
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you paid 15k plus for a VX V6 auto?

Man that's about twice as much as they are worth...
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Old 2008-12-09, 09:11
PhatMonkey PhatMonkey is offline
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I paid 14.5k for it, at that time they were going for about 12-13k. But I wanted this exact one (The colour, the body kit), which I had been looking for, for ages. Also I suck at ....shit what's the word....haggling(?)
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Old 2008-12-09, 09:18
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Airbags and door would only be maybe $1000....

If the chassis is fucked, buy a new car :)

Err....from that fucked up drawing are you saying the steering rod/whatever it's called now is broken? It's usually just 2 bolts, undo them, put the new 1 in and tighten to specs.

On second(third) thought, you have to undo the tie rod ends from the steering bit to get the steering rod/w.e out.

It's a simple enough procedure, just dont lose the nuts/bolts/washers/split pins.

Would anyone know an estimate of how much it will cost to fix my car? I crashed into a pole and it hit the rear left hand door & wheel.

The only damage I can see is, the door needs replacing and the piece of metal that the suspension spring joins onto is snapped. Also I will need a new airbag and sensors. I had a guy look at it and he said around $6000! Which I don't think is right. But I am waiting on a proper estimate.

The car is a 2001 VX Holden commodore

I saw a guy who had hit a power pole on sunday in a commodore :)

Basically, the pole was on the ground(one of those metal ones), the car was stuck to a second pole on the enbankment bit, and it looked pretty fucked up. The cops were there, but no ambulance so it mustve been recent(~6am).

The motor looked as if it mightve been sticking through the floor, the bonnet was mangled and the front was V shaped :)

Waste of a perfectly good light pole....

If the chassis is damaged your probably better off getting a second hand commodore and either swapping the bodies, or using your one for parts for the new(second hand) one.

And if their offer to sell is $10,000 offer then $9,000 Straight up :)
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Old 2008-12-09, 09:23
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Lol.

2001 commodores use trailing arm suspension, and that bar you are pointing to in the picture is a component of that system, known as the 'trailing arm'.

I.e. it is the chief component.

Holy crap you must have hit that thing haaaaard.

Edit: I should add a 'maybe' qualifier to this diagnosis, since I've just had a look under a commodore, and it's too damn messy for me to be sure.
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Old 2008-12-09, 10:40
frinkmakesyouthink frinkmakesyouthink is offline
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D'oh.

I had to sell one of my cars, and it was a good one, because I didn't have the money to pay the rent. I know what it's like to be broke, it's not nice.

I'd have a half a dozen places give quotes for the suspension. I'm not sure what your picture really describes, it looks like a trailing arm or something...

Do you have any relatives in the motor trade? If they can't do the work



Huh. I meant to post this last night, but there was a power cut, and Firefox managed to save it, so I'm posting it this morning. It's probably out of date now.
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Old 2008-12-12, 03:33
extermin8tor extermin8tor is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhatMonkey
Grrrr, can't find my camera charger to take photos, but will keep looking :)

I attempted to draw it in paint lol. If anyone can understand it...
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/2eabc684f2.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

I don't think it's the suspension tower, just the thing that joins onto it. Also how much are airbag sensors and airbags, can you pick them up cheap from junkjards? I saw a door on ebay for $150.

So if I can get all the sensors and the new door for about $500(?), I will have about $1000 - 1500 to spend on that other thing (My budget is about $1500 - 2000)

If anyone can help me get an estimate, I will be extremely grateful as I still owe $15,000 to the bank for this car ( No insurance :( ). I really hope it isn't more than 2 grand to fix.

Ill try and get some photos up, and please note (If you already haven't), I don't know much about cars :)


what sort of bank gave you a loan without requiring that you insure the car. also how much did you pay for the car, its a commodore not a statesmen right. seems to me like the car is only worth 8-10 odd grand.
 
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